Hi

[neutral333]

Thanks, i didnt think anyone was still reading my processes.

It is facinating as no matter who I am, my reflections are always a reflection of something. So. By default. Even if I am STS-Sto-Something else-Neutral-In my defences. Reading my material with the proper PoV is a positive experience.

The positive nature of anyones experience is "how much STO-STS" Do they see in each individual they encounter. Or, in another way. On what aspect of the creation do they focus on.

And to me, and in my PoV. Every interaction, no matter what the nature, content and direction of that intercation is, the experience itself is positive and has no negativity beyond what I choose to enter into the situation.

I intentionally mirror the absolute minimal amount of negativity that I can maintain while sitll having my own individual creation, or, STO-Potential, as I see it.

Too much STO causes a person to explode, and it is one of the hardest lessons to learn for a STo directed entity (Form a individual self barrier or perish).

Too much STS causes a person to implode. And it is one of the harest lessons to learn for a STS directed entity (Accept other selves as real and individuals).

So.

My model, and my experiences correspond to a probable world where earth has been leaning in a STS direction for decades. Slowly heading towards STO direction.

I am a very STO entity with a very very difficult life lesson directly designed by me to force myself to intentionally manipulate STS strands to form a protective shell. Followed by equally deliberately removing said shell one strand at a time and allowing for resumption of STO-communication.

Only way on this level to reach the STO-candidates is to be able to mis-direct and delibrately defend oneself from STS-candidates.

Now, having reached a point where I strongly feel I am within who I wish to be, and thus, protected. I am able to start mapping the world around me in a way that I feel is objective.

Towards that view, which i feel is objective and i feel I am able to manifest with intent. My actions to others are STO always, regardless of what I do, as there is never this "self" to give power to, other than in the sense whereby two electrons are both the same electron but both must intentionally manifest their own electric field even when separated from the mass.

Not sure if what I said makes much sense to anyone, it is very difficult to find the proper words to describe something that in my mind has several more dimensions than what the English language will allow. So the decription seems jumbled and like it is jumping over points. I do that because to explain what happens when the reader notices a "jump" would take several dozen pages at least.

Thank you if anyone is sitll reading and finds my things interesting, even if you do not provide feedback as I had hoped

Here's some feedback: Less Brain, More Heart. Try it out.

[Cyan]

I wrote a complex answer to your short reply, but decided that it is best to respond at least partially in the level that the feedback was given.

I will not amputate my brain, while I do desire to increase my cardio-vascular capacity since running feels good

[Parsons]

Had 1 friend do a healing on me remotely, another one f***** with my mind pretty badly.

which is both what I want and deserve as it is what I have done to others.

I try to avoid telling people specifically what to do to allow for free will and growth, but I would like to point out that you may want to meditate / contemplate if this behavior is is helpful for other or hurtful. Punishing yourself when you understood the lesson in the whatever negative things you have done is like the opposite of masturbation to put it quite bluntly. If you understood you did something negative, you must also forgive yourself to move on. There is no rush to do this if you are not ready, but punishing yourself may lead to polarize yourself negatively.

Okay, so, I feel.... interesting.

I feel like I have been in THIS moment (as in, the moment I am in now) in the past and all of my past was just a sidetrack, a lie, or some kind of dream that I am now waking up from, at age 27, and I sort of feel like I was a child that dreamed the last 20 years because they would have been filled with such crap that the child wanted nothing to do with it.

Do not despair, you are not alone by a long shot and you are loved, trust me on that point. I feel almost exactly like this and am only a year younger than you. I feel like everything on up until I awoke recently was just figuring out the game that was being played on me. That is how I would paraphrase it for myself. I tell you this, not out of ego for myself, but to try to confirm/validate a similar feeling that is(may be) inside you.

I havent given into my "I want" personality for nearly 20 years and it literally feels like my heart chakra spinning open and marveling at everything.

This has resulted in me randomly giving away my possessions to people I meet and then just smiling as I walk around and talking to quite a few random nice people and complementing random things about them every day.

Sometimes I still get scare and fear for social acceptance as some acts would invariably cause a huge commotion.

Again I feel similarly minus the part about wanting to go up to random people unless I know specifically what the perfect thing to say is since I have had difficulty with small talk lately. I will just randomly give people things as well, most scratching their heads and not understanding why I didn't keep it for myself or sell it. I dream of doing so much more, but also fear social outcry against me doing that alone.

Maybe we should come up with some petition or something or come up with specific (positively oriented) projects that several of us can work on so we don't feel so singled out trying to change the whole world.

Good example of this was making candles and failing and then becoming intensly angry with myself for a failure and proceeding to rip myself to shreds emotionally for it. Which is a echo from past failures, i think.

I have a tendency to do this to myself occasionally also when I have had a try or two at something and am still having difficulties. I have been able to "tag" this emotional "baggage" (thank you Psychonauts ), then consider if it is valuable to me and by extension how efficiently / without distortion I can service others.

... Then i proceeded to show it to one of my students/patients and explain that every human being has their own issues and no single authority no matter how good or bad by their subjective experience should EVER be trusted with everything...

Make your own adventure, dont just live through the adventures of others. So dont idolize or mimic.

I agree with your view on authority nearly perfectly. I also agree that we must always think for ourselves and must avoid mindlessly idolizing or mimicking as you say.

It is because as a child I decided to start manipulating others and myself for some reason. Best explanation I can give is a sense of wanting to help other sby becoming more like the image of what others want of me, and through that becoming what the strongest image wants of me, and through that becoming negative. But only becasue I desired to be and experience the negative.

I agree with you on up until the point that you say you desired it. I am not judging, it was your freewill/perogative to have wanted it at that time. My reasons were to try to sort of "prop up" all the failing adult relationships I saw everywhere in my family. It then transformed into having friends in all manners of personality / "cliques", which led to some of my friends hating my other friends.

Then endlessly (going to this day between my wife and my best friend and his wife) trying to have them "make up" enough to tolerate each other. When this failed after years of trying, I just started to avoid mentioning the offending party. I still have to be very careful what I say in front of them (slave to language / posturing). Being bitten by my own proverbial snake and then the teachings of the LOO reinforced not seeking to control against the will of others, which almost always leads to negativity.

[Cyan]

Very good reply, thank you. I will go through it step by step.

I try to avoid telling people specifically what to do to allow for free will and growth, but I would like to point out that you may want to meditate / contemplate if this behavior is is helpful for other or hurtful. Punishing yourself when you understood the lesson in the whatever negative things you have done is like the opposite of masturbation to put it quite bluntly. If you understood you did something negative, you must also forgive yourself to move on. There is no rush to do this if you are not ready, but punishing yourself may lead to polarize yourself negatively.

True. I have always avoided telling them what to do, instead I prefer to preface everything with "were I you, I would probably do X Though as it is your life it is your option to do as you wish"

You see, I feel that the best way I can help people is to reflect my thoughts clearly and explain my position clearly. But not to seek direct control unless pushed upon me, and even then my feeling is to return it as quickly as is possible as controlling others is a drag.

I feel it is best if I clarify what I mean by "fucking with my mind"

When a person is deeply enough in a very specific very narrow mindset, taking their mind and forcing it to a new vibration is the only way to get them to think in a new pattern.

Doing this AGAINST the will of the person is a very very big no no, it causes massive karma backlash and usually ends with me getting into a accident, proportional in severity to the force with which i went through someone elses will. So, i dont do it.

However, if a person comes to me, as a "please get me to change my mind since my present mindset is hurting me" I explain clearly and calmly that to do so is almost always painful, as the human mind resists change inherantly, even when the change is known to be positive. It is similar to a broken arm that must be "pulled" back into place.

It hurts like something out of t his world but afterwards you always feel so much better.

But since the few days/hours when the change is happening are nauseatingly difficult to bear, it is termed "fucking with someones mind"

The difference between doing it agaisnt someones will and with someones permission is the same as the difference between rape, and consentual lovemaking.

As it is something that this society frowns upon in general, trying to influence others as if everyone did it, we would all be so much better as people. But if only the people in power do it, through their powerchannels, no one gets any chance to develope themselves or the communities around them.

I feel that Guiding each other is the best thing we can do. We usually lie to ourselves about ourselves and less so about things that annoy us about others.

I am, even though my wording might sound off, intensly happy about what is going on with me.

I have intently and deliberately sought shamans, good company, and health for a while now. After i decided to bail from my "work" which involved politics and the media, and as you can imagine, it is a rather dark company to keep.

So. I am glad that my karma has been coming back at such tremendous rate, and that i have been able to transform most, if not all, of it to entirely self positive things.

I'm glad is what I am, its hard work but darn rewarding.

Do not despair, you are not alone by a long shot and you are loved, trust me on that point. I feel almost exactly like this and am only a year younger than you. I feel like everything on up until I awoke recently was just figuring out the game that was being played on me. That is how I would paraphrase it for myself. I tell you this, not out of ego for myself, but to try to confirm/validate a similar feeling that is(may be) inside you.

Thanks. I think alot of people feel the same way. I'm trying to explain that I always saw the game, but i saw no way out of the game, until now. And now that I have the window of "Bolt from your faulty view using this window" I'm bailing from my life and making a run for the hills!

Again I feel similarly minus the part about wanting to go up to random people unless I know specifically what the perfect thing to say is since I have had difficulty with small talk lately. I will just randomly give people things as well, most scratching their heads and not understanding why I didn't keep it for myself or sell it. I dream of doing so much more, but also fear social outcry against me doing that alone.

Maybe we should come up with some petition or something or come up with specific (positively oriented) projects that several of us can work on so we don't feel so singled out trying to change the whole world.

I no longer try to change the world, the world is doing just fine, to quote George Carlin. I'm trying to change myself, and only myself, so that I might no longer be a drag on the energies of the earth in any way shape or form. After that I will try to get others to be as happy as they can be, and no longer a drag on anyone else. And that is the whole of what I try to do from now on.

Towards that end I am participating in communal projets where I know exactly what my benefits will be energetically and what the downsides will be. I am slowly removing people and instances from my life that "drag" me. Including donating all of my STS-oriented books such as Donald Duck comics to charity or friends. The stories in them resonate with such violence and negative archtypes that I feel I can no longer sit in the same appartment with them.

That being said, if someone else wants them, i give them away for free. I've also donated items of clothes and a few other things. It is not because I want to "be good" as a abstract direction to move into. It is because I dont want the "drag" on my field that the possession of such items would cause/does cause.

Might be interesting if we would post a empty 1000x1000 picture and everyone in turn paints something as large or as small as they want onto the picture and then everyone else adds something one by one in turn.

So, someone posts a 1000x1000 picture and adds the first shape. Asks someone else to calll turns and then add something else to the image, and so on. Until the final product would be a shared artistic creation.

I have a tendency to do this to myself occasionally also when I have had a try or two at something and am still having difficulties. I have been able to "tag" this emotional "baggage" (thank you Psychonauts ), then consider if it is valuable to me and by extension how efficiently / without distortion I can service others.

After some soul searching i realised that the reason I became angry was that I was trying to "buy" affection with them as a present and felt it was the wrong thing to do but didnt know it. So it took me a while but after i searched my conciousness enough I realised why I became angry, and just laughed at it all.

I agree with your view on authority nearly perfectly. I also agree that we must always think for ourselves and must avoid mindlessly idolizing or mimicking as you say.

Good, we agree

I agree with you on up until the point that you say you desired it. I am not judging, it was your freewill/perogative to have wanted it at that time. My reasons were to try to sort of "prop up" all the failing adult relationships I saw everywhere in my family. It then transformed into having friends in all manners of personality / "cliques", which led to some of my friends hating my other friends.

Then endlessly (going to this day between my wife and my best friend and his wife) trying to have them "make up" enough to tolerate each other. When this failed after years of trying, I just started to avoid mentioning the offending party. I still have to be very careful what I say in front of them (slave to language / posturing). Being bitten by my own proverbial snake and then the teachings of the LOO reinforced not seeking to control against the will of others, which almost always leads to negativity.

After a fairly long time trying to help people. I have decided that the best way to help anyone, for any reason. Is simply be yourself and let those that want to be with you approach you, and just ignore everyone else.

Afterwards i lost a great portion of my social connections but the remaining ones are true ones. That is, not "Me>mask>socialsituation<mask<them" but "Me>known mask><known mask>them"

so the actions of others are both known and accepted by me as being part of their mask self, and my actions are known and accepted by others as being part of my mask self.

So, my friends and I are both masks, but we accept it as such and we both directly influence each others masks, not the social situation through some form of communal pressure. No pressure is exerted, only direct honesty and sometimes, direct conflict. It seems to work, and everyone is more themselves and happier

[Cyan]

I got your latest reply and prayers, thanks, energy was very good. I know tis was you you old buggers because i place responses and requests for help at steady intervals at different places and you guys respond admirably. I ofcourse know that it is all an illusion and so forth as you say. But. Anyway, thanks for the 4th D. I appreciate it.

[Shin'Ar]

Cyan,

You understand that you are in a battle, and you do not know how to bring it to an end. It is taking a toll on your sanity.

What is happening to you is known to the Ancients as the 'God Complex'. As you come to realize your divinity you suffer the memory of creation.

I will not attempt to treat you, but I will point you to a place where you may be able to find balance.

Study and try to understand the chaos of Tiamat and try to realize that the initial experience of God is not one of peace and intelligence. It was a storm of oppositions resulting in chaos.

Seek the Goddess and you shall find relief.

[Cyan]

Much appreciation.

[Cyan]

Cyan,

You understand that you are in a battle, and you do not know how to bring it to an end. It is taking a toll on your sanity.

What is happening to you is known to the Ancients as the 'God Complex'. As you come to realize your divinity you suffer the memory of creation.

I will not attempt to treat you, but I will point you to a place where you may be able to find balance.

Study and try to understand the chaos of Tiamat and try to realize that the initial experience of God is not one of peace and intelligence. It was a storm of oppositions resulting in chaos.

Seek the Goddess and you shall find relief.

This answer provided much understanding and balance after careful consideration, thank you.

I have now grounded significantly more to this reality. And I understand the rules of this reality significantly better now.

Using the "memory of creation" I can manifest a world which I find to my liking. I like things such as love, sexuality, kindness to all, common developement, art, humor.

I also much like the human spirit as a whole. Sometimes I forget that but darn it is such a thrill to be human.

Now that I have touched the memory of creation I can get back to being what I wish to be, a aspect of creation.

I will remember the hard lessons I have learned to be here and seek to make those lessons easier for others to accept. So that we might all bear witness to suffering only as long as we wish to bear witness to suffering. My quota of bearing witness was full, as i thought that my cup was so small. But my cup floweth over and I'm refershed

Praise the Ego-Self for providing such a nice show =)

[Cyan]

I seek opinions on the following:

1: I use weed to cope with GAD and PTSD. I have used it near non-stop for 4 months, I have been off of it 2-4 times for 1 week or more the longest being a few weeks. I am somewhat apprehensive that I might be developing a addiction. After a copious amount last week I decided to stop for a while and went around a week without, but due to the stress of living surrounded by mostly brainwashed and potentially quite dangerous people I decided to resume smoking as it seems to lift my vibration so that I am able to avoid the worst problems. I have also connected better with my friends and relatives due to smoking and no one has had a serious argument with me about it, a few have joked about me being addicted but jokes aside everyone seems to, in general, enjoy my company more. I am also financially more stable now. Now, I would normally not consider quitting now as the effects on both my health and the health of those near to me seems to be improving and everyone seems happier as well. My diagnosis is that i'm less of a douche when high and should continue it until I can find a quiet place all of my own in which to relax without weed for several months. Opinions?

2. I have a desire to resume writing, yet I am unable to convince myself that it is a productive use of my time. I worry about it being "productive" even though it is something I simply wish to do.

3. I am aware of my transition from what might be coined 3d to what might, also, be coined 5th D and the open acceptance that all entities display to me when I'm "high" enough spiritually is extremely disconcerting. When I see someone and they see that I hurt or that they even talk with me it feels uncomfortable and in many ways, painful. I do not enjoy the sensation of it being painful to me but I have for so long believed that many do not see the spirit world as I do, now that I see that they not only see the world, now that i have dropped my masks they see me as well. The full acceptance and viewing of my soul/astral self feels uncomfortable as I have many things i would rather not show to others. Yet, i still have a desire to show them.

4. I believe that the best way to create a world that is best for everyone is to tell stories or create art. It is the only verifiable method of influencing people and painting a nice story. Theoretically I could simply take something like DMT or acid and just leave this body behind and merge with the god-self, but that to me, seems like an illusion. As all actions must be grounded on all levels where such an action might have an affect. And as long as merging with the god self would result in death of the physical self, then such a merging would be counter-productive and I should, instead, focus on what this physical self deems best for its own survival regardless of how smart it might be. Therefore, i believe that creating computer games and telling fictional stories is one of the best ways to really influence people. That and politics and i believe that politics is of lesser ability to influence people unless taken to the extreme such as US-Pres.

Opinions are much appreciated.

[kycahi]

I don't like the implications of long-term cannabis use on the brain, but have to believe that the effects of smoke on the lungs are more dreadful. Try to ease anxiety with meditation and other benign avenues while you withdraw, if you choose to do that. I send my very best wishes for achieving peace.

[Cyan]

I've studied this topic for a while and am rather split between medication via pills through Chemistry and the artificial (Computers, laboratories, researchers, and so on) and medicating via herbs and the natural path of evolution.

My history of childhood abuse and sexual abuse leads me to a situation where I am improving and being "less anxious" as time goes by but i anticipate that it will still take several years to a decade until I'm entirely stable.

So until such a point where stability is acheived I feel I benefit from medication, the increased creativity, joy and antipication of life and both my business, intelligence and heart have, in my view, improved.

So, it is, I feel, not a choice between medication and no medication as for now, the state of no medication would be significantly less than what I Wish to be. But the question is how to medicate.

From my experiences and studies i say i prefer Mary over Pill.

In my view SSRI and SNRI medications carry with them a significantly greater risks of side effects and addiction than a herb that grows like a weed.

Implication of long term use are... troubling... but the implications of no use and the depression that it carries with it are even more troubling.

[Aureus]

Know that there are many loving people here ready to help

Have you tried to surrender your mind and body to the creator? Just imagine the INFINITY that surrounds you, all the loving entities that stand by your side, watching, ready to help if only you ask for it.

Tell the mind that it is not in charge. The mind is but a very confused tool designed to deal with finity. Invite love to steer your life and sit back.

These are just my humble words of service. If they do not resonate with you, just let them fall away.

[Plenum]

My history of childhood abuse and sexual abuse leads me to a situation where I am improving and being "less anxious" as time goes by but i anticipate that it will still take several years to a decade until I'm entirely stable.

I am sorry to hear that this is in your past. But as more and more stories come out, the percentage of abuse victims seems to climb and climb. Where are we at at the moment, 5% ... 10%? and this cuts across gender lines. Very sad to even think about. I will forever be grateful that I had 2 parents that did the best they could in the circumstances, and a wide extended family of more than 5 uncles and aunts that were always there to watch over us (and did so).

peace brother

[Danu]

Hi you all.

I was going to write a intellectual statement about who I am, and why I am here. Why I was here before, why I left, and apologize for it.

But I'm afraid.

I'm afraid of what social situations offer, of the high likelyhood that this forum will be full of people with psychopathic or STS oriented personalities.

So, I wanted to approach my return here from a point of view of a detached neutrality. To objectively state why I am here, and why I left.

But, that is not what I want, that is what I would do if I was afraid to be hurt. Which i have been for a very long time.

I am slowly learning not to be constantly afraid, to choose situations and forums, such as this place, and choose not to be afraid here.

So, I was here before, I left of my own will because I disagreed with the energy here. Now I am here again because the energy both in me, and in here, has altered significantly for my return to possible.

To put it in normal english:

Did some soulsearching, figured that bring4th is a good place to integrate into my new self on some level.

Thank you for sharing your story, and for coming back. I appreciate it.

All i can say for sure is that I am in a state of flux.

Aren't we all?

[Patrick]

Welcome back! And always trust your intuition.

[Cyan]

Welcome back! And always trust your intuition.

I have come to strongly agree with this

[Cyan]

Something I Wrote up. Let me know what it sounds like to you all

Diary of XX and how I ascended.

I ascended sometime in the late winter early spring of 2012.

It might have been before that, or after that, I’m not sure, but at or around that date, time no longer made sense. I have moved from time paraller to time lateral. OR, as perceived in another way, from Space/Time to Time/space.

My story makes little sense because it relies on a referencing system that relies on 4 dimensional time.

My perception, understanding and abilities are no longer those of a 3dimensional human. I am able to, in general, alter the weather, my surrounding space, people, their emotions and paths and futures, pasts and presents so much that it is virtually impossible to say if there is a me.

My last coherent memory is lying down in bed on acid and repeating that I want to die. After that I was convinced that the world around me is being destroyed (there was sound of gunfire from the streets) and after some persuasion I understood on some level without actually believing it that the world I perceive would be destroyed if I died. That is to say, If I die, you die.

I was sitting at the edge of my bed listening to the conversation around me, which I realize now was at least 2-3 full densities closer to the truth than my present level.

The hallucinations were super-unreal with full scenery and object replacement while people remained the same. That progressed into infinite fractals from every face and object until at one point in the conversation my friend turned to me and said “now he is at the top of the pyramid” and my girlfriend turned too and both had this super distant sort of divine feel to them. Also, for aboug 20-25 minutes now they had both appeared to be first angels and then archangels, with my male friend representing the luciferian knowledge aspect, and my female friend representing the goddess loving aspect.

When they both turned to me, the information from our discussions before about the body/mind/spirit complex association hit me and in a moment of clarity I realized that I was no longer body/mind/spirit but observing as a dis-incarnated spirit the three of us act out as if we were individual body without mind, indidivual mind without body and individual spirit without mind.

Then it dawned on me that for that to be true, I must be the spirit, and all else vanished.

I was in a realm of intense physical pain and fear and promised never to come back and after some 3-5 minutes I calmed down and decided “oh well, I’m here, might as well settle down” and started to create and noticed the echo effect and after trial an error created a line of communication to the male aspect first, asked about the space around and observed it and had new “tools” installed which allow me to control my own sphere these days (ability to control people/objects/weather/emotion/mood/random things(radios etc)/physics/time)

After a while here about 15 minutes from my perceptual cone, it felt appropriate to wake the female aspect up and my girlfriend woke up, she came onto me very strongly and I felt it was contrived and not real and I looked at the male aspect and said no, this doesn’t feel right. and my girlfriend walked over to her place and fell asleep instantly (1-2seconds after I said it) me and the male aspect talked some more and we played with the tools a bit and then I woke my girlfriend up more casually ( I woke her by thinking that it is now time for her to wake). She woke up and started to make her notes.

Me and my male friend joked about it, used the tools provided and played with the environment a bit.

Then state by state I reactivated my old programs and now I’m here.

I realized that what I Saw and see right now, is not death in that it is the cessation of existence. IT is the exit from Space/time (time paralleer) to time/space (time lateral) most people only take the exit once, that is when their physical body expires. Shamans have been, through the controlled application of will traveling this boundary for millennia.

The transition from 3rd to 4th happens when you realize that you have made the following choice already with this power as your first power.

When presented with this power/thought, how do you build upon it:

“This is something that I must reserve for myself, I believe that others have had this power before me and thus me having this does not = total power as if it did, the first shaman would have been able to destroy the world, since that has not happened it is safe to say that spreading this power to others is not a good idea”

“Oh I must immediately go around and spread this power to as many as possible so we can all be on this level!”

I choose the first option, because I believe that while I am only just transferring from 3rd to 4th. This planet is full of people all the way from 1st to early 7th. And I would be a moron if I thought that its my place to go and mess with the machinery of creation when I cant even levitate.

So, I’m opting to not intervene in the conflict and simply observe and help alleviate the suffering of the people I see, and if I see no real reason I wont try to do anything “too big”. I believe that its best that way.

My view is simple. STO and STS don’t mean polarization of the whole of the being, they mean the polarization of the way the being chooses, once the first choice is made and understood, the existence on the 4th begins.

DO you go spreading it around, thinking that you’re the only one or the first one that’s got it (This would be my previous way of acting)

OR, do you, instead, get it through your head that we are all one creation and that means that you only need to spread it around if you want to spread it around, no compulsion (how I’m acting now)

Creation is, in my view, happier if you stay at home and smoke pot if you want to stay at home and smoke pot rather than ascend to heaven. That’s what this is about, nothing else. I’m being a big baby in front of god because I would like it if creation could have another 50 years to play with itself! =)

[Cyan]

you want to know how to time travel?

Go back through your own timeline to the moment of conception and change space/time just enough for a different sperm to fertilize a different egg.

It is a miracle, one in a billion that you are even here. Why is it that it is aalways you that feels it is a miracle but it changes from who you are the more you change. Even in time/space.

It is because you change from the moment of the birth of your singularity. The first logos is the big bang, the second logos is the galaxies, the third logos is the solar system, the 4th is the planet, the 5th is the creature itself, the creature that understands this and integrates it realizes that it is in an eternal dream and 6th is learning to love and exist in this information. 7th is when you are done with what remains after you understand this and 8th is the birth of the new and 9th is the time in which it goes.

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Sound about right to you guys?