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[Navaratna]

So, essentially I’m postulating that pent up or stored sexual energy can be transferred at will and to the effect of revitalising another self.

I hope i am not hijacking your posts from sharing your experience. I had some realization on the sexual energy recently as well (also in the last couple weeks but nothing too dramatic).

Sexual energy is creative energy. Every human is capable of the creation magic that basically could create anything and everything if the will is strong enough.

There are two requirements for creation magic to happen.

First and most important one is the heart. One must have some access to their heart chakra for the creation magic to work because of the fact that one need the intelligence of the heart for the creation to happen.

The reason is that heart chakra represents "unconditional love" and unconditional love has no logic. Therefore, whatever is created with unconditional love, there wouldn't be a logical offset.

Anything logical comes with dualism. And with dualism, nothing can be created from nothing. If something is created through logical (Brain) intelligence (this is the "secret" method), then whatever created will be offset by a subsequent event.

There are several methods of creation magic. One can search through all the major/minor mystery schools to find one that is most comfortable with and follow it. It has no negative side effects for the simple fact that one would need to gain access to their unconditional love for the creation to work and once one has access to unconditional love, one could never create anything that would be harmful to anyone. To me this is like a failsafe mechanism of the unconditional love for creation.

The second requirement is sexual energy which i personally think should be properly named as creation energy for the simple fact that this is literally the energy that creates.

Creation (Sexual) energy are most commonly used to create short, impermanent physical pleasure. One must be in discipline of one's earthly desire to be able to guide this creation energy to initiate creation.
How? Again, different school has different methods and they all vary slightly from one another though the overall mechanisms are pretty much the same. And of course Buddha has taught the world the simplest way (not the easiest): through meditation practices. Once one practice meditation enough, one will feel the creation energy moving with its own intelligence and initiate the creation. After that, whatever one wishes with open heart and unconditional love, it will happen except for anything that infringes other people's free will, such as making other people falling in love with you (though you can make someone become physically attracted to you).

Even though, this creation magic sounds too good to be true, it's actually one of the most basic thing that an adept can do. One actually doesn't need to be an adept to do this. One just need to have disciplines over one's earthly desire and some access to unconditional love.

For whatever reason, I initiated the creation magic during my regular meditation practice while not knowing what I did. Then within the same month, I accidentally (of course there is no accident) came across all the information that shows different methods of the creation magic. Once i followed every methods and achieve what I have accidentally achieved I realized that I really can do this.

Did i test it ? of course and this is how i tested it.

I downloaded a mobile game where you need to draw "cards" and different cards have different possibilities of being drawn. I did the creation magic with the intention to draw the rarest card (0.3% chance). Got it the first draw which could be luck so i did it again and got the rarest card again. And of course, I did it for the third time and yes i got the same card again. All three times happened within 5 mins. The probability of this happening is 0.3% x 0.3% x 0.3% = 0.027%.

Isn't this fascinating?

So Ashim, I definitely know what happened to you was that you initiated creation magic which transferred your sexual/vital energy to your mom.

Since you have initiated it once, you actually don't need to know any method anymore, you only need to move your creation energy to your heart (whichever method you prefer, there are so many) and with full unconditional love set an intention for what you would like to create and if the will is strong, it will happen. You will know if it was successful or not and the duration of the process also will come to you as you are doing it.

Ps another fascinating thing i found about creation magic is that people who make it a goal to find it and use it can never find the methods nor use it. Interesting eh?

Hopefully this is somehow useful to someone and thank you Ashim for sharing your experience.

I think there are some very far-fetched ideas that the Taoist text Secret of the Golden Flower was getting at which to me seem pretty difficult to achieve. The purpose of celibacy mentioned in the book is to create an immortal aspect of an individuals soul that could travel beyond death by preserving the creative energy.

But it would take many years from what I remember reading--talk about dedication. That book keeps coming across my path. It's not a very long book, translate well. Who really knows. Im just sharing what I read.

Shri Mataji Nirmala founder of Sahaja Yoga does not mention these texts but does mention brahmacharya. John Van Auken who has spent decades at Edgar Cayces A.R.E. mentions it here , and in the end of a book called Pyramid of Fire: The Lost Aztec Codex in which a traveler is bestowed secrets of the Mexican god Quetzalcoatl describes how self-sacrifice of a humans Earthly desires is what is needed to be illuminated by the Sun lord Tonatiuh. To shed the false being of the ego. This book mention the Secret of the Golden Flower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFYP4xeYy9Q

It all sounds very...lame. But then again, it is all just my preference of what reality is.

who knows?

[Scah]

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[Navaratna]

I think there are some very far-fetched ideas that the Taoist text Secret of the Golden Flower was getting at which to me seem pretty difficult to achieve. The purpose of celibacy mentioned in the book is to create an immortal aspect of an individuals soul that could travel beyond death by preserving the creative energy.

But it would take many years from what I remember reading--talk about dedication. That book keeps coming across my path. It's not a very long book, translate well. Who really knows. Im just sharing what I read.

Shri Mataji Nirmala founder of Sahaja Yoga does not mention these texts but does mention brahmacharya. John Van Auken who has spent decades at Edgar Cayces A.R.E. mentions it here , and in the end of a book called Pyramid of Fire: The Lost Aztec Codex in which a traveler is bestowed secrets of the Mexican god Quetzalcoatl describes how self-sacrifice of a humans Earthly desires is what is needed to be illuminated by the Sun lord Tonatiuh. To shed the false being of the ego. This book mention the Secret of the Golden Flower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFYP4xeYy9Q

It all sounds very...lame. But then again, it is all just my preference of what reality is.

who knows?

I have been reading your posts. I would like to share the one teaching from Buddha that I love the most "na kvacit pratiṣṭhitaṃ cittam utpādayitavyam" which roughly translates to "any mind (citta)that is fixed should not be raised." or my own translation: "Grow your heart (compassion) through removal of fixations".

As for the secret of the Golden Flower, like most of Taoism scriptures, it's just another iteration of Tao Te Ching. Tao Te Ching will benefit people way more than any other Taoism scripture in my opinion.

I thought it was curious how the Tao Te Ching is divided in to 81 chapters/sections. I didn't mention it in my other topics because the point isn't numerology it's to visualize densities like they're checkerboards stacked on each other but climbing up. 81 being 9th density [9x9] 81 octave

I'll mention the 10 masters in no order:
Lao tzu is mentioned as one of the 10 Primordial spiritual masters, and as the author of Tao Te Ching
Confucius taught I Ching
Zoroaster introduced fire divination [pyromancy]
Moses introduced hydromancy [bent the Red Sea] and founded Jewish law
Want to frustrate a Christian and show them a backwards contradiction in the Bible?
If the serpent is the devil why did Moses erect an idol to one in the shape of Caduceus and burn incense to it for good fortune?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehushtan

Abraham is father of the 12 tribes of Israel
Guru Nanak founded Sikhism, incarnating to put a halt to the Islamic invasion of India
Socrates founded Greek philosophy, inventing democracy as we know it
Shirdi Sai Baba, Islamic astrologer who prophesied the birth of Shri mataji. I remember I showed her birth chart to an astrologer and they said 'Well you can see just from looking at it that she has a very balanced and diplomatic personality. I bet she passed away in her home"
I showed the chart to that person without saying a word about who it was, and it was odd to me. She married the Indian diplomat to Britain. She passed away in her home in Italy in 2011 one year before 2012.

Raja Janaka...eh I wish even I knew what the lore around him was. Some Hindu king. There's stuff on google but it's like there's only so much translated in to English from the history written in ancient Indian texts

Muhammad founder of Islam. Which may annoy some, but consider the 7 day journey between mecca and medina and the true meaning of Lataif-e-sitta is kundalini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lataif-e-sitta

There's dispute over the meaning, but I'll give you a bit of context. Ruh is mentioned in Lataif-e-sitta often in Shri Mataji's talks. It is the cool breeze on the palms when a person clears their negativity completely. I've felt it before and I think the most I ever felt it was when I was holding a piece of very clear terminated quartz with green tourmaline inclusions.

Lataif-e-sitta is the Persian and Middle Eastern kundalini.

Theres videos on youtube of Shri Mataji visiting the Sufi mausoleum/shrine of Nizamuddin in India. They are the sect that would be most likely to know of the secrets of lataif-e-sitta.

[Scah]

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[Ashim]

I’m honestly totally happy. I’ll get back to some replies to your comments soon. This is great. Thanks for giving me some essential breathing room. Wow. I’m overwhelmed with joy.

Just a little tip at this point. I have found that humorous dialogue is a key component to any form of healing . As I engage my mother in jovial banter I can observe in real time the effect of harmony.

[sillypumpkins]

I have found that humorous dialogue is a key component to any form of healing

Laughter is the best medicine

[Ashim]

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So, essentially I’m postulating that pent up or stored sexual energy can be transferred at will and to the effect of revitalising another self.

L

There are two requirements for creation magic to happen.

First and most important one is the heart. One must have some access to their heart chakra for the creation magic to work because of the fact that one need the intelligence of the heart for the creation to happen.

The reason is that heart chakra represents "unconditional love" and unconditional love has no logic. Therefore, whatever is created with unconditional love, there wouldn't be a logical offset.

Anything logical comes with dualism. And with dualism, nothing can be created from nothing. If something is created through logical (Brain) intelligence (this is the "secret" method), then whatever created will be offset by a subsequent event.

There are several methods of creation magic. One can search through all the s to their lsafe mechanism of the unconditional love for
How? Again, different school has different methods and they all vary slightly from one another though the overall mechanisms are pretty much the same. And of course Buddha has taught the world the simplest way (not the easiest): through meditation practices. Once one practice meditation enough, one will feel the creation energy moving with its own intelligence and initiate the creation. After that, whatever one wishes with open heart and unconditional love, it will happen except for anything that infringes other people's free will, such as making other people falling in love with you (though you can make someone become physically attracted to you).

Even though, this creation magic sounds too good to be true, it's actually one of the most basic thing that an adept can do. One actually doesn't need to be an adept to do this. One just need to have disciplines over one's earthly desire and some access to unconditional love.

For whatever reason, I initiated the creation magic during my regular meditation practice while not knowing what I did. Then within the same month, I accidentally (of course there is no accident) came across all the information that shows different methods of the creation magic. Once i followed every methods and achieve what I have accidentally achieved I realized that I really can do this.

Did i test it ? of course and this is how i tested it.

I downloaded a mobile game where you need to draw "cards" and different cards have different possibilities of being drawn. I did the creation magic with the intention to draw the rarest card (0.3% chance). Got it the first draw which could be luck so i did it again and got the rarest card again. And of course, I did it for the third time and yes i got the same card again. All three times happened within 5 mins. The probability of this happening is 0.3% x 0.3% x 0.3% = 0.027%.

Isn't this fascinating?

So Ashim, I definitely know what happened to you was that you initiated creation magic which transferred your sexual/vital energy to your mom.

Since you have initiated it once, you actually don't need to know any method anymore, you only need to move your creation energy to your heart (whichever method you prefer, there are so many) and with full unconditional love set an intention for what you would like to create and if the will is strong, it will happen. You will know if it was successful or not and the duration of the process also will come to you as you are doing it.

Ps another fascinating thing i found about creation magic is that people who make it a goal to find it and use it can never find the methods nor use it. Interesting eh?

Hopefully this is somehow useful to someone and thank you Ashim for sharing your experience.

I think there are some very far-fetched ideas that the Taoist text Secret of the Golden Flower was getting at which to me seem pretty difficult to achieve. The purpose of celibacy mentioned in the book is to create an immortal aspect of an individuals soul that could travel beyond death by preserving the creative energy.

But it would take many years from what I remember reading--talk about dedication. That book keeps coming across my path. It's not a very long book, translate well. Who really knows. Im just sharing what I read.

Shri Mataji Nirmala founder of Sahaja Yoga does not mention these texts but does mention brahmacharya. John Van Auken who has spent decades at Edgar Cayces A.R.E. mentions it here , and in the end of a book called Pyramid of Fire: The Lost Aztec Codex in which a traveler is bestowed secrets of the Mexican god Quetzalcoatl describes how self-sacrifice of a humans Earthly desires is what is needed to be illuminated by the Sun lord Tonatiuh. To shed the false being of the ego. This book mention the Secret of the Golden Flower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFYP4xeYy9Q

It all sounds very...lame. But then again, it is all just my preference of what reality is.

who knows?
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Thanks for those deliberations . Very enlightening . So a deed initiated by truly selfless motives will always be reciprocated . I’ve been watching the subtleties with awe and wonder . Think of the implications if we are able to grasp and channel this creative energy.

[Navaratna]

So, essentially I’m postulating that pent up or stored sexual energy can be transferred at will and to the effect of revitalising another self.

L

There are two requirements for creation magic to happen.

First and most important one is the heart. One must have some access to their heart chakra for the creation magic to work because of the fact that one need the intelligence of the heart for the creation to happen.

The reason is that heart chakra represents "unconditional love" and unconditional love has no logic. Therefore, whatever is created with unconditional love, there wouldn't be a logical offset.

Anything logical comes with dualism. And with dualism, nothing can be created from nothing. If something is created through logical (Brain) intelligence (this is the "secret" method), then whatever created will be offset by a subsequent event.

There are several methods of creation magic. One can search through all the s to their lsafe mechanism of the unconditional love for
How? Again, different school has different methods and they all vary slightly from one another though the overall mechanisms are pretty much the same. And of course Buddha has taught the world the simplest way (not the easiest): through meditation practices. Once one practice meditation enough, one will feel the creation energy moving with its own intelligence and initiate the creation. After that, whatever one wishes with open heart and unconditional love, it will happen except for anything that infringes other people's free will, such as making other people falling in love with you (though you can make someone become physically attracted to you).

Even though, this creation magic sounds too good to be true, it's actually one of the most basic thing that an adept can do. One actually doesn't need to be an adept to do this. One just need to have disciplines over one's earthly desire and some access to unconditional love.

For whatever reason, I initiated the creation magic during my regular meditation practice while not knowing what I did. Then within the same month, I accidentally (of course there is no accident) came across all the information that shows different methods of the creation magic. Once i followed every methods and achieve what I have accidentally achieved I realized that I really can do this.

Did i test it ? of course and this is how i tested it.

I downloaded a mobile game where you need to draw "cards" and different cards have different possibilities of being drawn. I did the creation magic with the intention to draw the rarest card (0.3% chance). Got it the first draw which could be luck so i did it again and got the rarest card again. And of course, I did it for the third time and yes i got the same card again. All three times happened within 5 mins. The probability of this happening is 0.3% x 0.3% x 0.3% = 0.027%.

Isn't this fascinating?

So Ashim, I definitely know what happened to you was that you initiated creation magic which transferred your sexual/vital energy to your mom.

Since you have initiated it once, you actually don't need to know any method anymore, you only need to move your creation energy to your heart (whichever method you prefer, there are so many) and with full unconditional love set an intention for what you would like to create and if the will is strong, it will happen. You will know if it was successful or not and the duration of the process also will come to you as you are doing it.

Ps another fascinating thing i found about creation magic is that people who make it a goal to find it and use it can never find the methods nor use it. Interesting eh?

Hopefully this is somehow useful to someone and thank you Ashim for sharing your experience.

I think there are some very far-fetched ideas that the Taoist text Secret of the Golden Flower was getting at which to me seem pretty difficult to achieve. The purpose of celibacy mentioned in the book is to create an immortal aspect of an individuals soul that could travel beyond death by preserving the creative energy.

But it would take many years from what I remember reading--talk about dedication. That book keeps coming across my path. It's not a very long book, translate well. Who really knows. Im just sharing what I read.

Shri Mataji Nirmala founder of Sahaja Yoga does not mention these texts but does mention brahmacharya. John Van Auken who has spent decades at Edgar Cayces A.R.E. mentions it here , and in the end of a book called Pyramid of Fire: The Lost Aztec Codex in which a traveler is bestowed secrets of the Mexican god Quetzalcoatl describes how self-sacrifice of a humans Earthly desires is what is needed to be illuminated by the Sun lord Tonatiuh. To shed the false being of the ego. This book mention the Secret of the Golden Flower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFYP4xeYy9Q

It all sounds very...lame. But then again, it is all just my preference of what reality is.

who knows?
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Thanks for those deliberations . Very enlightening . So a deed initiated by truly selfless motives will always be reciprocated . I’ve been watching the subtleties with awe and wonder . Think of the implications if we are able to grasp and channel this creative energy.

As much as people don't like these ideas, there are reasons why Jains, Tibetan Buddhists. Monks in other part of the world do the same thing, a quick google will show you pages and pages of the celibacy of Quetzalcoatl in legend and practice.

Warning: somewhat inappropriate poetic text about male anatomy is referenced. If you are offended by this don't read it.

It sounds unsatisfying, and repressive but it is a choice people made, not something forced on them. How ironic that not lusting is actually way less difficult than chasing considering the amount of effort you'd need to put in to it. Literally achieving the secret of the golden flower would mean lowering your activity to nothing LOL. achieving more strength in consciousness by limiting your output of energy.

The book the Aztec Codex describes this as self-sacrifice to liberate the occult energy of the heart. along the lines I remember it went something like "the serpent, turns its life power upon itself-- preventing the snake from spitting it's cruel venom and turning it in--so that the serpent of consciousness will be two headed. In each mans seed lies his own Quetzalcoatl"

https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/ask-...ed-serpent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_serpent

I remember reading about double headed serpents were symbols of maya royalty in David Freidels book Forest of Kings

Heart sacrifice is mentioned in the Pyramid of fire book as a heretical twist on these powers of the heart. "Sacrifice the ego, liberate the heart" degenerated in to shadowy people sacrificing hearts in the pursuit of power-- intimidating enemies in rival territories with violence.

[Spaced]

Lately I've been undergoing a reorganization of my approach to reality and spirituality. A lot of concepts that I've understood intellectually for a while I'm now starting to understand experientially.

In 2011-2012 I had a sort of personal awakening but it was all very intellectual aside from a few profound experiences. Since then my life has gotten very mundane to the point that I've wondered if I got off track somewhere. I've been through a few "dark night of the soul" experiences including an especially heavy one over the past winter. I lost interest in a lot of things, felt as though my 'spark' had dimmed. 

I decided to try taking a large dose of mushrooms to try to 'force the hand of chance' and have a spiritual experience. I've never been one for taking psychedelics as part of my spiritual path, but other people always sing their praises so I thought I would give it a shot. I found it deeply disappointing. When it started to peak and my perception of reality was being pulled apart seam by seam the first thought that popped into my head was "not this s*** again." It all felt so familiar and that familiarity was tinged with a strong feeling of sorrow. I was shown scenes of addiction, sexual predation, black magic, death and shame. I felt the weight of these things, how they weigh down the soul, and how our souls and the soul of the planet are just full of this filth. Even if we aren't engaging in these acts we are often watching or hearing stories about these things. The word that kept popping into my head was mayavi, sanskrit for illusion (or magic), the mushroom and the things I was seeing and experiencing through it were illusion too, even the desire for a spiritual experience was just another illusion. The whole thing left me feeling a bit dejected.

Looking back I believe what I experienced aligns with the nigredo or black stage of alchemy. I don't think the mushroom was necessary, as it didn't tell me anything new, but it did force me to sit through it without being able to turn away. Advanced meditation practices can achieve the same thing.

The lesson I got from the experience was that I need to detach somewhat and think about what is real and what is important. I think I understand somewhat better what Ra meant when they refer to things as transient or distortions. It seems to me that a lot of spiritual or magical practice only serves to embed people further in illusion rather than to free them from it. Our minds are full of psychic baggage that just weighs us down and it's not even real and isn't even ours.

The whole self-isolation thing has been helpful for me, giving me the time and space to explore these concepts and boil down my spiritual practice to what's really important and I've found it's the following:

1. Don't get too attached to things, people, ideas.
2. Find a way to be of service.
3. Feel the love in the moment.

I'm still caught up in illusion and the clutter of my conscious mind, but at least now my spark is back and I have a guiding star by which I can grope through the darkness.

[flofrog]

The lesson I got from the experience was that I need to detach somewhat and think about what is real and what is important. I think I understand somewhat better what Ra meant when they refer to things as transient or distortions. It seems to me that a lot of spiritual or magical practice only serves to embed people further in illusion rather than to free them from it. Our minds are full of psychic baggage that just weighs us down and it's not even real and isn't even ours.

The whole self-isolation thing has been helpful for me, giving me the time and space to explore these concepts and boil down my spiritual practice to what's really important and I've found it's the following:

1. Don't get too attached to things, people, ideas.
2. Find a way to be of service.
3. Feel the love in the moment.

I'm still caught up in illusion and the clutter of my conscious mind, but at least now my spark is back and I have a guiding star by which I can grope through the darkness.

Quite wonderful Spaced