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    Thread: Doesn't being open & transparent invite attacks?


    earthyone (Offline)

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    #1
    08-13-2020, 01:42 AM
    I have struggled with this question, and I find it hard to fully open up. In fact most people hide things too, like their body under clothes. Where do you draw the line between sharing openly and keeping something private? Think too of spiritual matters. Can you teach truthfully what you know, or do you hold back from fear of reprisal?

    Jesus comes to mind. Even he told people to keep his miracles quiet. Being open & transparent turned him into a martyr shortly after his teaching career started.

    Do you have wisdom here? I want to share, teach, even online, but there seems to be a trade-off between being effective and personal safety.

    What do you think about cloaking teachings, say in parables, or difficult language (like Ra some would say!)? Is this a solution? I know Ra teaches that our protection comes through being thankful for each moment, but that seems to be a protection only to a certain level. Carla and Jesus and other must of have much gratitude/love/light in their life, yet they had so many issues.
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    #2
    08-13-2020, 07:42 AM (This post was last modified: 08-13-2020, 07:43 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Jesus chose to be crucified.
    Remember the times when he walked through the crowds and no one could grab him?
    He was open to intelligent infinity.

    I say, be open as you are comfortable. As you spiritually develop, you will be more comfortable sharing more.
    Of course you can expand your comfort zone if you wish.
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    #3
    08-13-2020, 08:04 AM
    Earthyone, you are here for a reason.
    Your words imply that you want to help others.
    One of the reasons Jesus spoke in parables was that some had already rejected him, and he knew they would not accept his words if they were obvious.  So, when the large crowds were gone, he explained clearly to those who wanted to hear.
    I think it is not worth dying, because then you can continue to do nothing!
    But realize that, in this world as it is today, if you speak the truth, you WILL be attacked.  Those of darkness do not want to tolerate the light.
    Be a warrior for truth anyway.
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    #4
    08-13-2020, 08:22 AM
    jesus and Carla had an overactive green ray. they didnt balance themselves with the wisdom from the blue ray. thats all you really need. when you first fully open the green ray the blue ray will almost always immediately follow. at least thats what most say. dont be so hard on yourself.


    there are things you have to hide in order to continue your path of sharing light/love in this world.
    there is a good quote in the Ra material about this:
    75.15 Questioner: The chink then, as I understand it, was originally created by the decision of Jesus to take the path of martyrdom? Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is, in relation to this instrument, quite correct. It is aware of certain over-balances towards love, even to martyrdom but has not yet, to any significant degree, balanced these distortions. We do not imply that this course of unbridled compassion has any fault but affirm its perfection. It is an example of love which has served as beacon to many.

    For those who seek further, the consequences of martyrdom must be considered, for in martyrdom lies the end of the opportunity, in the density of the martyr, to offer love and light. Each entity must seek its deepest path.
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    #5
    08-13-2020, 11:36 AM
    hey earthyone, I understand that "dissonance" between wanting to serve others but also not wanting to get "walked all over"

    I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

    Based on my understandings, I view the positively polarized entity to have a sort of "innate protection" about them.

    An example in my own personal life:

    Someone close to me has been having a hard time, and they've been taking it out on the people closest to them (me included.)

    Now, I could say, "wait a minute! you can't treat me like that, you a******! get out of here!" HOWEVER, I know that this person is having a hard time personally, and is simply taking it out on me in order to remove the problem from themselves. With that being said, I can't get angry when I understand what's going on with them, i.e when I empathize with them. Therefore, they can say whatever they want to me, and it WON'T hurt me, because I know the truth of the situation and that's enough.

    That's the protective quality of this path, within the frame of my experience.

    Hope that helps.... sorta? lol

    tka ecare
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    #6
    08-13-2020, 03:22 PM
    There is a difference between opening up to others and accepting everything from others. An entity that accepts everything, the martyr, is the pure and perfect expression of someone living in the heart, someone of the green ray. However, in order to serve, this configuration must be overcome, and this requires an opening of the blue ray. The entity then becomes a co-Creator. At this level, the entity is able to judge and deal with the blockages of others and the appropriate reaction / action is paved with wisdom. Beyond these levels are what I call the adept and the Master (the one who has become one with intelligent infinity).

    At all of these levels, entities are open and transparent, and as you penetrate more and more energy levels, you are more able to deal appropriately with other selfs. To be open is then to understand the distortions of others and to be ready to serve in the most appropriate way possible in each experiential nexus.
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    #7
    08-13-2020, 06:50 PM
    Hmmm, well, you go from expulsion from the Garden of Eden (hiding your nakedness) to the crucifixion. I wonder if the real thing you're tussling with is shame. It might help to start your question over using shame and perhaps self-disgust as the point of departure. My guess is that other people are not your real worry, that it's an inside job.
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    #8
    08-13-2020, 08:56 PM
    I often wonder why everyone thinks they need to teach others.

    The biggest service is knowing thyself, and then freely radiating thyself.

    I probably over share in my daily life.

    I say a lot of things the world would think is crazy. Luckily it seems the people who need to have someone say the crazy things are generally the ones I say it to and then they know who to talk to about these fringe topics.

    You’d be surprised how often people really are ready to hear of paranormal type stuff.
    The trick may be though that I never try to teach. I just share my experiences as a peer.
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    #9
    08-14-2020, 12:35 AM
    (08-13-2020, 01:42 AM)earthyone Wrote: I have struggled with this question, and I find it hard to fully open up. In fact most people hide things too, like their body under clothes. Where do you draw the line between sharing openly and keeping something private? Think too of spiritual matters. Can you teach truthfully what you know, or do you hold back from fear of reprisal?

    Jesus comes to mind. Even he told people to keep his miracles quiet. Being open & transparent turned him into a martyr shortly after his teaching career started.

    Do you have wisdom here? I want to share, teach, even online, but there seems to be a trade-off between being effective and personal safety.

    What do you think about cloaking teachings, say in parables, or difficult language (like Ra some would say!)? Is this a solution? I know Ra teaches that our protection comes through being thankful for each moment, but that seems to be a protection only to a certain level. Carla and Jesus and other must of have much gratitude/love/light in their life, yet they had so many issues.

    It allows for accelerated opportunity to learn and grow. In our minds eye, let’s us see the opportunity in every moment. “Attacks” when balanced are highly opurtune moments.

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    08-14-2020, 06:36 AM (This post was last modified: 08-14-2020, 06:37 AM by mayojojo.)
    You know I have this security guard at work that behaves as if he was the boss of the place.
    He sometimes even orders the employee of the stores around. He's quite confident and always talk nonsense and people just kinda listen to him.

    So why do you feel like it's a bad thing to be attacked?
    Well obviously it's because you'd feel hurt.

    That security guard at work is always stepping out of his role. Even though he's working as somewhat a slave for us, but he's always acting like a king and he's not scared to step out of line to say what's in his mind. Most of what he says is garbage by the way.

    So I guess for you to understand what you need to develop is to surround yourself with unreasonable people who are always talking nonsense but never afraid to be attacked. Learn from them. Then you can boldly shine your light without fearing the darkness

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    08-14-2020, 07:40 AM (This post was last modified: 08-14-2020, 07:45 AM by Infinite Unity.)
    When we say “attacked” in this reference, I am talking about fourth and fifth dimensional entities. When these beings attack you, you must follow the string and find it’s origin. It’s origin is never external, it is always an area that is unbalanced, it’s where “the chink in our armor is”. It’s not a fun or pleasurable experience until you become very good at compounding learning from these experiences. The better you become at redirecting the volatility of the attacks into growth, the less willing the entities will be to attack.

    It’s not about the specifics of what the security guard does or says, but rather how he makes you feel and act. When we can begin to transmute negative rising/thoughts/expression into positive rising/thoughts/expressions. These things no longer bother you, but offer major opportunities for growth.

    We must learn and perfect the art of seeing the truth. This security guard probably does what he does from a place of his own insecurity, pain, shortcomings. Often this is how things are.
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    #12
    08-14-2020, 09:39 AM
    (08-13-2020, 01:42 AM)earthyone Wrote: I have struggled with this question, and I find it hard to fully open up. In fact most people hide things too, like their body under clothes. Where do you draw the line between sharing openly and keeping something private? Think too of spiritual matters. Can you teach truthfully what you know, or do you hold back from fear of reprisal?

    Jesus comes to mind. Even he told people to keep his miracles quiet. Being open & transparent turned him into a martyr shortly after his teaching career started.

    Do you have wisdom here? I want to share, teach, even online, but there seems to be a trade-off between being effective and personal safety.

    What do you think about cloaking teachings, say in parables, or difficult language (like Ra some would say!)? Is this a solution? I know Ra teaches that our protection comes through being thankful for each moment, but that seems to be a protection only to a certain level. Carla and Jesus and other must of have much gratitude/love/light in their life, yet they had so many issues.

    Yes for many people their natural state is to be reserved and to cloak the contents of their minds from others and even themselves.

    When one is an open and transparent channel, he is open to the guidance and influence of his Holy Guardian Angel, Higher Self (VI. the Lovers). One is a channel for cosmic forces which he transmutes and transforms. (I. The Magician). The Magician draws his power from above and brings it down through his being.

    There is protection when one is serving the light in this way. The guidance of the Higher Self is free from the fallibility of human reasoning. It is above reason however it’s never contrary to reason. It will never give bad advice. However one needs to know the difference between the Voice of the True Self and the myriad voices of the mischief makers and inhabitants of the astral realms. This is basically intuition (V. The Hierophant). There is a real difference between the two. “Something seemed to have to said to me...”

    When you’re teaching or speaking with others regarding spiritual matters, we need to be discerning and know what we can and what we cannot say, depending on the level of understanding and initiation.

    For example, I am studying the Tarot and just finished with Key 8 Strength. My teachers, at this point in the study, can only share so much about the card because in it is contained potent secrets of practical occultism, magick. This can be very dangerous if the student is not ready because Key 8 is dealing primarily with the Kundalini, a very real and potent force. To rouse the fiery serpent above a comfortable level can invite great distortion in one’s being, madness and obsession, and even death. When one is truly ready he will receive instruction. This applies to all areas of live. The teacher appears when the student is ready.

    For the Christ, he spoke in parables to preserve the free will of those who listened.
    Others veil their teachings and words because of the atmosphere of the times. For example, in the Middle Ages the mere possession of occult knowledge could have one imprisoned or killed.

    Some will purposely distort information and I believe this is WRONG. Many in the field of occultism have done this in previous centuries. (In this day and age, people are able to speak more openly.) There’s no reason to give false information. One may simply withhold that information or gives hints and clues for the individual to work it out for himself. That is true teaching. But to mislead someone is not.

    We are not under the same restrictions as Ra. You are allowed to speak openly and freely with people of this earth. However one should also be discriminating so that he’s not wasting his time and energy speaking to those who don’t want to listen. It can be a hard lesson to learn but it is valuable.

    “To stay silent” has been an occult axiom for ages. “To Will, to Dare, to Know, to keep Silent.”

    People who have not been “called” don’t want to hear what we have to say and are not ready for it. When one is ready he will begin seeking and he will be more open to spiritual learning. The most we can do is give some “bait” to test the waters. If they don’t take it, let it go and move on.
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    08-14-2020, 10:34 PM
    Thank you all. I am still processing all this. Golden answers.
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    08-15-2020, 02:01 PM (This post was last modified: 08-15-2020, 02:06 PM by Aion.)
    There is something to be said for environment. You wouldn't go out in the wilderness where there are wolves whilst naked most of the time, but most are comfortable being naked around their lover. There is a time and a place for things, but there is something in the symbolism of nudity.

    Nudity has been used as a symbol of the purity and freedom of the spirit for a very long time. In a lot of old paintings depicting witches, magicians, yogis, etc, they are nude, often while in the midst of danger. This symbolism suggests a certain kind of power in this exposure of the spirit to the material world which is symbolized by the physical threats. The spirit, unconcerned with such physical things, floats free as is its nature.

    If we in our journey towards the spirit seek to embody it more and more fully, then truly the challenge, the two-faced Lucifer/Satan whom stands in our path is the gradual realization of the duality of the soul and the body, and that eventually when you are able to step past this figure of fear and glamour that duality falls away as an illusion.

    For the spirit has nothing to fear, it is immortal. The body fears its end because it believes it had a beginning, but each body is just a continuous extension of the same body. The husk we leave behind here in the "world of shells" at the end of our time on this plane is like the shed skin of a snake.

    It is reasonable to fear the pain, the end, the suffering. The question is how does each choose to deal with this conundrum?

    Some try to avoid it, some seek pleasure in compensation, some merely let things be as they are. Is there a right way?

    I think that's something each can only decide for themselves.

    Last thought, regarding parables, I don't think any human words are clear communication and in themselves are a sort of veil. The separation of our minds means constant translation.

    So, I would say, we can all only do the best we can to communicate to the mind we are attempting to connect with, but it's important that we keep in mind the boundaries of each mind. Communication is very much an art and a large part of that is, I think, just learning the general shape of each person's mind. It's easy to communicate with "like-minded" people, but much trickier with those who think differently.
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