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    Thread: Future Self


    RCh (Offline)

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    #1
    04-11-2021, 11:58 AM
    Hello. I am grateful for being led to this community. Over the past three months, I have been studying the Law of One and the teachings resonate deeply. As I am processing the concept of infinite dimensions and time, I am hoping for validation and a deeper understanding from this collective. Here are a few of my questions that I believe I already have the answers to and also need some validation and reassurance:

    1. I have access and always have had access to my future self?
    2. My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?
    3. My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?

    Thank you for your light and love.
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    #2
    04-11-2021, 12:38 PM (This post was last modified: 04-11-2021, 12:40 PM by Patrick.)
    Welcome my friend.

    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?

    Yes although while we are veiled here this access mostly takes the form of intuition and inspiration, which can become quite extraordinary when your connection gets stronger.

    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?

    Indeed and your higher-self is not someone else. It really is you. It is you acting from a much larger point of view.

    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?

    Yes, maybe this comment from another member can help shed some understanding on this seeming paradox.

    (09-07-2012, 09:23 AM)Raz Wrote: I believe that the result is there; we experience it as the "future attractor". This reality is like an equation or prequel, designed to create a deeper understanding of that result.

    So then your higher-self is already complete and the current incarnated you is creating a deeper understanding of that result.
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    04-11-2021, 01:28 PM
    Quote:1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?
    If the word "Future Self" here means "Over Self", "Higher Self", "Atman", "Holy Spirit", "Ruach Ha Kodesh", "Ruhul Kudush".
    Then yes, you always have access.

    Yet there's a 'feature' that you can choose, out of your own free will, to "block that access".
    You will always observe your own will, so when you choose to "going Rambo" by being 'separated' through 'blocking the access', you will definitely granted yourself that feature / luxury.

    That 'block feature' however will not block the 'read only access' from your 'greater self' to your 'lesser self', because your 'lesser self' is streaming / writing the experience to the same set of memory that your 'greater self' has access to.

    In short the block feature will not work to 'block' any knowledge / information / experience collected from your 'lesser self' to the 'greater self'. Your 'greater self' might not send data / information to 'your lesser self' but your 'greater self' will always know your 'lesser self' life experience in every details.

    Quote:2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?

    Yes you're always with you, including during your deepest darkest experience in your current life.

    Quote:3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?
    In a way yes..

    As a metaphor, imagine the higher self as the "Novel Author" and the lesser selves are all the characters (and events) inside the novel. The author can choose to jump around towards any point of space and time in that novel. As the story inside novel has it's own context of space and time.
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    #4
    04-11-2021, 02:52 PM
    (04-11-2021, 12:38 PM)Patrick Wrote: Welcome my friend.

    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?

    Yes although while we are veiled here this access mostly takes the form of intuition and inspiration, which can become quite extraordinary when your connection gets stronger.

    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?

    Indeed and your higher-self is not someone else. It really is you. It is you acting from a much larger point of view.

    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?

    Yes, maybe this comment from another member can help shed some understanding on this seeming paradox.

    (09-07-2012, 09:23 AM)Raz Wrote: I believe that the result is there; we experience it as the "future attractor". This reality is like an equation or prequel, designed to create a deeper understanding of that result.

    So then your higher-self is already complete and the current incarnated you is creating a deeper understanding of that result.

    Thank you for your response.
    Warmly,
    Ryann
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    #5
    04-11-2021, 02:54 PM
    (04-11-2021, 01:28 PM)jafar Wrote:
    Quote:1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?
    If the word "Future Self" here means "Over Self", "Higher Self", "Atman", "Holy Spirit", "Ruach Ha Kodesh", "Ruhul Kudush".
    Then yes, you always have access.

    Yet there's a 'feature' that you can choose, out of your own free will, to "block that access".
    You will always observe your own will, so when you choose to "going Rambo" by being 'separated' through 'blocking the access', you will definitely granted yourself that feature / luxury.

    That 'block feature' however will not block the 'read only access' from your 'greater self' to your 'lesser self', because your 'lesser self' is streaming / writing the experience to the same set of memory that your 'greater self' has access to.

    In short the block feature will not work to 'block' any knowledge / information / experience collected from your 'lesser self' to the 'greater self'. Your 'greater self' might not send data / information to 'your lesser self' but your 'greater self' will always know your 'lesser self' life experience in every details.

    Quote:2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?

    Yes you're always with you, including during your deepest darkest experience in your current life.

    Quote:3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?
    In a way yes..

    As a metaphor, imagine the higher self as the "Novel Author" and the lesser selves are all the characters (and events) inside the novel. The author can choose to jump around towards any point of space and time in that novel. As the story inside novel has it's own context of space and time.

    Your metaphors were extremely helpful. Thank you for your response.
    Warmly,
    Ryann

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    04-11-2021, 03:16 PM
    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: Hello. I am grateful for being led to this community.  Over the past three months, I have been studying the Law of One and the teachings resonate deeply.  As I am processing the concept of infinite dimensions and time, I am hoping for validation and a deeper understanding from this collective.  Here are a few of my questions that I believe I already have the answers to and also need some validation and reassurance:

    1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?
    2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?
    3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?

    Thank you for your light and love.

    Yes, with caveats. How synched up you are depends on your free will and vibration. So if you hate yourself, kinda hard for future to do anything to you
    2. Yes. If only as passive observer. They know your experiences. Like you remembering your past child self.

    3. From the pov of a god distant future you, yes. From this pov, no.
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    04-14-2021, 12:09 PM
    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: Hello. I am grateful for being led to this community.  Over the past three months, I have been studying the Law of One and the teachings resonate deeply.  As I am processing the concept of infinite dimensions and time, I am hoping for validation and a deeper understanding from this collective.  Here are a few of my questions that I believe I already have the answers to and also need some validation and reassurance:

    1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?
    2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?
    3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?

    Thank you for your light and love.

    From my current understanding:

    1. Yes, simultaneously with your past selves, in a 3D standpoint. This means all your incarnations are occurring concurrently, and your consciousness is usually focused on the one you have current 3D access to. This is so so that the balancing process might occur more efficiently in 3D, according to the Logos original plan. I personally disagree with this method as its terrible inefficiency can be paired with the last Earthen catastrophes such as the Atlantean and the Egyptian.

    2. Not with: it was, is, and will be you, simultaneously. To integrate your own Self is the point of such ludicrous experience.

    3. Yes.

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    04-14-2021, 12:27 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2021, 12:27 PM by flofrog.)
    Welcome here RCh, Smile

    After all these great answers you got, I shall just add this as your post made me think of it, about the simultaneity.

    Long before I got to the LOO I remember reading in Neal Walsh, Conversations with God, this interesting little image about time and incarnations. It said more or less, if you look at all your incarnations, imagine a pole and on this pole are glued all the tiny strips of papers representing each incarnation. If you face the pole you see the strips looking from left to right, if you look at the pole from one of its extremities, you see them all together. I thought that was an interesting image of how time exists in space/time and time/space.. BigSmile

    Happy journey !
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    04-14-2021, 01:09 PM (This post was last modified: 04-16-2021, 07:08 PM by Diana.)
    (04-14-2021, 12:27 PM)flofrog Wrote: Welcome here RCh, Smile

    After all these great answers you got, I shall just add this as your post made me think of it, about the simultaneity.

    Long before I got to the LOO I remember reading in Neal Walsh, Conversations with God, this interesting little image about time and incarnations.  It said more or less, if you look at all your incarnations, imagine a pole and on this pole are glued all the tiny strips of papers representing each incarnation. If you face the pole you see the strips looking from left to right, if you look at the pole from one of its extremities, you see them all together.  I thought that was an interesting image of how time exists in space/time and time/space..   BigSmile

    Happy journey !

    This relates to the idea of vertical time. Smile

    There is a thought experiment whereby one is standing at a train station. One only sees the train as it comes into the station, and when the train leaves, one sees it disappear at a certain point. One does not see the past of the train path, or the future of the train path. But if one is standing on a hill or mountaintop, far above the train station, one can presumably see the train in its entire path (past, present, future).
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    04-14-2021, 01:59 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2021, 02:06 PM by zedro.)
    (04-11-2021, 11:58 AM)RCh Wrote: 1.  I have access and always have had access to my future self?
    2.  My future self has actually been with me in those moments of my deepest, darkest experiences in my present life?
    3.  My future and past incarnates are all happening simultaneously?

    Thank you for your light and love.

    1. Limited access, your higher self deems what is necessary and allowed (since this is a giant integrated system, and there is karma, etc). #3 clarifies this.

    2. Your future self is in time/space, so the past is just conceptual, future you is always viewing yourself, like an active/live memory.

    3. Not really, evolution is procedural (as is time/space), so while the higher self could view all incarnations, there is an order in learning. So 'cave-man' you did happen before 'enlightened-you', because your mind/body/spirit evolution requires the procedure of time and experience. However the perception in time/space (where time IS the space) for the higher self is instantaneous, like a living library or database of experience, and some editing (help) may occur to tweak the outcomes (maximise potential) as the greater Logos operates like a type of recursive program. This is why #1 is limited, because while you can create some paradoxes, they need to be stable (self contained, or manifold) or the whole system gets gamed and doesn't work. Think of it as time travel, you could make small adjustments to your past to make your life better, as long as it didn't interfere with others in a detrimental or non-agreed upon way. So you couldn't go back and kill your parents, nor could you make yourself win the lottery unless all those affected agreed that this was a more ideal outcome when all logoic impacts are determined (butterfly effect). So theoretically very subtle inputs could be made to maximise your spiritual evolutionary potential without negatively(unwanted) impacts to others.
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    04-16-2021, 06:30 PM
    The future is important and if you can see it, then you are in a special place, (we should all be so lucky). As somebody who would suffer pseudo-jealousy for such a gift, (I won't because that is immoral). Seeing the future is good, (and it has value). More importantly, we can only live in the present, and the present moment. See your "Future Self" as a gift, and do let it be the object that rules your life. Self-Realization can only happen when we change moment by moment, and the future still remains a myriad of possibilities from a single action. The right decision, or the wrong decision in one moment can change your destiny.

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    04-16-2021, 07:31 PM (This post was last modified: 04-16-2021, 07:37 PM by Raukura Waihaha.)
    Just because you mean well or believe you're right, doesn't mean it's beneficial for yourself, or the collective. It can take you in the opposite direction of your intention.
    Yahweh's "help" with the Martians is probably a fitting example.

    EDIT Lol that was supposed to be in the "road to hell is paved with good intentions" thread. I don't know how I hit reply n ended up here. Maybe I'll edit in a response to the OP later

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