According to Ra, ambrosia is the food of 4th density

[Navaratna]

I thought this was pretty unique and also kind of funny. Most people have heard the phrase "land of milk and honey" well I guess Ra says something like the land of 4th density and ambrosia. I've eaten ambrosia before it's very nutritious. It's a combination of bee pollen and honey. Greek and Roman legends say that is the food of the gods..hmm. these are very practical instructions. Construct a house out of a pyramid shape, get some diamonds and rubies (other readings reference them) and once you open your heart chakra eat lots of ambrosia..haha. 43.17 Questioner: Is it necessary to eat food in fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

43.18 Questioner: The mechanism of, shall we say, social catalyst due to a necessity for feeding the body then is active in fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The fourth-density being desires to serve and the preparation of foodstuffs is extremely simple due to increased communion between entity and living foodstuff. Therefore, this is not a significant catalyst but rather a simple precondition of the space/time experience. The catalyst involved is the necessity for the ingestion of foodstuffs. This is not considered to be of importance by fourth-density entities and it, therefore, aids in the teach/learning of patience.

43.19 Questioner: Could you expand a little bit on how that aids in the teach/learning of patience?

Ra: I am Ra. To stop the functioning of service to others long enough to ingest foodstuffs is to invoke patience.

43.20 Questioner: I’m guessing that it is not necessary to ingest food in fifth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. However, the vehicle needs food which may be prepared by thought.

43.21 Questioner: What type of food would this be?

Ra: I am Ra. You would call this type of food nectar, or ambrosia, or a light broth of golden white hue.

[AnthroHeart]

Not the same as the ambrosia made with cottage cheese and peaches and stuff I think and coconut.

[Navaratna]

Ankh tattoo on forehead. Check. House made in a pyramid shape? Check. Box of rubies and diamonds? Check. Ambrosia buffet? Check. Anything else? There is a reference to papain...which is a nutrient found exclusively in papaya. Guess I need plenty of papaya too....I'm wondering what else. You see I'm a very practical person. If there's valid information I like to find useful real-world applications for it.
Questioner: I’m going to come back to a couple of points here, but I have to get in a question here about myself. It’d seem to be critical at this point. Can Ra tell me what is physically wrong with me, and what’s causing it, and what I could do to alleviate it?

Ra: I am Ra. The questioner is one also in the midst of further initiation. During this space/time the possibility for mental/emotional distortion approaching that which causes the entity to become dysfunctional is markèd. Further, the yellow-ray, chemical vehicle of the questioner is aging and has more difficulty in the absorption of needed minerals such as iron and other substances such as papain, potassium, and calcium.
At the same time the body of yellow ray begins to have more difficulty eliminating trace elements such as aluminum. The energizing effect has occurred in the colon of the questioner and the distortions in that area are increasingly substantial. Lastly, there is a small area of infection in the mouth of the questioner which needs attention.

[sillypumpkins]

I've read, specifically on the AYP forums, of people who have a spiritual practice, and sometimes they'll find a sweet, sort of liquidy goo drip down the back of their throat during meditation. This is how I've always perceived "ambrosia."

I know the kechari mudra is practiced in part to access this "nectar" too.....

[Navaratna]

This is a part of why I made this topic. I'm curious if this is meant to be interpreted literally. I've got to say out of all known foods, queen bee HDA-10 is really unique food in terms of it's benefits for humans. There are omega 3 6 and 9 fats but HDA-10 does a lot to regenerate tissues and isn't found anywhere else except in bee colonies, at least that we know of. It's the food the queen bee eats, and bee larvae only eat small amounts of when they are in their earliest stages.

[AnthroHeart]

I've read, specifically on the AYP forums, of people who have a spiritual practice, and sometimes they'll find a sweet, sort of liquidy goo drip down the back of their throat during meditation. This is how I've always perceived "ambrosia."

I know the kechari mudra is practiced in part to access this "nectar" too.....

That's awesome. I've definitely had that but didn't know what it was. Never really tasted it, but could feel it definitely.
Inside my mouth is my strongest manifestor.

[Navaratna]

I've never heard of what you're describing but it does remind me of some things I have read in Kundalini yoga about energy elevating up the Sushumna (spine) from the base chakras

[Dtris]

Ambrosia is the name given to the food of the gods in Greek and Roman mythology. It was believed that by ingesting ambrosia it would lengthen the life, heal physical ailments, and could even make you a demigod.

My interpretation of that passage is that Ra was hinting that past myths of ambrosia as the food of the gods were in reference to 5th density other selves who interacted with ancient humans. The ambrosia itself is not something that can be made by humans as it is fifth density food.

[Black Dragon]

Makes sense that some form of sustenance would still be required in higher densities...well, if there's ambrosia, there's definitely it's counterpart-"loosh". The 3d baddies want physical resources, but it's our fear and misery the higher density ones are after. That's why they keep wanting 3d society to reset again and again and never reach a state of uptopia in 3d, because if we did, they'd go hungry.

[Navaratna]

Ambrosia is the name given to the food of the gods in Greek and Roman mythology. It was believed that by ingesting ambrosia it would lengthen the life, heal physical ailments, and could even make you a demigod.

My interpretation of that passage is that Ra was hinting that past myths of ambrosia as the food of the gods were in reference to 5th density other selves who interacted with ancient humans. The ambrosia itself is not something that can be made by humans as it is fifth density food.

The thing is that bee pollen really is one of the most nutritious foods. I don't know if a person could live off of a diet exclusively of ambrosia, but in combination with something like spirulina and some meat like fish or chicken for b vitamins you be pretty close to getting all the nutrients you need. It's because bee pollen is a combination of the pollen of many different flowers

[Diana]

Ra: I am Ra. You would call this type of food nectar, or ambrosia, or a light broth of golden white hue.

I doubt the ambrosia Ra mentioned involved taking life of any kind to make it (or interfering with the bees and the food they make for themselves). It is probably liquid light or something like that.

[Navaratna]

I don't know about that. It says "you" would. Nectar isn't something that bees need to process. It is kind of confusing. I wonder if this also has something to do with the skin tone that Ra was described as having when they walked among humans. I think I remember reading that it was described as golden hued.

[Black Dragon]

The principle is energetic in nature. As Diana stated, it doesn't require taking of life or entropy of any sort of material. As far as "ambrosia", I don't remember the exact quote, but it sounds it's generated through love, through highest excitement, or some type or another of experiential and/or emotional means. The same can be said for "loosh"-nobody necessarily needs to die to generate fear and misery, although much can be generated in certain types of death experience.

[flofrog]

Interesting thread.about 7 years ago i did a ten day water fast and by the fourth day I was walking in a field and started to smell honeysuckle and slowly it seemed to get not only in my nose but through my skin. There was no honeysuckle plant in sight. It lasted only like I don’t know twenty minutes perhaps more, it was like addictive. It made me laugh because there was just no plant in sight. I thought it might come from my passed away mum or grandfather...

Great thread

[Infinite]

A small correction: Ra referred to ambrosia as a fifth density food. On the subject itself, there are 3D entities that feed on prana directly and do not need to eat food. Probably the feed at higher densities is similar.

[AnthroHeart]

A small correction: Ra referred to ambrosia as a fifth density food. On the subject itself, there are 3D entities that feed on prana directly and do not need to eat food. Probably the feed at higher densities is similar.

I don't know how the other 3D entities do it. Must have a high degree of purity.

[Jade]

A small correction: Ra referred to ambrosia as a fifth density food. On the subject itself, there are 3D entities that feed on prana directly and do not need to eat food. Probably the feed at higher densities is similar.

This. In fourth density:

The fourth-density being desires to serve and the preparation of foodstuffs is extremely simple due to increased communion between entity and living foodstuff.

I think this implies eating raw vegetables and fruits harvested from living plants. This is the simplest version of converting light into food, and requires no untimely killing of any living entity.

In fifth density:

You would call this type of food nectar, or ambrosia, or a light broth of golden white hue.

I think Ra is talking about ingesting a formation of light as a sustenance. I don't think honey and bee pollen could be considered "a light broth of golden white hue". I do not believe farming animals for food is a part of any density after this one. Bees work very hard to create and store honey for their hive, humans are actually quite cruel to take it from them.

That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.

[Infinite]

I don't know how the other 3D entities do it. Must have a high degree of purity.

Look for Jasmuheen's books. She explains the process she calls "living on light". A friend already did and went without eating for more than a year. Jasmuheen says you need to have your heart chakra open. In yoga sources it is said that one can live without eating when the throat chakra is open. I'm not sure if there is any connection between the two sources.

[Jade]

I don't know how the other 3D entities do it. Must have a high degree of purity.

Look for Jasmuheen's books. She explains the process she calls "living on light". A friend already did and went without eating for more than a year. Jasmuheen says you need to have your heart chakra open. In yoga sources it is said that one can live without eating when the throat chakra is open. I'm not sure if there is any connection between the two sources.

The Potentiator of the Body is Wisdom, aka activation of the blue ray. This does require a very, very open heart first and foremost. Ra says that once the heart is open, you can "springboard" into the blue-ray. It is the blue-ray entity who is capable of creating reality by using light as if it were a drawing tool, as in, blue-ray entities can change their manifest reality to be in line with their will. They are Co-Creators.

[AnthroHeart]

I don't know how the other 3D entities do it. Must have a high degree of purity.

Look for Jasmuheen's books. She explains the process she calls "living on light". A friend already did and went without eating for more than a year. Jasmuheen says you need to have your heart chakra open. In yoga sources it is said that one can live without eating when the throat chakra is open. I'm not sure if there is any connection between the two sources.

Hmm. I definitely have heart open all the way to crown with intelligent infinity gateway opened.
And still I can't live just off prana.
Though I am not as hungry as I used to be.

[Infinite]

The Potentiator of the Body is Wisdom, aka activation of the blue ray.

I still haven't studied the LOO archetypes in depth because I want to finish my independent tarot study first. But your conclusion is interesting.

This does require a very, very open heart first and foremost. Ra says that once the heart is open, you can "springboard" into the blue-ray.

Yes. I told this friend of mine who has lived on light, that maybe Jasmuheen talked about the need for the heart chakra to be open as a requirement for the throat chakra to open. This would then be a connection between Jasmuheen and the Yoga tradition.

It is the blue-ray entity who is capable of creating reality by using light as if it were a drawing tool, as in, blue-ray entities can change their manifest reality to be in line with their will. They are Co-Creators.

Would you have excerpts from LOO about that specifically?

[RaEatsFoodstuffs]

You know what I'm going to do? Assuming I'm from a higher density (which I don't know if I am), I'm going to be recreating all the greatest foods from earth. I'm going to stuff my face with food for 100 years straight. I'm going to be eating candy and pizzas and steaks and middle eastern food and Mexican food, all while I'm going around interacting/communicating with these other higher density beings. They are going to look at me like, what the hell is wrong with this guy?

[Navaratna]

I'd have some grilled salmon and yellowtail, along with some artichoke-olive-tomato pizza. Give me a side of dolmas, and tiramisu/an orange whey smoothie for desert. Then I'll confuse people by saying that by telling them that I eat exclusively orange sherbert for sustenance, that I in fact actually mean psychicly manifesting orange juice essence or something incomprehensible to foolish mortals. Then not elaborate ahahaha trollolol

[unity100]

43.20 Questioner: I’m guessing that it is not necessary to ingest food in fifth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. However, the vehicle needs food which may be prepared by thought.

43.21 Questioner: What type of food would this be?

Ra: I am Ra. You would call this type of food nectar, or ambrosia, or a light broth of golden white hue.

5th density, not 4th.

[Jade]

It is the blue-ray entity who is capable of creating reality by using light as if it were a drawing tool, as in, blue-ray entities can change their manifest reality to be in line with their will. They are Co-Creators.

Would you have excerpts from LOO about that specifically?

Re: The 5th density entity greeting Carla and the rest of the group.

67.13 Questioner: I was wondering about the magical, shall I say, principles behind the fifth-density entity giving this service and his ability to give it. Why is he able to utilize these particular physical distortions from a philosophical or magical point of view?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity is able to, shall we say, penetrate in time/space configuration the field of this particular entity. It has moved through the quarantine without any vehicle and thus has been more able to escape detection by the net of the Guardians.

This is the great virtue of the magical working whereby consciousness is sent forth essentially without vehicle as light. The light would work instantly upon an untuned individual by suggestion, that is the stepping out in front of the traffic because the suggestion is that there is no traffic. This entity, as each in this group, is enough disciplined in the ways of love and light that it is not suggestible to any great extent. However, there is a predisposition of the physical complex which this entity is making maximal use of as regards the instrument, hoping for instance, by means of increasing dizziness, to cause the instrument to fall or to indeed walk in front of your traffic because of impaired vision.

The magical principles, shall we say, may be loosely translated into your system of magic whereby symbols are used and traced and visualized in order to develop the power of the light.

67.14 Questioner: Do you mean then that this fifth-density entity visualizes certain symbols? I am assuming that these symbols are of a nature where their continued use would have some power or charge. Am I correct?


Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. In fifth density light is as visible a tool as your pencil’s writing.

67.15 Questioner: Then am I correct in assuming this entity configures the light into symbology, that is what we would call a physical presence? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The light is used to create a sufficient purity of environment for the entity to place its consciousness in a carefully created light vehicle which then uses the tools of light to do its working. The will and presence are those of the entity doing the working.

[Navaratna]

There's also some Egyptian legends about Ra and bees. Some say the tears of the Ra sun fell to earth and became bees. I've seen artwork of bees depicted. Mead which is fermented honey was meaningful to a lot of ancient people.

[Diana]

Just so we can be a little more clear, at least from my standpoint, I am reposting Jade's comment. Bees are already in danger because of humankind, which is shortsightedly self-sabotoging since they are integral to the ecosystem. Honey is food for the bees who produce it, not food produced for the humans who take it, just as cow's milk is for the calf she births, in my opinion.

In no way can killing, harming, using, or stealing from other life forms be a part of any compassionate existence beyond one veiled such as the (hopefully fading) 3D one we live in. This is my opinion only, but I feel compelled to advocate for the life forms on this planet other than human.

I think Ra is talking about ingesting a formation of light as a sustenance. I don't think honey and bee pollen could be considered "a light broth of golden white hue". I do not believe farming animals for food is a part of any density after this one. Bees work very hard to create and store honey for their hive, humans are actually quite cruel to take it from them.

[Infinite]

Re: The 5th density entity greeting Carla and the rest of the group.

I understand. I'm not sure if a 3D entity at the fifth level would have that kind of ability. Magical abilities seem to me to be a characteristic of the adept, an entity that is working at the sixth level. Still, I don't know if a 3D entity would have abilities that Ra seems to have suggested are characteristic of fifth density.

However, Ra said that a blue-ray entity is a co-creator. I suppose it is the minimum level where all the entity's catalysis is created by itself. However, I have no idea what this actually means.

[dexter101]

Re: The 5th density entity greeting Carla and the rest of the group.

I understand. I'm not sure if a 3D entity at the fifth level would have that kind of ability. Magical abilities seem to me to be a characteristic of the adept, an entity that is working at the sixth level. Still, I don't know if a 3D entity would have abilities that Ra seems to have suggested are characteristic of fifth density.

However, Ra said that a blue-ray entity is a co-creator. I suppose it is the minimum level where all the entity's catalysis is created by itself. However, I have no idea what this actually means.

are you saying that magical abilites come only from the sixth energy center or that they come from sixth-density beings who are incarnated on earth?

It is the blue-ray entity who is capable of creating reality by using light as if it were a drawing tool, as in, blue-ray entities can change their manifest reality to be in line with their will. They are Co-Creators.

Would you have excerpts from LOO about that specifically?

Re: The 5th density entity greeting Carla and the rest of the group.

67.13 Questioner: I was wondering about the magical, shall I say, principles behind the fifth-density entity giving this service and his ability to give it. Why is he able to utilize these particular physical distortions from a philosophical or magical point of view?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity is able to, shall we say, penetrate in time/space configuration the field of this particular entity. It has moved through the quarantine without any vehicle and thus has been more able to escape detection by the net of the Guardians.

This is the great virtue of the magical working whereby consciousness is sent forth essentially without vehicle as light. The light would work instantly upon an untuned individual by suggestion, that is the stepping out in front of the traffic because the suggestion is that there is no traffic. This entity, as each in this group, is enough disciplined in the ways of love and light that it is not suggestible to any great extent. However, there is a predisposition of the physical complex which this entity is making maximal use of as regards the instrument, hoping for instance, by means of increasing dizziness, to cause the instrument to fall or to indeed walk in front of your traffic because of impaired vision.

The magical principles, shall we say, may be loosely translated into your system of magic whereby symbols are used and traced and visualized in order to develop the power of the light.

67.14 Questioner: Do you mean then that this fifth-density entity visualizes certain symbols? I am assuming that these symbols are of a nature where their continued use would have some power or charge. Am I correct?


Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. In fifth density light is as visible a tool as your pencil’s writing.

67.15 Questioner: Then am I correct in assuming this entity configures the light into symbology, that is what we would call a physical presence? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The light is used to create a sufficient purity of environment for the entity to place its consciousness in a carefully created light vehicle which then uses the tools of light to do its working. The will and presence are those of the entity doing the working.

wow , this is extremely interesting. it all makes sense now. all the symbols used by the elite.

[AnthroHeart]

Re: The 5th density entity greeting Carla and the rest of the group.

I understand. I'm not sure if a 3D entity at the fifth level would have that kind of ability. Magical abilities seem to me to be a characteristic of the adept, an entity that is working at the sixth level. Still, I don't know if a 3D entity would have abilities that Ra seems to have suggested are characteristic of fifth density.

However, Ra said that a blue-ray entity is a co-creator. I suppose it is the minimum level where all the entity's catalysis is created by itself. However, I have no idea what this actually means.

A blue-ray entity is a 5D being. It would be their core vibration.

are you saying that magical abilites come only from the sixth energy center or that they come from sixth-density beings who are incarnated on earth?

Magic is the ability to use the subconscious, consciously according to Ra.

I don't know what subdensity in 3D you begin to use magick, but it would probably either be green or blue-ray. The indigo-ray is the adept.

My throat chakra was very strong early on. It is sometimes this intense: