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    Thread: My experiences with crystal healing


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    04-30-2020, 04:51 PM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2020, 06:42 PM by Navaratna.)
    I was first intrigued by the properties of amethyst.

    I really tried to separate the feeling of amazement and the energy I thought I could sense in varieties of quartz. "How do I know it's not just me feeling amazed at the beauty of an object, simply making it seem more significant?"

    Over time I kept on trying to figure out ways to continuously sense the auric field around these kinds of things. Obsidian always seemed to always work and the impression of there being some sort of energy never really faded. Even people not interested in this topic seemed to notice that obsidian when bathed in ocean water and/or sunlight seemed to feel like it had some 'living' energy.

    In particular I read in many books about how obsidian was used in mesoamerican divination as scrying mirrors. visualization aids. some were made of magnetite/pyrite and were used to light fires but they have a tendency to rust away as they are iron and humidity destroys them
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_u...esoamerica

    Itzli--blood of the Earth they called this material in one language.

    But eventually I developed an idea that made me and other people sensitive. Ask "What makes you feel emotional? Either happy or sad, think of those ideas and release the feelings in to the object."

    All objects carry an atomic vibration.
    I'll share in my opinion the crystals that I think anchor you to the physical plane/what they attract/manifest

    Garnet - transformational stone of business. They absorb energy very effectively.
    Obsidian - useful for divination, emotional absorbtion. Easy to sell as jewelry to people.

    Tourmalines, preferably very large, multi-colored, or embedded in clear quartz - wealth, focused stability. I think it's impressive that Asian cultures made extremely valuable carvings out of large pieces of colored tourmaline. It's fragile and somewhat expensive material. This practice continues today and the finished carvings are worth huge amounts of money. The Chinese Empress Dowager was completely obsessed with stockpiling and wearing pink tourmaline.
    Topaz - Firmness. They will not break easily like many other stones. My favorite are the blood red mesoamerican variety.
    Amethyst - Wealth [people buy amethyst], serenity, psychic power. Particularly Veracruz or Sonoran amethyst
    Elestial smoky quartz - Very strong energy, especially in clear crystals. they have patterns that look like they're out of a videogame. The color of smoky quartz is a result of natural irradiation.

    Magnetite/ilmenite/pyrite/hematite/lodestone - These magnetic stones banish negativity. They absorb energy as they are dark objects. They will suck it up and redirect it toward the planet's magnetic field where it is cycled away. They have been found in caches all around mesoamerica coating the walls of temples, and are mentioned in Mideast and East Indian lore as banishing evil spirits by absorbing them. See Djinn/bhoots.

    Elestial amethysts - I've got to place emphasis on finding large varieties of these. Smaller ones are cute and all, but vera cruz amethyst is much more clear and symmetrical. Small ones will also easily chip. A very large one has a lot of energy and can be carried around like a caveman club.
    Vesuvianite - I sense tremendous energy in these lime green and purple crystals. Named after mount Vesuvius they are a form of crystallized
    idocrase. One day I entered a store and saw an inch tall multi-colored chunk and felt strong sensations in my heart like I was having disrupted vibrations being lifted out of me. This was a very odd intense experience that really removed a lot of doubt I have about this sort of thing.
    Morganite - Beauty
    Kunzite - Just a feeling of energy, they contain lithium which the energizer rabbit runs on
    Benitoite - Very transformative
    Lapis lazuli - This stone in ancient times was a favorite among Mideastern royalty--Egyptians/Sumerian lords horded it for lapidary pieces such as bowls and animal carvings/statues, along with Inca who got it from Chile and Chinese people who even today just enjoy hoarding these kinds of things.
    Rhodochrosite - A sensation of Earthly love. Valued among Inca
    Asian tektite - Wealth, people will buy them if they are sensitive to these energies

    Pallasite, a meteoric crystal. Known to mesoamericans as the gold of the supreme rain lord Tlaloc. These are expensive and difficult to find, but I have never witnessed anything else as powerful as the energy of these solar fragments. They are pieces of disintegrated planets.

    Edit: Danburite I thought for a while wasn't so impressive, but I had the name stuck in the back of my head for a while. I remember seeing some large pieces that looked so much like clear kunzite. I read on a forum where people were talking about moldavite/tektites and a person in the comments mentioned danburite made them see like some sort of energetic veil had been lifted. I got some and had some strange experiences being able to see more of the tremendous power of clear elestial smoky quartz.

    Also, 2 mesoamerican demigods. Earthbound water goddess Chalchiuhtlicue, celestial water god Tlaloc. She of the greenstone skirt [emerald/malachite/jade/mexican cantera stone/green obsidian/bloodstone] and he who makes things sprout [pallasite meteor,turquoise, jade, tarragon, copal incense, while lotus] there are many more talismans for both

    Azurite, malachite, eilat stone etc..I keep linking this video but it's interesting and it has intrigued people. It's about the alleged vision-enhancing properties of copper minerals/crystals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbpg0DE_ilk

    I'll tell you some odd stories about tourmaline.
    I remember years and years ago I met this guy who looked like he was in his 30s or 40s. He was chilling with his dogs outside of a coffee shop as I was hanging out nearby. I started talking to him because he was decorated with all kinds of stones, tigers eye piercing and rings, jewelry all over the place. He started telling me about how he was retired. He clearly had money. "Tourmaline attracts...wealth" he told me.

    I can think of 5 occasions I bought rods of regular sized green tourmaline. I have always liked the purity of their energy. I remember one day after leaving a store I thought 'How could this possibly attract energy" then suddenly a group of 3 people offered me money to pose with their friend in a photo who was clearly going through a midlife crisis. huh that was odd I thought.
    Another day I had hours to kill before going to work, and stopped in this new age store I'd never been to. I bought another rod of green tourmaline for a few dollars. Later I went to go lay down in the shade of a tree and thought "how could I possibly manifest any money here, no one even hangs out here" as I was laying down a group of people walked up and this woman offered me 5$ to go hang out somewhere else cuz they wanted to take a photo for a wedding. Sure

    I can think of a few other stories like this, like finding money on the floor of a bar the day after I got another piece. Green tourmaline isn't the cheapest stone either, and it's popular.

    I think this woman here embodies the highly magnaminous pure green ray 4th density energy of green tourmaline [in my opinion verdelite sounds less annoying though...] Another fact which is intriguing which is rarely mentioned is that all tourmaline contains a significant amount of chemically bound water. It is one reason why they are somewhat rare in nature, there needs to be liquid present in the Earth where they form. Reading about all the worlds kundalini dragons shows you that water and hydromancy [scrying/meditating over bodies water] are common themes. All life forms need water. This may be a part of the reason they give such a beneficial feeling to people. They also come in more color varieties than any other stone.

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    07-05-2020, 02:47 AM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2020, 03:09 AM by Black Dragon.)
    I've always been attracted to minerals since I was a small child. I'm a big time rock nerd, so I feel I should share my own experiences and passion on this thread. I have a somewhat large rock collection of common and fancy mineral specimens from my childhood that wasn't added to for years until I started metaphysical seeking, and in the last few years I've expanded it a ton. I have most of it displayed on shelves in my room, and it's quite extensive. I've got at least one of most minerals you'd be able to name, and then some. All varieties, from raw natural formations to polished and tumbled specimens, raw slabs, you name it.

    I would not consider myself adept at crystal healing, just as I wouldn't really consider myself an adept yet in a metaphysical sense, although as a wanderer those proclivities are very powerful, but in need of purifying and development still(nobody's perfect, right?). I enjoy their beauty and their presence, and sometimes I have them with me and feel their energy and meditate with them, but I don't do anything fancy with them like any kind of ritual or deliberate healing practice. I can feel their vibration tangibly when held in hand.

    Recently(over a month or two ago now) I damaged/chipped a quite rare naturally formed double terminated Afghanite specimen, and I still feel really hurt and bummed out by it, more than is healthy for sure. I'm kinda beating myself up over it, and maybe it was meant to teach me something, but it still hurts and makes me feel an unworthy caretaker of such things. It helps a bit to talk about it, but still feels like crap.

    In the last few years I've also done a lot of research on crystals in a metaphysical sense, which is something I didn't consider at all when collecting as a child, though probably part of why I was drawn to them. Ask me about any mineral, and I probably have multiple varieties of it, from the well-known stuff to some more obscure. If you know what a naturally double terminated crystal is, I'm especially drawn to this type of formation if any given stone comes in it. I've got a lot of different varieties of double terminated quartz and corundum(ruby/sapphire), and many others. I like them because they are complete and unbroken, and not simply snapped off of matrix/host rock but dug up complete in themselves with a strong bi-directional energy flow.

    As a kid in the 90's, I bough them at fairs, special shops, or by mail in "rock of the month" type clubs, but now I've got some major eBay and Etsy kung fu for finding great and unique specimens at budget prices. I've also got a few for sale on my Etsy shop.

    Now for some stuff I've got and some of my personal favorites Smile. I'll start with quartz, because that's the quintessential stone according to most metaphysical practitioners, and because it comes in so many varieties and colors with so many inclusions of different minerals it's just insane. Double terminated quartz is the most sought after, so if I can get a given variety in this form, I go for it. I've got diamond clear Arkansas quartz, Tibetan/Himalayan with black carbon inclusions, red hematite, blue dumortierite, red sparkles Lepidocrocite/"harlequin quartz", pink/mauve included lithium quartz, and a couple other varieties, all in naturally double-terminated form. Hematite varieties of quartz give you all the bang and versatility of quartz plus strong grounding energies.

    I have all three well known tektites/impact glass; black tektite, moldavite, and Libyan desert glass. Out of the three, I'm most drawn to the clear-golden hues of LDG and the gentle but steadfast bolstering of benevolent willpower. Moldavite is nice, and some people swear by it as the most powerful crystal(there is no "most powerful", they all serve a purpose and it's about what works for you). I find it a little brusque and overpowering for my current vibration(it doesn't f*** around or sugar coat anything), but still enjoy my small specimen.

    As far as actual meteors, I don't have pallasite, as it's quite expensive, and the better deals tend to be "rusters", or lower quality specimens with a tendency to rust over time. I do have a Campo Del Cielo meteorite fragment, which are very affordable for a real meteor. I personally refer to this stone as "Dragon's Blood" or the "Iron Phoenix". It's said to help overcome any obstacle, tragedy, or past events, which is very fitting, since it originated from the "main asteroid belt" before coming to Earth. This is literally a piece of Maldek.

    I've got several varieties and colors of garnet, all fully-formed and terminated raw specimens. Corundum(ruby/sapphire) is surprisingly cheap in raw, collector's grade specimens, even very nice and large double-terminated ones. My most remarkable one is a large(30+ mm, 100 gram) sapphire of a muted/opaque blue color, that is completely uncut and unpolished and has a perfect natural six-sided hexagonal barrel shape with flat terminations on both ends, and a "star" trapiche formation on the top termination, which is uncommon and gives it a whirlpool or vortex like quality. It is alluvial, meaning comes from a deposit that was in water at one point, which depending on how long, polishes a stone smooth and reduces its natural facets/edges, but this one is only slightly smoothed with sharp lines still visible. It has a very deep energy that feels like it draws in and filters anything negative and streams light back out.

    Perhaps my favorite type of all is Zircon(not cubic zirconium, natural zircon). In my opinion, it's the most underrated crystal out there. It's also one of my birth stones. It comes in roughly bi-pyramidal shapes, and is hard to find a nice, large natural one. I've got a handful of Zircons, all natural and fully terminated, with a particularly big and glossy one from Australia, from a deposit that makes it a whopping 730,000,000 years old(there was nothing but jellyfish things, and no ET's I know of that had set up shop here yet). The oldest tiny fully formed zircons are the oldest crystals in the world, specimens being found from 4 billion years ago, slightly after the planet formed. Zircon is probably the densest/heaviest mineral I know of, being I think 1.5 or 2x the weight of a diamond the same size.

    Zircon is a stone that works with all chakras, even the "transpersonal" ones. It is both a grounding stone and a crown chakra stone of immense spiritual heights, and good for everything in between. Some sources list it as a heart chakra stone, and yes, it is definitely this too, drawing the powers from the bottom up and top down into the center at the same time and reciprocating. It is the ultimate binding of heaven and earth, and can ground a wanderer without feeling heavy or constraining. It is a stone of integrity and virtue, and the wise use of immense power, containing within it trace amounts of uranium, thorium, and other such materials, but in a form that is safe to handle(probably more so than a cellphone). This is a real heavy hitter yet has a really approachable energy for most people.

    So yeah, I'm a really big nerd when it comes to this subject. Feel free to share more of your experiences and insights, or ask me anything about any stone and I'll answer to the best of my knowledge.
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    07-05-2020, 11:28 AM
    So if someone wanted to buy a good stone for meditating with, what would be the things to look for and how would you find one?
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    07-05-2020, 11:41 AM
    (07-05-2020, 11:28 AM)Dtris Wrote: So if someone wanted to buy a good stone for meditating with, what would be the things to look for and how would you find one?

    I'd say get a crystal bible. They have them with pictures of 1000's of them.

    Find the properties of what you are looking for to heal in yourself.
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    07-05-2020, 03:45 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2020, 03:56 PM by Black Dragon.)
    (07-05-2020, 11:28 AM)Dtris Wrote: So if someone wanted to buy a good stone for meditating with, what would be the things to look for and how would you find one?

    There's numerous sites that list what stones are good for what and generally what properties they have. Some answers differ a bit because it's partly subjective to each person. In general, clear quartz is a great all-around stone and readily available. I prefer the uncut and unpolished natural forms ones, especially double terminated, but a tumbled stone or sphere can work just as well. Clusters can be nice too. For grounding and protection, hematite and black tourmaline are great and also readily available and inexpensive. For calm and a good meditation aid, one that gets overlooked a lot is white howlite, which is also easy to find and inexpensive. Quartz with red or pink hematite inclusions is a really good all around stone.

    If you want to address specific chakras or issues, run a search based on that or narrow your search to stones of a specific color. Another thing you can do is just look at different types of stones and see what catches your eye, and then research further based on that. I personally find the best deals on eBay and Etsy, as most dedicated crystal store websites tend to overprice a bit, although others will have good deals and maybe something hard to find elsewhere. Most of the well-known and abundant stones aren't ones people bother making fakes of, although it does happen with the more uncommon ones. If it's coming from India or China, make sure you know what you are looking at(although both India and China have a ton of good real, natural specimens, they are also the places I see fakes from most often).

    eBay and Etsy are also good places just to compare prices and value and learn what's a good deal.

    Another thing to add, a handful of less common minerals like orpiment and cinnabar are highly toxic and best not to handle. Others may have asbestos in them and if they break or small pieces come off, can be dangerous. Others yet may be slightly toxic and ok to touch if you wash your hands after and don't put them in any sort of drinking water or elixir. There's a comparatively tiny number of these compared with the majority of stones which are perfectly safe to handle, and if you are unsure, you can just search "what stones are toxic" or search a specific stone by name and see if it's toxic.
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    07-25-2020, 03:08 AM
    (07-05-2020, 11:28 AM)Dtris Wrote: So if someone wanted to buy a good stone for meditating with, what would be the things to look for and how would you find one?

    Azurite in all it's forms and definitely its rare crystalline form are interesting.

    Veracruz amethyst is a very desirable and violet ray object.

    I'd look for pieces that are the clearest. Right now I'm trying to find hessonite garnet because it is affordable yet one of the nine navaratna (the 9 hindu jewels) and works on the base chakras.
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    07-25-2020, 03:52 AM
    Navaratna, thank you for all your many posts on this subject, they are really great, Smile

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    07-26-2020, 09:57 PM
    I've got a piece of double terminated Veracruz amethyst, hard to come by, but nice. Like any other amethyst, keep it out of direct sunlight so it doesn't fade. Garnets are sweet, got a few varieties of those. Serpentine is an awesome stone, most sources say it's mainly a heart chakra stone, but quite a few say it works on all chakras, which I don't doubt. It has a nice grounding feel to it. Thulite is another stone I really like, especially if it's got a really deep reddish magenta coloring.

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    07-27-2020, 07:39 AM
    (07-26-2020, 09:57 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: I've got a piece of double terminated Veracruz amethyst, hard to come by, but nice. Like any other amethyst, keep it out of direct sunlight so it doesn't fade. Garnets are sweet, got a few varieties of those. Serpentine is an awesome stone, most sources say it's mainly a heart chakra stone, but quite a few say it works on all chakras, which I don't doubt. It has a nice grounding feel to it. Thulite is another stone I really like, especially if it's got a really deep reddish magenta coloring.

    There's actually a laser called Nd:YAG. The YAG stands for Yttrium Aluminum Garnet. When focused it can actually make the air ignite in small sparks and make a popping sound.
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    07-27-2020, 03:44 PM
    (07-27-2020, 07:39 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote:
    (07-26-2020, 09:57 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: I've got a piece of double terminated Veracruz amethyst, hard to come by, but nice. Like any other amethyst, keep it out of direct sunlight so it doesn't fade. Garnets are sweet, got a few varieties of those. Serpentine is an awesome stone, most sources say it's mainly a heart chakra stone, but quite a few say it works on all chakras, which I don't doubt. It has a nice grounding feel to it. Thulite is another stone I really like, especially if it's got a really deep reddish magenta coloring.

    There's actually a laser called Nd:YAG. The YAG stands for Yttrium Aluminum Garnet. When focused it can actually make the air ignite in small sparks and make a popping sound.

    Crystals have a lot of strange properties that are somewhat apparent to mainstream science. Quartz gives off far infra-red radiation, which is beneficial to humans and animals. Quartz and sapphire have ben used to keep time in watches, Tourmaline also emits far-infrared and there's something else interesting about it I'll haver to find again, something to do with its ability to handle high frequency sound waves or something like that.

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    08-02-2020, 07:35 PM (This post was last modified: 08-02-2020, 07:37 PM by Navaratna.)
    Tourmaline contains water it's a little known fact. The first lasers were made out of synthetic rubies. I've also read that there have been discoveries of concave mirrors of magnetite that were used as magnifying glasses to light fire in Olmec places.

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    08-02-2020, 08:59 PM (This post was last modified: 08-02-2020, 09:03 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (08-02-2020, 07:35 PM)Navaratna Wrote: Tourmaline contains water it's a little known fact. The first lasers were made out of synthetic rubies. I've also read that there have been discoveries of concave mirrors of magnetite that were used as magnifying glasses to light fire in Olmec places.

    Synthetic ruby is just Sapphire doped with Chromium ions (3+ charge).
    The first laser, a ruby laser (invented by Maiman), was actually a ruby rod pumped with a xenon flashlamp. It could put a hole in a razor blade.

    I believe though that masers were older. Microwave lasers so to speak.

    This guy can start fires with chi.



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    08-03-2020, 02:49 AM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2020, 02:57 AM by Black Dragon.)
    (08-02-2020, 08:59 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote:
    (08-02-2020, 07:35 PM)Navaratna Wrote: Tourmaline contains water it's a little known fact. The first lasers were made out of synthetic rubies. I've also read that there have been discoveries of concave mirrors of magnetite that were used as magnifying glasses to light fire in Olmec places.

    Synthetic ruby is just Sapphire doped with Chromium ions (3+ charge).
    The first laser, a ruby laser (invented by Maiman), was actually a ruby rod pumped with a xenon flashlamp. It could put a hole in a razor blade.

    I believe though that masers were older. Microwave lasers so to speak.

    This guy can start fires with chi.



    That's true. Ruby and Sapphire, even natural versions, are actually the same stone(corundum), the only difference being color due to trace elements. I've got both in collector's grade large natural forms, as well as purple, rusty orange, and green varieties. The green is smaller and hard to come by, but nice to look at and extremely calming. Cool vid. It's been proven people can structure water in a similar manner, so I find starting a fire that way totally believable.

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    08-07-2020, 03:48 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2020, 03:51 PM by Navaratna.)
    I'm familiar with that. To take it a step further once you recognize the fact that Sapphire, yellow Sapphire, and Ruby are all really just varieties of corundrum and diamond is the fourth Jewel representing Venus, then the Hindu navaratna is more in line with the Law of One than just the fact that the planets are and the exact same arrangement such as the third (density) planet being Saturn and the fourth (density) being Venus. I've mentioned this before but by mentioning Ruby, they're pretty much saying corundum. I'm really familiar with minerals but I didn't even know that yellow Sapphire existed before I learned about the Hindu astrology.
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    08-07-2020, 05:34 PM
    (08-07-2020, 03:48 PM)Navaratna Wrote: I'm familiar with that. To take it a step further once you recognize the fact that Sapphire, yellow Sapphire, and Ruby are all really just varieties of corundrum and diamond is the fourth Jewel representing Venus, then the Hindu navaratna is more in line with the Law of One than just the fact that the planets are and the exact same arrangement such as the third (density) planet being Saturn and the fourth (density) being Venus. I've mentioned this before but by mentioning Ruby, they're pretty much saying corundum. I'm really familiar with minerals but I didn't even know that yellow Sapphire existed before I learned about the Hindu astrology.

    Yeah, for sure. Corundum comes in so many colors. I've got quite a few, but have yet to find a yellow one. None of them are "gem/facet grade", they are opaque to varying degrees, but they are of substantial size that fit nice in the hand and beautiful, 100% natural six-sided prismatic form, and terminated on both ends. Collector's grade samples like this are actually really cheap, the most expensive one ran me $20. I don't think the lack of gem grade clarity makes a super significant difference in terms of power, maybe back in the day when energy fields and personal/cultural/societal beliefs about "purity" were different. I see crystals as sort of a "permission slip" anyways to express the power that's actually within the person, and even the most humble stone can facilitate that if it's appreciated by the person employing it and their intent is strong.

    I'm not sure where Zircon falls in the Hindu mythology if it's mentioned at all, but it's a really significant stone in Judeo-Christian mythology, making the floor of the 11'th level of the firmament or some such, as well as one of the stones on the breastplate of the high priests of Israel. It forms in bi-pyramidal formations, is usually brown or brownish but comes in red, orange, gold/yellow, and rarely green. It's probably the heaviest crystal out there, weighing like 1.5x or more than a diamond of the same size. The weight is very noticeable in hand. It also contains harmless trace amounts of nuclear materials, and the oldest crystals ever found on Earth are tiny zircons from 4 billion years ago. Other names it goes by historically are Jacinth, Hyacinth, and Jargon. It's also one of my birth stones along with turquoise, tanzanite, and in some traditions corundum.

    Beryl(emerald/aquamarine) also comes in a surprising variety of colors. There's just so much out there to explore in terms of minerals. I'm constantly surprised when I though I've seen it all and discover a handful of new things I never even knew existed. Back in the day most people only knew about what types of gems they could find locally or trade from neighboring areas, and they often made mistakes in classification, like mistaking spinel for rubies due to similar colors, even though the structure and chemical formula is a completely different stone. Now days it's as easy as going online, and not only having every type of stone imaginable at your fingertips, but all the information both scientific and metaphysical you could want.

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    If I recall, they use sapphire as optically pure windows for lasers (called apertures). I think because they are scratch resistant and can take a high powered laser.
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    (08-07-2020, 05:39 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: If I recall, they use sapphire as optically pure windows for lasers (called apertures). I think because they are scratch resistant and can take a high powered laser.

    Yeah that's one of the common technological applications for it. It has the right optical/refraction properties for the laser and is also hard and scratch resistant. In fact, It's a 9 on a Moh's hardness scale, 10 being diamond and 7 being quartz for reference.
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    There was a .9 carat yellow Sapphire a store had for over $150 and I wish it was cheaper than that. Out of the nine jewels the yellow cats eye and yellow Sapphire are the most difficult to find. I'm not willing to pay the price of a 2 carat diamond. There's only a select few places which yellow sapphires come from such as Madagascar and Burma. it's kind of funny to me how cheap things like hessonite and coral are yet are yellow Sapphire is not affordable anywhere without traveling to Asia and most people won't even stock them because it's not like most people ask for one. 2 carats is the size that is mentioned in the book autobiography of a yogi which discusses the concept in detail. It's kind of funny to me because having all 9 would bring a person great benefits but I try to be practical, and I kind of draw a blank on what exactly it would do for me if I had them all.

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    (08-07-2020, 06:08 PM)Navaratna Wrote: There was a .9 carat yellow Sapphire a store had for over $150 and I wish it was cheaper than that. Out of the nine jewels the yellow cats eye and yellow Sapphire are the most difficult to find. I'm not willing to pay the price of a 2 carat diamond. There's only a select few places which yellow sapphires come from such as Madagascar and Burma. it's kind of funny to me how cheap things like hessonite and coral are yet are yellow Sapphire is not affordable anywhere without traveling to Asia and most people won't even stock them because it's not like most people ask for one

    Why not work with ethereal crystals?

    You can create an astral representation of any crystal that exists here, or anywhere in the Universe or parallel reality, just with intent.

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    08-07-2020, 06:13 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2020, 06:13 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    And if you put enough energy into an astral representation of a crystal, you can manifest it physically, without flaw.

    I can 90% manifest the sensation of something solid, but not yet make it solid.

    The philosopher's stone is my favorite.

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    08-07-2020, 06:33 PM
    I imagine having a booth or something at a place like a fair with all of these objects and their meaning/applications that could be traded with people. I could do that but it'd be pretty boring to anybody witnessing me doing that.
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    08-07-2020, 08:18 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2020, 08:19 PM by Black Dragon.)
    Here's some yellow sapphire tumble stones that are non gem grade. Obviously much lower grade than something a jewelry shop would sell, but the price is right, and you get a stone that's close to if not an inch big, and you get 4-5g for the smaller size and 6-7g for the larger size. The color and translucency is actually pretty decent. One could make a nice little palm stone or be wire wrapped for an attractive pendant. https://www.etsy.com/listing/748401049/1...ch_click=1

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    08-07-2020, 09:44 PM
    I'd be willing to settle for low-grade ones because the thing is if you expect to follow the idea of them being flawless and 2 carats... Good luck getting an emerald like that without paying a fortune
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    08-08-2020, 04:20 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2020, 04:23 PM by Navaratna.)
    There's also Star sapphires and star rubies which are pretty unique. Black Star sapphires really are something else. Here's an example of a famous enormous Star Sapphire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_India_(gem)
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    08-08-2020, 08:18 PM
    (08-08-2020, 04:20 PM)Navaratna Wrote: There's also Star sapphires and star rubies which are pretty unique. Black Star sapphires really are something else. Here's an example of a famous enormous Star Sapphire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_India_(gem)

    I'm familiar with those. There's also star garnets, and another pattern in corundum called a "trapiche" that looks pretty cool.

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    08-08-2020, 08:46 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2020, 08:53 PM by Navaratna.)
    To answer your question about zircon, I'm not sure if it's used in Hindu astrology but there's a YouTube channel astrogemveda which seems to refer to most of the nine jewels and more. it was from there that I discovered that lapis lazuli also is a stone that represents the planet Saturn so there is more to it than the nine but it's not like I have read books about this topic it's mostly just things I've read online. lapis lazuli definitely was valuable to the Egyptians and Sumerians though because thousands upon thousands of artifacts ranging from statuettes to jewelry and plates/bowls have been found in the Royal tombs in Iraq and Egypt. The story of the Sumerian underworld goddess innana describes her ornaments as a rod of lapis lazuli and rings

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    08-08-2020, 09:00 PM
    I have been told that in astrology Saturn and Mars both represent negative planets.
    Saturn is a place where souls beyond help are sent or go to be reset so to speak.

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    (07-05-2020, 02:47 AM)Black Dragon Wrote: I've always been attracted to minerals since I was a small child. I'm a big time rock nerd, so I feel I should share my own experiences and passion on this thread. I have a somewhat large rock collection of common and fancy mineral specimens from my childhood that wasn't added to for years until I started metaphysical seeking, and in the last few years I've expanded it a ton. I have most of it displayed on shelves in my room, and it's quite extensive. I've got at least one of most minerals you'd be able to name, and then some. All varieties, from raw natural formations to polished and tumbled specimens, raw slabs, you name it.

    I would not consider myself adept at crystal healing, just as I wouldn't really consider myself an adept yet in a metaphysical sense, although as a wanderer those proclivities are very powerful, but in need of purifying and development still(nobody's perfect, right?). I enjoy their beauty and their presence, and sometimes I have them with me and feel their energy and meditate with them, but I don't do anything fancy with them like any kind of ritual or deliberate healing practice. I can feel their vibration tangibly when held in hand.

    Recently(over a month or two ago now) I damaged/chipped a quite rare naturally formed double terminated Afghanite specimen, and I still feel really hurt and bummed out by it, more than is healthy for sure. I'm kinda beating myself up over it, and maybe it was meant to teach me something, but it still hurts and makes me feel an unworthy caretaker of such things. It helps a bit to talk about it, but still feels like crap.

    In the last few years I've also done a lot of research on crystals in a metaphysical sense, which is something I didn't consider at all when collecting as a child, though probably part of why I was drawn to them. Ask me about any mineral, and I probably have multiple varieties of it, from the well-known stuff to some more obscure. If you know what a naturally double terminated crystal is, I'm especially drawn to this type of formation if any given stone comes in it. I've got a lot of different varieties of double terminated quartz and corundum(ruby/sapphire), and many others. I like them because they are complete and unbroken, and not simply snapped off of matrix/host rock but dug up complete in themselves with a strong bi-directional energy flow.

    As a kid in the 90's, I bough them at fairs, special shops, or by mail in "rock of the month" type clubs, but now I've got some major eBay and Etsy kung fu for finding great and unique specimens at budget prices. I've also got a few for sale on my Etsy shop.

    Now for some stuff I've got and some of my personal favorites Smile. I'll start with quartz, because that's the quintessential stone according to most metaphysical practitioners, and because it comes in so many varieties and colors with so many inclusions of different minerals it's just insane. Double terminated quartz is the most sought after, so if I can get a given variety in this form, I go for it. I've got diamond clear Arkansas quartz, Tibetan/Himalayan with black carbon inclusions, red hematite, blue dumortierite, red sparkles Lepidocrocite/"harlequin quartz", pink/mauve included lithium quartz, and a couple other varieties, all in naturally double-terminated form. Hematite varieties of quartz give you all the bang and versatility of quartz plus strong grounding energies.

    I have all three well known tektites/impact glass; black tektite, moldavite, and Libyan desert glass. Out of the three, I'm most drawn to the clear-golden hues of LDG and the gentle but steadfast bolstering of benevolent willpower. Moldavite is nice, and some people swear by it as the most powerful crystal(there is no "most powerful", they all serve a purpose and it's about what works for you). I find it a little brusque and overpowering for my current vibration(it doesn't f*** around or sugar coat anything), but still enjoy my small specimen.

    As far as actual meteors, I don't have pallasite, as it's quite expensive, and the better deals tend to be "rusters", or lower quality specimens with a tendency to rust over time. I do have a Campo Del Cielo meteorite fragment, which are very affordable for a real meteor. I personally refer to this stone as "Dragon's Blood" or the "Iron Phoenix". It's said to help overcome any obstacle, tragedy, or past events, which is very fitting, since it originated from the "main asteroid belt" before coming to Earth. This is literally a piece of Maldek.

    I've got several varieties and colors of garnet, all fully-formed and terminated raw specimens. Corundum(ruby/sapphire) is surprisingly cheap in raw, collector's grade specimens, even very nice and large double-terminated ones. My most remarkable one is a large(30+ mm, 100 gram) sapphire of a muted/opaque blue color, that is completely uncut and unpolished and has a perfect natural six-sided hexagonal barrel shape with flat terminations on both ends, and a "star" trapiche formation on the top termination, which is uncommon and gives it a whirlpool or vortex like quality. It is alluvial, meaning comes from a deposit that was in water at one point, which depending on how long, polishes a stone smooth and reduces its natural facets/edges, but this one is only slightly smoothed with sharp lines still visible. It has a very deep energy that feels like it draws in and filters anything negative and streams light back out.

    Perhaps my favorite type of all is Zircon(not cubic zirconium, natural zircon). In my opinion, it's the most underrated crystal out there. It's also one of my birth stones. It comes in roughly bi-pyramidal shapes, and is hard to find a nice, large natural one. I've got a handful of Zircons, all natural and fully terminated, with a particularly big and glossy one from Australia, from a deposit that makes it a whopping 730,000,000 years old(there was nothing but jellyfish things, and no ET's I know of that had set up shop here yet). The oldest tiny fully formed zircons are the oldest crystals in the world, specimens being found from 4 billion years ago, slightly after the planet formed. Zircon is probably the densest/heaviest mineral I know of, being I think 1.5 or 2x the weight of a diamond the same size.

    Zircon is a stone that works with all chakras, even the "transpersonal" ones. It is both a grounding stone and a crown chakra stone of immense spiritual heights, and good for everything in between. Some sources list it as a heart chakra stone, and yes, it is definitely this too, drawing the powers from the bottom up and top down into the center at the same time and reciprocating. It is the ultimate binding of heaven and earth, and can ground a wanderer without feeling heavy or constraining. It is a stone of integrity and virtue, and the wise use of immense power, containing within it trace amounts of uranium, thorium, and other such materials, but in a form that is safe to handle(probably more so than a cellphone). This is a real heavy hitter yet has a really approachable energy for most people.

    So yeah, I'm a really big nerd when it comes to this subject. Feel free to share more of your experiences and insights, or ask me anything about any stone and I'll answer to the best of my knowledge.

    Thank you for posting this. I found it very informative. I am a recently awakened wanderer. Though I've been spiritual for the last decade, I have not really made an effort in understanding crystals. I bought a selenite tower yesterday and I found that it "deepened" my meditation last night. The energy went straight through me, as if the cosmos in me had awakened.

    I was told that selenite is self-cleansing. Is this true? I'm a bit lazy, so I am hoping this is true.

    I've also been told that it faciliates astral travel, though I did not notice anything radically different in my dreams last night. If you have any other information about selenite and how to use it I would appreciate it.

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    (08-09-2020, 02:57 AM)KaliSouth Wrote:
    (07-05-2020, 02:47 AM)Black Dragon Wrote: I've always been attracted to minerals since I was a small child. I'm a big time rock nerd, so I feel I should share my own experiences and passion on this thread. I have a somewhat large rock collection of common and fancy mineral specimens from my childhood that wasn't added to for years until I started metaphysical seeking, and in the last few years I've expanded it a ton. I have most of it displayed on shelves in my room, and it's quite extensive. I've got at least one of most minerals you'd be able to name, and then some. All varieties, from raw natural formations to polished and tumbled specimens, raw slabs, you name it.

    I would not consider myself adept at crystal healing, just as I wouldn't really consider myself an adept yet in a metaphysical sense, although as a wanderer those proclivities are very powerful, but in need of purifying and development still(nobody's perfect, right?). I enjoy their beauty and their presence, and sometimes I have them with me and feel their energy and meditate with them, but I don't do anything fancy with them like any kind of ritual or deliberate healing practice. I can feel their vibration tangibly when held in hand.

    Recently(over a month or two ago now) I damaged/chipped a quite rare naturally formed double terminated Afghanite specimen, and I still feel really hurt and bummed out by it, more than is healthy for sure. I'm kinda beating myself up over it, and maybe it was meant to teach me something, but it still hurts and makes me feel an unworthy caretaker of such things. It helps a bit to talk about it, but still feels like crap.

    In the last few years I've also done a lot of research on crystals in a metaphysical sense, which is something I didn't consider at all when collecting as a child, though probably part of why I was drawn to them. Ask me about any mineral, and I probably have multiple varieties of it, from the well-known stuff to some more obscure. If you know what a naturally double terminated crystal is, I'm especially drawn to this type of formation if any given stone comes in it. I've got a lot of different varieties of double terminated quartz and corundum(ruby/sapphire), and many others. I like them because they are complete and unbroken, and not simply snapped off of matrix/host rock but dug up complete in themselves with a strong bi-directional energy flow.

    As a kid in the 90's, I bough them at fairs, special shops, or by mail in "rock of the month" type clubs, but now I've got some major eBay and Etsy kung fu for finding great and unique specimens at budget prices. I've also got a few for sale on my Etsy shop.

    Now for some stuff I've got and some of my personal favorites Smile. I'll start with quartz, because that's the quintessential stone according to most metaphysical practitioners, and because it comes in so many varieties and colors with so many inclusions of different minerals it's just insane. Double terminated quartz is the most sought after, so if I can get a given variety in this form, I go for it. I've got diamond clear Arkansas quartz, Tibetan/Himalayan with black carbon inclusions, red hematite, blue dumortierite, red sparkles Lepidocrocite/"harlequin quartz", pink/mauve included lithium quartz, and a couple other varieties, all in naturally double-terminated form. Hematite varieties of quartz give you all the bang and versatility of quartz plus strong grounding energies.

    I have all three well known tektites/impact glass; black tektite, moldavite, and Libyan desert glass. Out of the three, I'm most drawn to the clear-golden hues of LDG and the gentle but steadfast bolstering of benevolent willpower. Moldavite is nice, and some people swear by it as the most powerful crystal(there is no "most powerful", they all serve a purpose and it's about what works for you). I find it a little brusque and overpowering for my current vibration(it doesn't f*** around or sugar coat anything), but still enjoy my small specimen.

    As far as actual meteors, I don't have pallasite, as it's quite expensive, and the better deals tend to be "rusters", or lower quality specimens with a tendency to rust over time. I do have a Campo Del Cielo meteorite fragment, which are very affordable for a real meteor. I personally refer to this stone as "Dragon's Blood" or the "Iron Phoenix". It's said to help overcome any obstacle, tragedy, or past events, which is very fitting, since it originated from the "main asteroid belt" before coming to Earth. This is literally a piece of Maldek.

    I've got several varieties and colors of garnet, all fully-formed and terminated raw specimens. Corundum(ruby/sapphire) is surprisingly cheap in raw, collector's grade specimens, even very nice and large double-terminated ones. My most remarkable one is a large(30+ mm, 100 gram) sapphire of a muted/opaque blue color, that is completely uncut and unpolished and has a perfect natural six-sided hexagonal barrel shape with flat terminations on both ends, and a "star" trapiche formation on the top termination, which is uncommon and gives it a whirlpool or vortex like quality. It is alluvial, meaning comes from a deposit that was in water at one point, which depending on how long, polishes a stone smooth and reduces its natural facets/edges, but this one is only slightly smoothed with sharp lines still visible. It has a very deep energy that feels like it draws in and filters anything negative and streams light back out.

    Perhaps my favorite type of all is Zircon(not cubic zirconium, natural zircon). In my opinion, it's the most underrated crystal out there. It's also one of my birth stones. It comes in roughly bi-pyramidal shapes, and is hard to find a nice, large natural one. I've got a handful of Zircons, all natural and fully terminated, with a particularly big and glossy one from Australia, from a deposit that makes it a whopping 730,000,000 years old(there was nothing but jellyfish things, and no ET's I know of that had set up shop here yet). The oldest tiny fully formed zircons are the oldest crystals in the world, specimens being found from 4 billion years ago, slightly after the planet formed. Zircon is probably the densest/heaviest mineral I know of, being I think 1.5 or 2x the weight of a diamond the same size.

    Zircon is a stone that works with all chakras, even the "transpersonal" ones. It is both a grounding stone and a crown chakra stone of immense spiritual heights, and good for everything in between. Some sources list it as a heart chakra stone, and yes, it is definitely this too, drawing the powers from the bottom up and top down into the center at the same time and reciprocating. It is the ultimate binding of heaven and earth, and can ground a wanderer without feeling heavy or constraining. It is a stone of integrity and virtue, and the wise use of immense power, containing within it trace amounts of uranium, thorium, and other such materials, but in a form that is safe to handle(probably more so than a cellphone). This is a real heavy hitter yet has a really approachable energy for most people.

    So yeah, I'm a really big nerd when it comes to this subject. Feel free to share more of your experiences and insights, or ask me anything about any stone and I'll answer to the best of my knowledge.

    Thank you for posting this. I found it very informative. I am a recently awakened wanderer. Though I've been spiritual for the last decade, I have not really made an effort in understanding crystals. I bought a selenite tower yesterday and I found that it "deepened" my meditation last night. The energy went straight through me, as if the cosmos in me had awakened.

    I was told that selenite is self-cleansing. Is this true? I'm a bit lazy, so I am hoping this is true.

    I've also been told that it faciliates astral travel, though I did not notice anything radically different in my dreams last night. If you have any other information about selenite and how to use it I would appreciate it.
    Selenite, though common, is a very powerful stone. I'm not really and expert on using crystals for metaphysical purposes, but I don't think a lot of the new age "gurus" are either, as much as they can put on that image. In fact, I feel few humans have truly and authentically progressed far enough along those lines to really know what's what as far as actually employing crystals for healing purposes and such, though meditating with them and subjectively feeling their energy and letting it help you as it may is simple enough for anyone to do.

    That's why I can't say with authority anything regarding "charging" or "cleansing", but can only speak from subjective experience and opinion. Crystals will operate within the bounds of your personal belief system. For me, I feel that a prayer to remove any accumulated energy that is other than divine love and send it directly back to source to be transmuted, and only divine love to flow through a given stone is enough to cleanse it. Doing this before or after any extensive use or having it on your person for an extended time, every so often, should be plenty to cleanse any stone. With most stones(but not your selenite, as it can be damaged by water), you can run it under room temperature or cool water while saying or thinking the prayer for good measure if that fits your belief system. No elaborate or specific rituals are necessary. It can't hurt to do this with any stone, even if some guru or website claims it doesn't need cleansing.

    Those same sites will tell you "well this stone never needs cleansing, while this one here requires you bury it in quartz sand smoked with sage and dance around it five times in a pink unitard under a full moon". I get the feeling this sort of thinking is just hogwash and superstition, coming from times when humanity was young and (more) ignorant and there was an emphasis on precise, mechanistic ritualism and perfectionism tied into every magical working. If a simple prayer can change the structure of water, it's good enough to cleanse your stones-any stone.
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    08-09-2020, 11:44 AM
    Regarding cleaning, kyanite (which is black or blue) doesn't need clearing or charging. It can be used to charge and clear other stones as well.

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