More Elenin

[Ruth]

Thank you Odinn, are you the one who posted that link in another thread? I don't like it when I can't give the correct person credit. That seems to be important to many folks in this forum. I've always been interested in solar activity, but not enough to really study the science of it.

Pickle - I sincerely do believe that there are other beings, planets, animals, locations in other dimensions near us, in us, around us . . . . isn't that what the Ra material says? I'm also a fan of finding truth in fiction! So stories like CS Lewis Chronicles of Narnia- which is completely about another dimension; CS Lewis space trilogy - which discusses beings from another dimension; and the tv show Fringe - which is about our interaction with a parallel universe . . . all touch on this concept.

I think that by the time we can really understand it, we won't care so much. Meanwhile . . .

I love you guys!

[Odinn]

Ok here is what I found. Can you imagine a planet of another density, possibly not being visible to us? Along with its inhabitants also not visible to us, unless they willed it of course. 4th density ability.

Now think of this other planet being right next to our planet, only it is a different density. Theoretically we would be visible to them, but we would not see them. Imagine if the crossover took place in this fashion. They could just appear suddenly on this planet.

Pretty weird thought but someone sent it to me the instant I wondered how Nibiru could possibly be seen by cameras and not us. Telepathy has popped up again. Might be the solar flares.

That was the idea shown in The Event, more or less; also in a movie, Transformers 3.

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Thank you Odinn, are you the one who posted that link in another thread? I don't like it when I can't give the correct person credit. That seems to be important to many folks in this forum. I've always been interested in solar activity, but not enough to really study the science of it.

You're welcome, Ruth (not sure about that link in another thread, sorry)

Pickle - I sincerely do believe that there are other beings, planets, animals, locations in other dimensions near us, in us, around us . . . . isn't that what the Ra material says? I'm also a fan of finding truth in fiction! So stories like CS Lewis Chronicles of Narnia- which is completely about another dimension; CS Lewis space trilogy - which discusses beings from another dimension; and the tv show Fringe - which is about our interaction with a parallel universe . . . ll touch on this concept.

I think that by the time we can really understand it, we won't care so much. Meanwhile . . .

I love you guys!

Can't help but remember The Golden Compass - at some point a carriage appears, drawn not by horses but a small device, which looks exactly like the spherical spinning ship in another interesting movie, Contact.

[Ruth]

Contact & Golden Compass are both among my favorite movies. At the moment I'm ironing and watching Bruce Almighty. Not exactly the alternate universe/dimension thing, except for how God appears to Bruce, and the scenes in the "heaven" inside the abandoned warehouse building.

Anyone know where we can verify if/when we receive those glancing blows from the sun's energy? I was, as I said, busy ironing and received a GREAT BIG WAVE of love. Just wondered if the Sun sent it along.

[BrownEye]

http://www.space.com/13590-killler-super...-2012.html

"will 2012 affect solar flares?"

Make sense? Shouldn't it read "solar flares affect 2012"?

[3DMonkey]

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap111108.html



... and YU55

[apeiron]

I'm sure some of you have heard about 'El Hierro" island (Canary Islands). They have installed a couple of cameras where all this ordeal is taking place. It seems they take a while to load, but if you want to take a look here they are:

http://www.hierroendirecto.movistar.es/

[BrownEye]

Found this interesting from the CHANI project.

u play cern you make dark matters portal
portal make easy me come yor line time

yes u leaders play dark maters line times colide
u ask yor leaders stop play cern now stop play dark maters ok

yor leaders get desperat want escape try use cern but make things worsening (in regards to cosmicsonicboom)

me aswer like this
when big rock like planet comes and hit
then place where cern is and place where pyramid in georgia is wil form new line conect
this new line wil becoming yor new equator
yor humans from old israel know this
jerusalem wil be new city on new 33 degree line
this is very secret knowledge of ancient time

[Ruth]

Interesting, Pickle.

[loop]

we can do a petition @WhiteHouse.gov for CERN to stop

I too want them to stop and that's been like this for long time. But I'm also sure that there are forces that can make CERN stop at will, if that will really be harmful for those of us who realize the risk potential.

[loop]

Again the entertaining Mythi channel, this time there are images of what is claimed to be Nibiru seen closed to the Sun



there are few more recent short videos in this fairy tale like channel. Fun nonetheless

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wow, and the most recent session is speaking about an even new planet, which is supposingly about to become a "major player" in our solar system



What do we know, huh

[BrownEye]

I actually came across another person mentioning communications with a "comet" in the 90s. I am very curious.

[BrownEye]

http://thechaniproject.com/forum/index.p...356.0.html

[apeiron]

http://thechaniproject.com/forum/index.p...356.0.html

So what is your "thesis" about all this? I thought this comet or whatever it is/was disintegrated over a month ago.

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Are you saying that Elenin "is" Steins?

[BrownEye]

The mention of "hearing" it sparked my interest. I had a direct communication with something identifying itself as "with" elenin. I had others check that I was actually in communication and not just going nuts. Also, the disintegration mention was interesting, as it was posted in early August, before it "disintegrated".. And I have seen images of the sun with, I think it was 5 objects around the sun, very near it.

Go into detail about a few of these surprises
No doom from elenin. its not a comet, or not totally just a comet.

So why are you telling us this? What can we benefit from what you know? Just tell us what you obviously want to tell, but are afraid to
go look up e class asteroids. also look up the ESA's rosetta mission to steins. where magically the high res cameras just happened to fail. and there is your answer. sorry i can't be more direct. but this one is a bit more operational and is talking. someone savvy will be able to 'hear' it pretty soon. there will be no denying that history isn't what we've been told. but much more interesting. no doom. just something pretty neat coming. i have said enough.

so what are you talking about happening like first contact or something like that?
as far as elenin, i just hope we have some ham radio operators out there who can listen to to it. we need to learn about ourselves and our heritage. elenin may help with this.

OP, this crop circle represents the interception of Elenin by an antimatter weapon orbiting the Sun. It will depolarise Elenin's EM field represented by the small rocked thunderbolt at the tip of Apophis head and render the asteroid benin against Earth's EM field. I doubt the Navy Space Command has such a powerfull device to fulfill the work.
[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]
[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]
if it is destroyed, that would be a travesty. there are some out there who could do this. i just hope whoever is making the crop circles is wrong about this one. elenin has been given a lot of doom and gloom press.
it is quite the opposite. a beacon of hope and a glimpse into the past. a glimpse into who we really are perhaps, from all the clues that have been gathered. our guys are going wild like school children on xmas eve when it comes to this thing. i'd love to go back myself.

[apeiron]

What do you suppose Elenin was?
And what could this "disintegration" (you put this on quotes) mean?

Do you think this source is reliable?

Interesting about this crop circle. Do you have a link to the exact image?

[BrownEye]

I think the "elenin" name may apply to something else besides just the "comet". I have not researched the structures that are sitting next to our sun. And I did not get to see the CC link before it was taken down.

I have seen the image once, with five objects just off the surface of the sun, somewhat like these images. Only, the image I saw before they were evenly distributed around the sun. http://translate.google.com.ar/translate...=&ie=UTF-8

Also, the CHANI text I have seen came up with the same accuracy I get from LOO.

One thing I have noticed, many different channeled sources will omit specifics. But combined it really does start to fill in blanks.
Others have named them Klingons LoL.

[apeiron]

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Others have named them Klingons LoL.

Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek creator), seemingly was part of this group in 1974-75 and attended channeling sessions:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/har...ortean.htm

Some old Star Trek episodes really blow my mind.

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By the way any knowledge about what Don thought this "Spectra" was/is?

21.4 Questioner: I had already determined to exclude him from these workings. I had only determined to let him read the material. The only other thing that I have noticed within the material as it exists now there is a certain statement that will allow him to understand who I believe Spectra really was. It seems to be my duty to remove this from his knowledge to preserve the same free will that you attempted to preserve by not naming the origin of the Spectra contact in Israel. Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a matter for your discretion.

Category: People: Andrija Puharich

[BrownEye]

By the way any knowledge about what Don thought this "Spectra" was/is?

At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel 'Spectra' - an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/har...ortean.htm

[apeiron]

By the way any knowledge about what Don thought this "Spectra" was/is?

At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel 'Spectra' - an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/har...ortean.htm

Don't think so. Seems Puharich knew this from the beginning from that same channeling. I am referring to what Don implies in that Q/A with Ra.

Seems there is some cosmic drama going on.

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I will need to review the first re-listened 21 Q/A.

[loop]

Pickle, have you seen the video claiming that a new planet is joining our Solar system?

It reminds me of a recent story, which i think i saw referred from another thread in Olio which was on GLP or chani, i think. It was about a family who's few years old kid was saying that his home planet is coming, but is still behind the sun and cannot be seen.

It all seems like sci-fi story, but i made a link, which might mean something ...

[BrownEye]

When I tried to find another planet all I got was that one will appear next to us, from another dimension. I did not get any more details. Hmm, I wonder what kind of magnetic/polarity effect other dimensions have on us?


One of my earlier experiments was to figure out the background of the moon. (previous to reading anything about the moon) A lot of channeled info I am recently finding matches what I found.

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Don't think so. Seems Puharich knew this from the beginning from that same channeling. I am referring to what Don implies in that Q/A with Ra.

Seems there is some cosmic drama going on.

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I will need to review the first re-listened 21 Q/A.

I am lost as to what you are talking about. "Spectra" is new to me.

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Hummm, as soon as I asked about spectra a loud ringing hit my right ear. It is still in orbit, still being channeled, is a machine, and is on a craft alongside organic beings. Also appears to have been created by positive polarity beings. Not sure how this would fit with what is known, but that is as far as I got before ego disconnected me. When I checked to see if gov was channeling it I was blocked. I will read up on it and see what is known.

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Ah, so far I think this may be a touchy subject. Not even 5 minutes after checking, I received some sort of piercing/cording attempt. Seems it came from the same source I was blocked from asking about.

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Hey isn't Uri a fake?

[apeiron]

When I tried to find another planet all I got was that one will appear next to us, from another dimension. I did not get any more details. Hmm, I wonder what kind of magnetic/polarity effect other dimensions have on us?


One of my earlier experiments was to figure out the background of the moon. (previous to reading anything about the moon) A lot of channeled info I am recently finding matches what I found.

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Don't think so. Seems Puharich knew this from the beginning from that same channeling. I am referring to what Don implies in that Q/A with Ra.

Seems there is some cosmic drama going on.

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I will need to review the first re-listened 21 Q/A.

I am lost as to what you are talking about. "Spectra" is new to me.

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Hummm, as soon as I asked about spectra a loud ringing hit my right ear. It is still in orbit, still being channeled, is a machine, and is on a craft alongside organic beings. Also appears to have been created by positive polarity beings. Not sure how this would fit with what is known, but that is as far as I got before ego disconnected me. When I checked to see if gov was channeling it I was blocked. I will read up on it and see what is known.

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Ah, so far I think this may be a touchy subject. Not even 5 minutes after checking, I received some sort of piercing/cording attempt. Seems it came from the same source I was blocked from asking about.

Kinda of weird maybe nothing but I felt "pushed" to follow up on this and posting after you. Indigo area became very active and I got one of those moments that I have to stop everything and feel the energy flowing unable to do anything else. Weird but "normal" and "felt good" as usually happens.

[BrownEye]

Reading this, and it's fairly interesting. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ra_mat..._ufo07.htm

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It isn't part of LOO but the address has "ra_material" in it.

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LoL nevermind, went back a page and here it is "by Don Elkins With Carla Rueckert".

[BrownEye]

Kinda of weird maybe nothing but I felt "pushed" to follow up on this and posting after you. Indigo area became very active and I got one of those moments that I have to stop everything and feel the energy flowing unable to do anything else. Weird but "normal" and "felt good" as usually happens.

Keep me updated if you find anything of interest.

[apeiron]

I will. You too.
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A machine that is self-conscious is a fascinating idea, and Spectra seems like the right name, for "it".

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Is this the Council of Nine that Ra talks about what Puharich is referring to?

I did not have a chance to research anything yet.

[apeiron]

Busy lately, but I was able to review chapter 7 of 'Secrets of the UFO'

http://www.llresearch.org/library/secret...ufo_07.pdf

Question I am asking myself is: Was Don thinking that Spectra was of Orion origin, in mentioned Q/A?'
This was based on the 1o commandments mention in that chapter (and the reference to the army there)

However, part of the channeling mentions landings in South America 3000 years ago from the 6D group part of the Confederation edit: (ASSUMING IS THE SAME).

Possibly what we have is a case of very contaminated channeling.

[native]

Possibly what we have is a case of very contaminated channeling.

What are you referring to? The Law of One being contaminated?

Questioner: I was thinking last night that if I were in the place of Ra right now, the first distortion of the Law of One might cause me to mix some erroneous data with the true information that I was transmitting to this group. Do you do this?

Ra: I am Ra. We do not intentionally do this. However, there will be confusion.

Consider that the state of mind of the seeker is obviously extremely important. Don was a part of the channel itself, and even if you walk a circle of light, if he had entirely innocent notions towards seeking specific information, those persuasions exist within the circle itself that has been walked.

Now, as questions are asked, Don being a part of the channel who is unaware of the negative magical influence that is being exerted on the entire process ["Thus those whose desires are shallow or transitory experience only ephemeral configurations of what might be called the magical circumstance."], the negative influence (specific information) begins asserting it's influence in the vibratory choice of words.

So when Ra says they don't intentionally do this, and that there will be confusion, they are referring to the correctness of the channeled statement, yet the choice of words will influence the seeker depending on their alignment.

[BrownEye]

Don was a part of the channel itself, and even if you walk a circle of light, if he had entirely innocent notions towards seeking specific information, those persuasions exist within the circle itself that has been walked.

Fully understandable. This applies to energy work I experiment with. Creating an energy field without first clearing my personal space includes the dark energies as part of the field I create.

[native]

Now this is what comes after the "However, there will be confusion." statement.

"The errors which have occurred have occurred due to the occasional variation in the vibrational complex of this instrument due to its ingestion of a chemical substance. It is not our intent in this particular project to create erroneous information but to express in the confining ambiance of your language system the feeling of the infinite mystery of the one creation in its infinite and intelligent unity."

"They're" talking about LSD, specific information. This then gives the reader reason to believe that LSD caused the confusion, when in reality, it is the negative influence. And pay particular attention to the latter sentence. Ra exists where there is unification of positive/negative. They encompass both. The negative aspect of themselves subtly wishes to balance the entire process, to make sure that mystery is conveyed into the material itself, that is, a sense of unknowing.

It is up to the seeker to know, to read the words correctly and discover the truth.

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Fully understandable. This applies to energy work I experiment with. Creating an energy field without first clearing my personal space includes the dark energies as part of the field I create.

What is your method?

[BrownEye]

I don't have any real method. I just experiment with creating both from thought and tools. Since I can't yet "see" what the effect is, I ask another with sight as to the effect of each experiment. I am pretty lazy when it comes to thought forms, which is why I originally started building tools.