The mysterious nature of time

[Confused]

The Dark Moon

Astrology and the Dark Moon

[Confused]

Why does the One Infinite Creator allow so much pain? I do not understand. They say Time is the best healer. But in my case, it is not proving to be so!

[kycahi]

Why does the One Infinite Creator allow so much pain? I do not understand. They say Time is the best healer. But in my case, it is not proving to be so!

The simple and unsatisfactory answer is to be a catalyst. What type of pain in particular--arthritis, muscle, headache, other?

Later added: You can always address your higher self in any way, including like this: "Dammit, HS, WTF?? Why am I suffering like this? How about a clue? I promise to be attentive to your thoughtful response." Then try some ways to get the answer, like use meditation to tune your receiver, notice a "sign" when you go over a possible reason, and before dozing off tell yourself to notice and remember anything that might come through during sleep.

Needless to say, denial is not an option: if HS says stop doing some bad habit, then obey or suffer worse consequences. This is the blessing of instant karma.

[Confused]

Thanks Kycahi and Oceania. Very kind of you two to respond. I am just in a very tough mental place. I do not know whether I am projecting my own insane darkness onto others and blaming them. But when I check with reality, I know that is not true. I only wish I had a more simpler existence!

[Confused]

Ra made the following statement in an exchange --

104.5 Questioner: Can you tell us what is wrong with our cat’s, Gandalf’s, eyes?

Ra: I am Ra. The one known as Gandalf nears the end of its incarnation. Its eyesight dims and the aqueous membrane becomes tough. This is not a comfortable circumstance, but is one which causes the entity no true discomfort.

How did Ra know Gandalf was nearing his/her end? Was it pre-determined? Did Ra know exactly how Gandalf was to die, or was it a generic statement? What do you guys think?

I am very curious abut this. And how did Ra know Gandalf's level of physical comfort and discomfort? Can Ra feel our pain to know it and make definitive statements about it?. How exactly was it all possible from time/space of a 6D being to space/time of 2D entity? The Ra material goes very very deep.

[kycahi]

Gandalf was a senior citizen cat. When Don and Carla bonded on a serious level, Gandy was a kitten. He lived a long time and both Don and Carla, later with Jim, seriously adored that wonderful animal. That's why they reached to Ra for an answer. If Ra said take him out of his misery they probably would, because they didn't want him to be in agony. So when Ra said his discomfort wasn't so bad, they were glad to know that.

I speculate that Don and Carla perceived a lot more about Gandalf than they were consciously aware of, and Ra tapped into that data. I wouldn't be surprised though, if Ra really had a certain presence in their household, especially if/when they asked for it.

When Don and Carla traveled to the Philippines to investigate psychic surgery and years before the Ra contact, I house-sat in order to look after Gandalf and his mate Gerry.

This topic is pulling up some old and tender memories. For example, they bore a litter of kittens and Gerry turned out not to be a good mother. The vet recommended to have her fixed, so Carla agreed to that procedure. Before this, the female had a particular trait: she was in heat a lot of time. This meant that Gandy had it real good as a male cat. Unfortunately after the vet fixed Gerry, she no longer had interest in sex and Gandy was seriously confused and frustrated. The vet said that now she should also fix Gandalf. Carla had a real hard time agreeing to that but didn't know why. I said, "It's because you're female and you don't want to see any male lose his balls, even your cat." She thought that could be it. I don't know what made me say that, by the way.

When all alone, she sat in the living room crying and said, "Gandalf, I don't know what to do. I hate to have you altered, but I don't know any other choice." He jumped up from the floor, put his paws on her chest and licked the tears off her cheeks. She took that as a message from him that it'll be all right, and she went ahead with the procedure. He lived a long and contented life after that. My eyes are moist right now.

[Confused]

Raman is such a solicitous soul! I enjoy the energies of concern. Hey, here is an excellent video from BBC that I though is interesting --

What is reality?

Here is the blurb from that --

There is a strange and mysterious world that surrounds
us, a world largely hidden from our senses. The quest to
explain the true nature of reality is one of the great
scientific detective stories. Clues have been pieced
together from deep within the atom, from the event
horizon of black holes, and from the far reaches of the
cosmos. It may be that that we are part of a cosmic
hologram, projected from the edge of the universe.
Or that we exist in an infinity of parallel worlds.
Your reality may never look quite the same again.

[Confused]

Talking about parallel universes, what does Ra mean here exactly (the shaded portion to be more precise)? Any thoughts --

36.4 Questioner: Do I understand from this then that the Higher Self or Oversoul may break down into numerous units if the experience is required to what we would call simultaneously experience different types of catalysts and then oversee these experiences?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time. True simultaneity is available only when all things are seen to be occurring at once. This overshadows the concept of which you speak. The concept of various parts of the being living experiences of varying natures simultaneously is not precisely accurate due to your understanding that this would indicate that this was occurring with true simultaneity. This is not the case.

The case is from universe to universe and parallel existences can then be programmed by the Higher Self, given the information available from the mind/body/spirit complex totality regarding the probability/possibility vortices at any crux.

[3DMonkey]

To reduce it to its core- Ra is saying that existence is in infinity.


My/our curiosity about it is what a tiny little part, of our mind/body/spirit complex totality, that we refer to as our current existence really is. We think it to be so 'full' because of everything we experience with our senses. This Ra quote reminds us that all we are is dust in the wind.

[Confused]

This parallel worlds concept is very confusing for me. I hope more can share their light with me. I remember Ra saying somewhere that more in balance an entity is, then lesser the need to explore parallel worlds. What is all this? I fail to understand. Can anyone help?

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Have you read more on the subject, 3?

[3DMonkey]

No reading. Meditation, yes.

Here's a thought. Two strangers pass each other. Their thoughts involve one another. In this universe, their thoughts are kept to themselves. In the parallel, they are expressed and experienced. So, in a way, the thoughts were manifested.

Now, their ability to balance these expressionistic thoughts of this universe enables a lesser need for manifestation in a parallel.

[Confused]

I read the below two days ago and it brought tears in my eyes.

Q'uo, September 22nd, 1991:

We shall meet again. The illusion which you call time will speed very quickly and we shall be with you. ...

Ankh, thanks for sharing sister. It is always a grand experience to soak in your words of love, encouragement and support. Thank you.

But I have a question for those interested. What does Q'uo mean in terms of illusion of time speeding up quickly. And this transmission was made in 1991, a time before all this really caught wide public imagination.

Any thoughts?

[3DMonkey]

Time is pretty much user defined. When we have a high adrenaline experience, and reflect on the details of that experience, we generally get the feeling that time slowed down around us (or in other words, our perception sped up).

The phrase "time speeds up" can have two meanings. Someone may say it and intend to mean that his Self is moving fast and his surrounding environment is in 'slow motion'. OR, Someone may say it to mean that his Self is standing still while everything he witnesses speeds by.

I hope, if we get into a discussion about this, that we will clarify our meaning in this way. (albeit, we can't know what Q'uo means themselves, only what the reader of Q'uo perceives them to mean)

[Confused]

The phrase "time speeds up" can have two meanings. Someone may say it and intend to mean that his Self is moving fast and his surrounding environment is in 'slow motion'. OR, Someone may say it to mean that his Self is standing still while everything he witnesses speeds by.

With respect to that observation of the self, I think as a function of time, its perspective varies widely. For instance, Ra says in 70.12:

In time/space, which is precisely as much of your self as is space/time, all times are simultaneous just as, in your geography, your cities and villages are all functioning, bustling, and alive with entities going about their business at once. So it is in time/space with the self.

I completely fail to understand Ra's analogy there, with respect to the self's perspective of time and bustling cities.

[3DMonkey]

A city, in space/time, has three dimensional space operated by many entities all at once.

Time/space has three dimensional time operated. That means all three directions of times. To me, this means future/past, right/left or parallel, and up/down or alternate.

To repeat. A space/time city has numerous entities moving anywhere in space. A time/space 'city' has numerous entities moving anywhere in time.

Next question we might ask is, 'why does Ra finish with the phrase "with the self" '
I would think it is because, with all directions of time, the Self is a totality. Therefore, time/space offers all the 'pieces' of the Totality Self to bustle about. I am a 'piece' of my Totality Self.

[3DMonkey]

??!! what is this totality self? Are there several pieces of me strewn around. The same was said in the BBC video as well, which I linked earlier. I completely was not able to get my head around it.

For all intents and purposes to this discussion, the Totality Self is the Sixth/Seventh Density you. All together. It is the idea that all the incarnations of the pasts, futures, parallels, and alternates that you have/will/are going through make up One you. This is the you that is accessible in time/space. Yes, your life as Confused is a small piece of T. You.

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That is where the analogy to a busy city in space/time comes into play.

The way I wrap my head around it is to imagine myself a small cell in my biological body. I am a red blood cell and my body is the Totality Self.

[zenmaster]

Here's an off-the-wall notion on the subject of the perception of 'time' as being affected by biology. My understanding is that our perception of 'time' is greatly influenced by the brain mechanism or the particular (genetic-based) interconnect between body and mind. According to Ra, 'Bigfoot' has full 3D consciousness, but in a 2D body. According to my understanding on the nature of these beings, for some reason, their time/space and space/time orientation is biased heavily towards time/space, in such a way as to provide a 'hyper-feeling' awareness. That is, their feeling faculty is incredibly expansive and penetrating (relative to 3D awareness). This hyper-feeling seems to provide a protective mechanism as they are keenly aware of 3D beings' presence and the nature, value, and purpose for any appurtenance (but without technical/analytical knowledge, due to ongoing penance).

[3DMonkey]

Here's an off-the-wall notion on the subject of the perception of 'time' as being affected by biology. My understanding is that our perception of 'time' is greatly influenced by the brain mechanism or the particular (genetic-based) interconnect between body and mind. According to Ra, 'Bigfoot' has full 3D consciousness, but in a 2D body. According to my understanding on the nature of these beings, for some reason, their time/space and space/time orientation is biased heavily towards time/space, in such a way as to provide a 'hyper-feeling' awareness. That is, their feeling faculty is incredibly expansive and penetrating (relative to 3D awareness). This hyper-feeling seems to provide a protective mechanism as they are keenly aware of 3D beings' presence and the nature, value, and purpose for any appurtenance (but without technical/analytical knowledge, due to ongoing penance).

Suweet.

I'm not sure why that's about time, but it is great to read it. You do have a knack for articulating my thoughts.

[Confused]

??!! what is this totality self? Are there several pieces of me strewn around. The same was said in the BBC video as well, which I linked earlier. I completely was not able to get my head around it.

For all intents and purposes to this discussion, the Totality Self is the Sixth/Seventh Density you. All together. It is the idea that all the incarnations of the pasts, futures, parallels, and alternates that you have/will/are going through make up One you. This is the you that is accessible in time/space. Yes, your life as Confused is a small piece of T. You.

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That is where the analogy to a busy city in space/time comes into play.

The way I wrap my head around it is to imagine myself a small cell in my biological body. I am a red blood cell and my body is the Totality Self.

Then it brings us to the same old question. Is the future already known? Is freewill itself a cruel illusion, for if the future already exists in some vibrational strength, then what is all the fuss about? Cruel cruel joke.

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This hyper-feeling seems to provide a protective mechanism as they are keenly aware of 3D beings' presence and the nature, value, and purpose for any appurtenance (but without technical/analytical knowledge, due to ongoing penance).

I am not sure I understand that, especially the last part.

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By the way, nice analogy of the cells, 3. I understood much through that example. Thanks.

[3DMonkey]

The second quote is zenmaster's.

As for the future being set, it is. BUT, it is not linear as pessimism suggests. It can be explored infinitly, and it will be. The free will is what creates the future. It's not so much that the future you will experience is already determined (although it has already happened), it is that you are creating it.

Optimism would remind us of all the parallels and alternatives that are possible. For instance, which parallel existence will you follow? Every moment is a new parallel path of your existence. Infinity leaves no stone unturned.

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Bustling bustling

[Aaron]

As for the future being set, it is. BUT, it is not linear as pessimism suggests. It can be explored infinitly, and it will be. The free will is what creates the future. It's not so much that the future you will experience is already determined (although it has already happened), it is that you are creating it.

"Potentiation"

[Ankh]

??!! what is this totality self? Are there several pieces of me strewn around. The same was said in the BBC video as well, which I linked earlier. I completely was not able to get my head around it.

Somehow I've always loved the below quote by Ra. It feels that it just makes sense. The totality of the self, looking back and that is simultaneously with being the lesser 3D self having perception of time moving forward; this just makes a perfect circle of time and being. And the same is with the Free Will and that everything is known. All the roads are known, you will become this beautiful Higher Self as the first stop, where you will no longer be part of the time, like Ra, and later you move in the totality of the self, and yet there is a total Free Will before that.

The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth-density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank of memory of experience, thoughts, and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

In this way you may see your self, your Higher Self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being.

[Confused]

Are you sure you want to see it? :@

Yes, I do.

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Can someone please explain the first four lines of the quote, please? I find that entire thing very tough (future selfness, last action before turning towards creator, et al).

It is not clear to me which quote you mean.

Dear Ankh,

I meant this --

The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth-density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank of memory of experience, thoughts, and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

[kycahi]

Dear Ankh,

I meant this --

The Higher Self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth-density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank of memory of experience, thoughts, and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

I'll make an attempt. A Higher Self is also called other things, like guardian angel and future self. For it to "exist at the same time" as us means that the higher densities have better viewing of time than we do, obviously.

So the 7th density self, about to finish that density and indeed the whole octave of densities, hands off to its mid-6D self the bundle of responsibilities and privileges of Higher Self. A very pitiful analog I can think of is my college graduate self giving my college freshman self a car. It's poor, but the best I came up with.

The 6D self must have plenty to do, but it has enough cycles to devote to being a guardian angel for 3D and probably 4D and 5D too. When it moves through 7D, it then hands off HS duties to its 6D self and so on.

I'm not claiming to really get this concept, just trying to translate what Ra said.

[Confused]

I'll make an attempt. A Higher Self is also called other things, like guardian angel and future self.

Is it also part of the collective mental consciousness of the universe, since the universe is mental (borrowing from a famous Hermetic phrase)? --

Collective Unconscious (Consciousness), Collective Thought Forms,...

[zenmaster]

I agree with what he says, except that at the local (planetary / racial mind) level, the 'collective unconscious' is not on a 'higher plane of existence'. It is at the same level as our 3D consciousness.

[Confused]

It is at the same level as our 3D consciousness.

Any idea how we can access it? Or who holds the keys to it, so that we can seek their help to access it?

And can we escape this illusion by accessing it?

[zenmaster]

The key to accessing the 'planetary consciousness' seems to be 'blue ray', or a certain degree of honesty. I've only attempted it once, when it seemed like the natural thing to do, for some reason. It is an intelligence - like another part of you, in that it seems to be a part of you due to familiar feeling, but it's a distinct intelligence. That is, it has the same type of feeling of presence that you get with the company of another individual. But it is a shared 'telepathic' link - well, at least that's how I experienced it. Everything I wanted to know was there. And the mere thought of an idea was 'answered' from something that seemed to almost be my own thoughts, in that the symbolism and memories used were my own, yet it was this 'shared mind' or 'presence'. Extremely efficient and no translation or filtering needed.

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In my opinion, you don't want to 'escape the illusion', but rather use it as a tool for further polarization. You can do it now, or do it later. I mean, 6th density entities come here to balance themselves, or 'refine their biases' on lessons they didn't quite get. First and foremost, the simple concepts outline by Ra in 5.2 are a great guide to work with the catalyst offered by this opportunity.

[Confused]

...the simple concepts outline by Ra in 5.2 are a great guide to work with the catalyst offered by this opportunity.

zen, I am very happy that you bought up 5.2

I have always been intrigued by its contents. I do not understand it completely. Will you help me deconstruct it bit by bit, albeit, to the best of your ability/understanding?

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If any other folks would like to help me with 5.2, I would be grateful too.

[3DMonkey]

Our, yes OUR, Higher Self is, yes IS, helping us now, yes RIGHT NOW.

Access is granted. "Three points on a circle".

So, this sucky ass s*** makes our higher self a big jerk, right? Heck yeah. Big jerk. But guess what? It is us and the mentality of of being ticked off at OurSelf is a jerk.

What we are drowning in is what we need. If we want conscious access to our Higher Self, we must accept that WE ARE OUR HIGHER SELF.

(I yell out of love. Much much much love. You know that)