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    03-24-2021, 07:56 AM (This post was last modified: 03-24-2021, 08:25 AM by Patrick.)
    If this becomes confirmed, it could shake up the consensus and open the door to alternatives like Dewey Larson's view.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56491033

    Quote:We may be on the road to a new era of physics, but if we are, then we are still relatively early on that road at this point. We have seen results of this significance come and go before, so we should be cautious as well as excited

    Here is how things actually works...

    http://reciprocalsystem.org/sites/defaul...uction.mp4

    http://www.conscioushugs.com/

    We will get there. Smile

    (There is also a forum for those interested: https://forum.antiquatis.org/)
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    03-24-2021, 10:41 AM
    (03-24-2021, 07:56 AM)Patrick Wrote: If this becomes confirmed, it could shake up the consensus and open the door to alternatives like Dewey Larson's view.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56491033


    Quote:We may be on the road to a new era of physics, but if we are, then we are still relatively early on that road at this point. We have seen results of this significance come and go before, so we should be cautious as well as excited

    Here is how things actually works...

    http://reciprocalsystem.org/sites/defaul...uction.mp4

    http://www.conscioushugs.com/

    We will get there. Smile

    (There is also a forum for those interested: https://forum.antiquatis.org/)

    Thank you Patrick, I like where you are going. Apart from my interest, (love), of Philosophy, my other weakness in life is Cosmology and Quantum Physics. A "Scientific Nerd". I will watch the video in detail later, although I also looked at the other link and downloaded the PDF. I spend as much time watching videos in the Advanced Sciences, as Metaphysical. You have my support.

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    03-25-2021, 12:03 PM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2021, 12:06 PM by Ming the Merciful.)
    (03-24-2021, 10:41 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (03-24-2021, 07:56 AM)Patrick Wrote: If this becomes confirmed, it could shake up the consensus and open the door to alternatives like Dewey Larson's view.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56491033




    Quote:We may be on the road to a new era of physics, but if we are, then we are still relatively early on that road at this point. We have seen results of this significance come and go before, so we should be cautious as well as excited

    Here is how things actually works...

    http://reciprocalsystem.org/sites/defaul...uction.mp4

    http://www.conscioushugs.com/

    We will get there. Smile

    (There is also a forum for those interested: https://forum.antiquatis.org/)

    Thank you Patrick, I like where you are going.  Apart from my interest, (love), of Philosophy, my other weakness in life is Cosmology and Quantum Physics. A "Scientific Nerd".  I will watch the video in detail later, although I also looked at the other link and downloaded the PDF. I spend as much time watching videos in the Advanced Sciences, as Metaphysical.  You have my support.

    Wink  Wink  Wink

    A Postscript, (unto myself).

    Will somebody please invent a Quantum Computer, (not the simulated Quantum Computer that is envisioned at the current time). A genuine Quantum Computer that can transcend both time and space. I misread the links, (above), and downloaded the wrong PDF. However, I found the genuine PDF, and it is taking forever to download. The PDF is only fifty megabytes in size, how much Quantum Space does it need? A Quantum Computer would had finished downloading even before it had started. If that is not efficient, I don't know what is. An old "Ming the Merciful Saying", (Efficiency is Productivity). I had offered to sell it to the Chinese Government as a propaganda saying, are my roots not Chinese? Not that I actually offered to sell it to them, (per se), but, it is the sentiments that counts. End of Postscript to myself.

    :@  BigSmile  :idea:

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    03-25-2021, 12:06 PM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2021, 12:09 PM by flofrog.)
    (03-24-2021, 07:56 AM)Patrick Wrote: it is the sentiments that counts. End of Postscript to myself.

    :@  BigSmile  :idea:

    Patrick, if it is the sentiment that counts you dont need a quantum computer, you need a Sentiment Computer :idea:
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    03-25-2021, 12:26 PM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2021, 12:27 PM by Patrick.)
    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote:
    (03-24-2021, 07:56 AM)Patrick Wrote: it is the sentiments that counts. End of Postscript to myself.

    :@  BigSmile  :idea:

    Patrick,  if it is the sentiment that counts you dont need a quantum computer, you  need a Sentiment Computer  :idea:

    Your quoting is bugged Flo.  I did not say that. Smile

    But look here, we can have fun with that !

    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote: I really don't like you Patrick !

    :@

    Flo
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    03-25-2021, 01:02 PM
    (03-25-2021, 12:26 PM)Patrick Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote:
    (03-24-2021, 07:56 AM)Patrick Wrote: it is the sentiments that counts. End of Postscript to myself.

    :@  BigSmile  :idea:

    Patrick,  if it is the sentiment that counts you dont need a quantum computer, you  need a Sentiment Computer  :idea:

    Your quoting is bugged Flo.  I did not say that. Smile

    But look here, we can have fun with that !


    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote: I really don't like you Patrick !

    :@

    Flo

    Patrick, (my good fellow). I like that, its very condescending. When you have a moment to spare, will you please invent a "Sentiment Computer"? I would prefer it to be on the small size, (but large on memory and computing capacity). Preferably in Terabytes. We need to raise the bar as far as computing is concerned. We are still using outdated technology. How is this, (oh wise one)? We maybe using sixty-four bit computers, (but), it is still based on eight-bit technology, (8-16-32-64). All it is, is eight-bit multiplied by three, and the input is basically is the same. Perhaps we should do away with "1s" and "0s" and find something more efficient, (Efficiency is Productivity). Perhaps, "11s" or "00s". That would double the input of the "Bit". Or, even better still, "1-1s" and "0-0s", creating a separation between the two bits. Is anybody up to experimentation? Anyway Patrick, (my good fellow), go and give it a try and come back when you are finished. Let me know how you are getting on?

    :idea: Huh Shy

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    03-25-2021, 01:11 PM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2021, 01:14 PM by Patrick. Edit Reason: spelling )
    It's my pleasure to announce the release of the InstaCalc2k computer.  The output appears before you're finished thinking of the question.  Which makes it very useful in refining your question while it is still being pondered just by looking at the results in realtime.

    This release having been made in what appears to us as being our future, it might be a bit of a bother to operate without the proper time translation interface (which is still in development, even in our future).
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    03-25-2021, 01:11 PM
    OH My goodness.... apologies Patrick !!! And Ming apologies to you, as I took out of your authorship a remarquable quote !!!!!!!

    of course I dont like you at all Patrick !!
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    (03-25-2021, 01:11 PM)Patrick Wrote: It's my pleasure to announce the release of the InstaCalc2k computer.  The output appears before you're finished thinking of the question.  Which makes it very useful in refining your question while it is still being pondered just by looking at the results in realtime.

    This release having been made in what appears to us as being our future, it might be a bit of a bother to operate without the proper time translation interface (which is still in development, even in our future).

    And so Patrick, when will this wonderous machine be available? Sold out before it is launched, while the components are still laying manifested in the ground. There are Quantum Paradoxes going on here? Life is a Paradox, (is it not)? I will order, (and not order), simultaneously, and that should mess-up the finances in the Accounting Department. Meanwhile, in  the Shipping Department, they are, (tirelessly), loading, (and unloading), trucks simultaneously, (the same truck). Life is in Chaos. Honor the "God(s) of Chaos". I shall go to Morocco and dance with the goats. I would dance with the sheep, except they were all sacrificed in the name of Christianity.

    There is a point? Has anyone considered sending coded messages with the "Smilies".  :idea:  :idea:  :idea:   :exclamation:  :exclamation:  :exclamation:  Angel  Angel  Angel  (SOS). Ming the Merciless, that is absolute Genius. Why has nobody considered that before?
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    03-25-2021, 02:57 PM
    (03-25-2021, 02:24 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 01:11 PM)Patrick Wrote: It's my pleasure to announce the release of the InstaCalc2k computer.  The output appears before you're finished thinking of the question.  Which makes it very useful in refining your question while it is still being pondered just by looking at the results in realtime.

    This release having been made in what appears to us as being our future, it might be a bit of a bother to operate without the proper time translation interface (which is still in development, even in our future).

    And so Patrick, when will this wonderous machine be available? Sold out before it is launched, while the components are still laying manifested in the ground. There are Quantum Paradoxes going on here? Life is a Paradox, (is it not)? I will order, (and not order), simultaneously, and that should mess-up the finances in the Accounting Department. Meanwhile, in  the Shipping Department, they are, (tirelessly), loading, (and unloading), trucks simultaneously, (the same truck). Life is in Chaos. Honor the "God(s) of Chaos". I shall go to Morocco and dance with the goats. I would dance with the sheep, except they were all sacrificed in the name of Christianity.

    There is a point? Has anyone considered sending coded messages with the "Smilies".  :idea:  :idea:  :idea:   :exclamation:  :exclamation:  :exclamation:  Angel  Angel  Angel  (SOS). Ming the Merciless, that is absolute Genius. Why has nobody considered that before?

    A Postscript, (unto myself).

    Enquiry? What if, (at some later date), that Scientists discovered that there is a point, (*), beyond Quantum Physics? Or, it was discovered that the depths of matter becomes infinite. There being no end to the number of levels of subatomic particles, (within subatomic particles). Speculation? As the Universe, (appears), to be infinitely large, (and without end), could it happen in reverse on the atomic and subatomic level? The Nucleus of an atom is both matter and energy, (simultaneously), residing in both States. Speculation Two? In the State of No State, where the Nucleus is both matter and energy, a third State of Existence exists. Neither energy, nor matter. The "Subatomic Neutral State", (SNS). That is also where we will find "Dark Matter & Dark Energy", meanwhile manifesting itself in the Fourth Dimension when it is neither matter or energy.

    :idea:

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    I remember reading Michael Talbot's book, Beyond the Quantum, back around 1987 and then I was like addicted so I read Your Past Lives, and the Holographic Universe. I didn't wrap my feeble brain completely around his writings but I was so addicted. Need to re-read. Too little time.
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    The problem with "Reality", it is "Unreal". Don't mind me, that is Intuitive Mind talking. The fact is, the statement, (above), came when I was drifting into Intuitive Mind. Very hard to explain unless you are used to being there. You see things. That is not true, you feel things that are unworldly, (yet), at the same time it is part of the Realization. I read something interesting the other day. One of the Founders of the Theosophical Society was taught to use Intuitive Mind. So he drifted into it, and the revelation that he revealed was almost identical to Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. In other words, he was years ahead of modern day Quantum Physics. I also saw another thing on YouTube, where the speculation suggested, is that when Scientists accept the fact of Intuitive Mind, then they will discover the mysteries of the Universe. Anyway, what do you think of my thesis? Plausible?

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    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote: I really don't like you Patrick !

    :@

    Flo


    Flo! I'm aghast.

    I thought you liked Patrick, and I didn't think you were so castigating, but I guess I was wrong...

    : ) Lest someone believe this is legit, the above was a creation of Patrick's in jest. To tie this post slightly back into the article in the OP, Flo is filled with too many beauty quarks for this type of comment.

    (Note: I don't understand what those actually do, but if Flo has any sort of quarks inside of her, surely they would be described as such.)

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    03-26-2021, 03:42 AM (This post was last modified: 03-26-2021, 03:47 AM by LeiwoUnion.)
    (03-25-2021, 08:16 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote: I really don't like you Patrick !

    :@

    Flo


    Flo! I'm aghast.

    I thought you liked Patrick, and I didn't think you were so castigating, but I guess I was wrong...

    : ) Lest someone believe this is legit, the above was a creation of Patrick's in jest. To tie this post slightly back into the article in the OP, Flo is filled with too many beauty quarks for this type of comment.

    (Note: I don't understand what those actually do, but if Flo has any sort of quarks inside of her, surely they would be described as such.)

    Think, what are quarks? They represent certain type of electromagnetic interaction profile and, for example, in their most abundant form tend to gather together in threes to form an even more 'dense' and unique electromagnetic interaction profile and so on. This is called matter. So, as far as I understand, a quark is the smallest manifestation of Light, similarly as the photon is the smallest manifestation of Love in our octave (as they manifest in 3D). Photon is infinite in a sense that it has no mass (although in 3D they are limited by some physical factors like the 'speed of light') while quarks have 'mass' (the question what is mass could go a lot deeper), so they are inherently directed to a purpose due to the 'energy' given to 'them' by sun bodies (in truth they probably form out of this energy spontaneously as will is used). These ideas follow (as far as I understand) Ra's teachings of the first two distortions, but also the scientific knowledge about the existence of these two primal 'particle' types.
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    Reverse causality. Quarks are the shadows projected on plato s wall by the true source, prime spirit.

    Quarks, mass, are all illusions layered in photosphop. Strip off the layers.

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    (03-26-2021, 03:42 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: Think, what are quarks? They represent certain type of electromagnetic interaction profile and, for example, in their most abundant form tend to gather together in threes to form an even more 'dense' and unique electromagnetic interaction profile and so on. This is called matter. So, as far as I understand, a quark is the smallest manifestation of Light, similarly as the photon is the smallest manifestation of Love in our octave (as they manifest in 3D). Photon is infinite in a sense that it has no mass (although in 3D they are limited by some physical factors like the 'speed of light') while quarks have 'mass' (the question what is mass could go a lot deeper), so they are inherently directed to a purpose due to the 'energy' given to 'them' by sun bodies (in truth they probably form out of this energy spontaneously as will is used). These ideas follow (as far as I understand) Ra's teachings of the first two distortions, but also the scientific knowledge about the existence of these two primal 'particle' types.

    Thanks LeiwoUnion. It would be most interesting to apply the primal distortions to the building blocks of matter and the universe, but forgoing that in favor of time, care to take a shot at what characterizes "beauty quarks" in particular?

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    (03-25-2021, 08:16 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 12:06 PM)flofrog Wrote: I really don't like you Patrick !

    :@

    Flo


    Flo! I'm aghast.

    I thought you liked Patrick, and I didn't think you were so castigating, but I guess I was wrong...

    : ) Lest someone believe this is legit, the above was a creation of Patrick's in jest. To tie this post slightly back into the article in the OP, Flo is filled with too many beauty quarks for this type of comment.

    (Note: I don't understand what those actually do, but if Flo has any sort of quarks inside of her, surely they would be described as such.)

    I am so sorry I was totally jesting of course,... I apologize to everyone, Patrick and I are now old friends and we banter and tease each other all the time !!! lol But sorry !!! BigSmile
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    (03-25-2021, 06:26 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The problem with "Reality", it is "Unreal". Don't mind me, that is Intuitive Mind talking. The fact is, the statement, (above), came when I was drifting into Intuitive Mind. Very hard to explain unless you are used to being there. You see things. That is not true, you feel things that are unworldly, (yet), at the same time it is part of the Realization. I read something interesting the other day. One of the Founders of the Theosophical Society was taught to use Intuitive Mind. So he drifted into it, and the revelation that he revealed was almost identical to Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. In other words, he was years ahead of modern day Quantum Physics. I also saw another thing on YouTube, where the speculation suggested, is that when Scientists accept the fact of Intuitive Mind, then they will discover the mysteries of the Universe. Anyway, what do you think of my thesis? Plausible?



    Ming I totally follow and agree with you on this. Is what a scientist discover something that was pre-existing, is it something he creates himself ( as in the particle that changes the way the observer sees it ) , is it something that was latent, but not sharpened and that the scientist own creativity/intuition coalesces towards its end ? Really fascinating. In the end yes, it's Creator's creation but the process in our 3D, how interesting.
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    Today I was thinking that this guy would really get things like the Law of One and not just science stuff...  and voilà he releases this a couple minutes ago !  Reality really is weirder than fiction. Smile

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    (03-26-2021, 12:19 PM)flofrog Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 06:26 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The problem with "Reality", it is "Unreal". Don't mind me, that is Intuitive Mind talking. The fact is, the statement, (above), came when I was drifting into Intuitive Mind. Very hard to explain unless you are used to being there. You see things. That is not true, you feel things that are unworldly, (yet), at the same time it is part of the Realization. I read something interesting the other day. One of the Founders of the Theosophical Society was taught to use Intuitive Mind. So he drifted into it, and the revelation that he revealed was almost identical to Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. In other words, he was years ahead of modern day Quantum Physics. I also saw another thing on YouTube, where the speculation suggested, is that when Scientists accept the fact of Intuitive Mind, then they will discover the mysteries of the Universe. Anyway, what do you think of my thesis? Plausible?



    Ming I totally follow and agree with you on this.   Is what a scientist discover something that was pre-existing, is it something he creates himself ( as in the article that changes the way the observer sees it ) , is it something that was latent, but not sharpened and  that the scientist own creativity/intuition coalesces towards its end ?    Really fascinating. In the end yes, it's Creator's creation but the process in our 3D, how interesting.

    Important questions. Questions that humans in charge of power, do not seek to answer

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    03-26-2021, 02:23 PM
    That video is just AMAZING ! (in my previous post)

    Our scientists are truly empirically discovering the Law of One right now !!!

    This completely blows my mind !

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    03-26-2021, 02:47 PM
    (03-25-2021, 06:02 PM)flofrog Wrote: I remember reading Michael Talbot's book, Beyond the Quantum, back around 1987 and then I was like addicted so I read Your Past Lives,  and the Holographic Universe.  I didn't wrap my feeble brain completely around his writings but I was so addicted.  Need to re-read.  Too little time.

    (03-26-2021, 12:19 PM)flofrog Wrote:
    (03-25-2021, 06:26 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The problem with "Reality", it is "Unreal". Don't mind me, that is Intuitive Mind talking. The fact is, the statement, (above), came when I was drifting into Intuitive Mind. Very hard to explain unless you are used to being there. You see things. That is not true, you feel things that are unworldly, (yet), at the same time it is part of the Realization. I read something interesting the other day. One of the Founders of the Theosophical Society was taught to use Intuitive Mind. So he drifted into it, and the revelation that he revealed was almost identical to Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. In other words, he was years ahead of modern day Quantum Physics. I also saw another thing on YouTube, where the speculation suggested, is that when Scientists accept the fact of Intuitive Mind, then they will discover the mysteries of the Universe. Anyway, what do you think of my thesis? Plausible?



    Ming I totally follow and agree with you on this.   Is what a scientist discover something that was pre-existing, is it something he creates himself ( as in the particle that changes the way the observer sees it ) , is it something that was latent, but not sharpened and  that the scientist own creativity/intuition coalesces towards its end ?    Really fascinating. In the end yes, it's Creator's creation but the process in our 3D, how interesting.

    Everything is Mind! We are, (literally) what we think. According to the theories I read regarding Intuitive Mind, the past and future are accessible. Strangely, whenever I go to that "Place", (for some strange reason), I always remain in the present. It is not a disinterest, I never really thought about it. Perhaps I am too busy in the present? Then on the other hand, I was more concerned about "Self-Realization" and personal development that it was never considered. I always considered that as the most important aspect in Zen is to reach the highest accolade and Honouring my Teacher. We may have gone our separate ways, but I honour him every day.
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    03-26-2021, 03:00 PM
    (03-26-2021, 02:23 PM)Patrick Wrote: That video is just AMAZING ! (in my previous post)

    Our scientists are truly empirically discovering the Law of One right now !!!

    This completely blows my mind !

    Heart  Heart  Heart

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    The "Law of One" is constantly kicking Scientists in the backside, (except), they cannot, (or are refusing), to see it. The Zen Koan. What is the sound of one hand clapping? The Master hitting the student in the face. This is the problem with Intellectualism and Scientists are Intellectuals. It is the same with Religion, because most Religion is Intellectual based. How many times has somebody gone to a church, and the preacher says, "Use Intuitive Mind"? Never. There is a new unexplored world out there which most people are ignorant of.

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    (03-26-2021, 08:49 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Reverse causality. Quarks are the shadows projected on plato s wall by the true source, prime spirit.

    Quarks, mass, are all illusions layered in photosphop. Strip off the layers.

    Basically what I tell people when science talks about light being waves and/or particles, is that they are never particles, but that is only what we observe due to limited faculties/instrumentation. We cannot 'see/measure' waves, but we can observe what they pass through. So if a wave passes thru a thin slice of paper (single point of observation), it will appear as a dot (particle), but it behaves as a wave simply because that's what it really is.

    One thing that blew me away was when they would map electron cloud fields, the more data points they got, the more it formed geometrical shapes! So the electron circling the nucleus is not a particle (of infinitesimal mass/size) at all, but a snapshot of the wave, and in the atomic structure is really an energetic polyhedron. Super fun rabbit hole to fall thru.
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    I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !
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    It appears as if the ONE works in mysterious ways? Grand Portal? What is that? I will do a search online, you have got me interested? Unification in all things. It is my Quest to bring unification between Religions. When people stop fighting over their differences, and acknowledge they are all worshipping the same God(s), then we will be better off. Although I blame the Hierarchy in most Religions. Too stubborn to change their biased views.

    So ends the sermon.

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    (03-26-2021, 03:39 PM)Patrick Wrote: I'll start a thread on that video and deconstruct it part by part.  They are referencing experiments in there that empirically demonstrate dissociativeness in a way that makes it very clear that we are dissociated mentations of a higher mentation.

    There are many papers out there right now basically demonstrating the Law of One.  I was unaware of that !  The Grand Portal is coming online.  We are crossing that threshold.  I never thought I would witness this during this incarnation.  This is really huge !

    We ait until they fighre out what the earth is
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    Work in progress over there: https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=19027
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    (03-26-2021, 08:49 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Reverse causality. Quarks are the shadows projected on plato s wall by the true source, prime spirit.

    Quarks, mass, are all illusions layered in photosphop. Strip off the layers.

    Well said. To put it into simpler terms, perhaps, mass is a shadow cast on lower densities by the more truer and more undistorted manifestations of Light/Love. This creates the so called physical universe which is an illusion, a shadow from the source.

    (03-26-2021, 11:42 AM)Steppingfeet Wrote:
    (03-26-2021, 03:42 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: Think, what are quarks? They represent certain type of electromagnetic interaction profile and, for example, in their most abundant form tend to gather together in threes to form an even more 'dense' and unique electromagnetic interaction profile and so on. This is called matter. So, as far as I understand, a quark is the smallest manifestation of Light, similarly as the photon is the smallest manifestation of Love in our octave (as they manifest in 3D). Photon is infinite in a sense that it has no mass (although in 3D they are limited by some physical factors like the 'speed of light') while quarks have 'mass' (the question what is mass could go a lot deeper), so they are inherently directed to a purpose due to the 'energy' given to 'them' by sun bodies (in truth they probably form out of this energy spontaneously as will is used). These ideas follow (as far as I understand) Ra's teachings of the first two distortions, but also the scientific knowledge about the existence of these two primal 'particle' types.

    Thanks LeiwoUnion. It would be most interesting to apply the primal distortions to the building blocks of matter and the universe, but forgoing that in favor of time, care to take a shot at what characterizes "beauty quarks" in particular?

    I would not dare to go deeply into such topic, as I'm only barely more into this than the completely uninitiated. Still, I think I can comment it a bit, but I fear the truth is not quite as exciting as it would seem from all the mediasexy names like charm, beauty and truth quarks. Scientists (at LHC) are currently suspecting from the decay data of the impermanent beauty or bottom quark (which is similar to the more 'permanent' down quark of which matter is formed; charge -1/3) that there could be some yet to be measured more exotically charged particles present (aka leptoquarks) during the collision. While ordinary matter is not constituted of bottom/beauty quarks, for example, they are interesting, if only because of their large mass (when compared to up, down and strange quarks) similarly to charm and especially top/truth quark. What does this mean physically, or metaphysically? Who knows, maybe Ra? You could ask Quo, if they would like to share, if there is understanding to be found in the existence of the heavier charm, beauty and truth quarks. While those offer only limited interaction with our physical side of the universe they certainly exist.

    (03-26-2021, 03:02 PM)zedro Wrote: Basically what I tell people when science talks about light being waves and/or particles, is that they are never particles, but that is only what we observe due to limited faculties/instrumentation. We cannot 'see/measure' waves, but we can observe what they pass through. So if a wave passes thru a thin slice of paper (single point of observation), it will appear as a dot (particle), but it behaves as a wave simply because that's what it really is.

    One thing that blew me away was when they would map electron cloud fields, the more data points they got, the more it formed geometrical shapes! So the electron circling the nucleus is not a particle  (of infinitesimal mass/size) at all, but a snapshot of the wave, and in the atomic structure is really an energetic polyhedron. Super fun rabbit hole to fall thru.

    The funny thing about electrons is that for (us) chemists the electron orbitals (as these cloud fields are called) of atoms and molecules have for a long time been taken for granted (long before my time). That is how all chemical reactions occur, via the interaction of these orbitals. For scientists these orbitals are (random) probability fields where on a certain combined probability when two molecules collide a reaction can occur, which in other terms means the merging of two or more orbitals into one, or the splitting of them into whatever number is energetically most favoured. It is obvious that some simple molecular formations have been established eons ago (water, gas molecules etc.) so probabilities favour these over everything else (break a bunch of stuff with plasma and the most you'll get out are those easiest to form). As the molecules grow more complicated, the results of chemical reactions stop being so obvious. There's a massive amount of possibilities in 'a tabula rasa' point of view but over time certain 'facts' start to take precedence. This way chemists have created bit by bit the vast amount of reliable and repeatable reactions by the use of their collective will (in their belief of objective scientific process). To me it is obvious that the primal clouds of electrons, or orbitals, follow the conscious will of those observing or believing in these reactions and produce certain results. I even suspected something like this when I was doing my workings in the lab years ago as an uninformed and sleeping peon of the system, because many experiments just didn't make sense otherwise (of course, I didn't hold this as a true possibility, as I thought there would be some physically more 'sophisticated' way to explain it - go go gadget indoctrination).
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    03-27-2021, 08:30 AM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2021, 08:38 AM by Ymarsakar.)
    "To put it into simpler terms, perhaps, mass is a shadow cast on lower densities by the more truer and more undistorted manifestations of Light/Love. This creates the so called physical universe which is an illusion, a shadow from the source."

    Yes. You understand where this goes.

    " To me it is obvious that the primal clouds of electrons, or orbitals, follow the conscious will of those observing or believing in these reactions and produce certain results. I even suspected something like this when I was doing my workings in the lab years ago as an uninformed and sleeping peon of the system, because many experiments just didn't make sense otherwise (of course, I didn't hold this as a true possibility, as I thought there would be some physically more 'sophisticated' way to explain it - go go gadget indoctrination)."

    To not be able to rely on fundamental laws of physics and chemistry... humans will go bonkers. You are definitely nearing the zone of the sub conscious and unconscious "shadow" there.

    This is the double slit experiment, except "quantum magick" for all phenomenon, even the basic chemical reactions.

    As a proof. What paste did the ancients use that allowed stone to be molded like clay?

    "I even suspected something like this when I was doing my workings in the lab years ago as an uninformed and sleeping peon of the system"

    Back when doing labs on Olms law, we were given the formula and then told to do an experiment on the circuits to get the data. But obviously we knew what the data should show because we have the formula we are trying to prove. So the results that were outliers, what would we do with them, include them as outliers or just remove them?

    Now combine that with "consciousness affects particles in double slit and experimental results of how light behaves" and we have a potential problem for human physics.

    Is this the real reason for the double blind standard and for the fact that placebo effect is real and works to heal people?

    If a person conscious of reality, is able to affect it, how far can reality and timelines be affected by those who are really aware of things?

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