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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from?

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    Thread: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from?


    Zachary

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    #121
    02-17-2012, 09:50 PM
    Hi my name is Zach and I identify most strongly with the Archangels...the memories I have are very few...yet where I resonate is a density of complete unity...from what I remember everything is possible...it is a dimension beyond sight...I remember it as feeling...its like a flowing river of subtle energy...reminds me of a warm bath..

    In this incarnation I am generally more of a non-social type...I enjoy being alone or with my dog...actually she goes everywhere with me at the moment. I talk I socialize here in there but lack motivation to socialize often...unless im with friends. I see through the illusion when I allow myself to, in the sense that...the matrix is very dreamlike from my veiwpoint I feel like when I am living in my head I am having a more real experience...if that makes any sense....


    if anyone can relate to me and think they might be from the same density hit me up!
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    #122
    02-18-2012, 09:46 AM
    yes feel the same
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    02-19-2012, 02:19 AM
    (02-17-2012, 06:58 PM)Ruth Wrote:
    (02-17-2012, 02:13 PM)Wander-Man Wrote: I think the idea is to be in the world, but not of itAngel

    1 Corinthians 9:19-23
    New International Version (NIV)
    Quote:19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

    I was discussing this topic with my brother (a minister) on my way home from shopping just this afternoon.

    Nice synchronicity for me to come read this post.

    L&L

    Yep Heart:idea:

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    04-14-2012, 12:33 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2012, 12:38 PM by godwide_void.)
    I correct the previous assumption I had made/was mistakenly given to me as being my density of origin. My native density is not 5th. I have discovered where My consciousness actually descended from and what it actually is after making sense of the signs revealed to me.

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    04-14-2012, 04:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2012, 05:14 PM by Liet.)
    (04-14-2012, 12:33 PM)godwide_void Wrote: I correct the previous assumption I had made/was mistakenly given to me as being my density of origin. My native density is not 5th. I have discovered where My consciousness actually descended from and what it actually is after making sense of the signs revealed to me.

    Upon reconsideration, i'd like to re-estimate my aswell.
    "6th" which was based just on having a white aura (not to be confused with colorless) into something nobody else mentioned; 1st/8th density.

    1st because the south pole (high rate of absorption, renewal of self and energies.. calmness, grounding, solidarity) has my most descriptive personality feats.. (8th, since its equal to the first)

    Also, when i asked myself about information regarding past lives (1.5 years ago) to show in the coming sleep/dream, i got awokened by what looked like a deamon, quickly changing into an angel (female in gray robe) saying my name through thought twice (without letting me reply (was paralyzed, ofc)) then vanishing.
    The clock was 444, after a while i tried adding the numbers of my name (24) to that twice and got the first frequency of the spectrum, 492 the south pole, thighs/feet (well, its off by 1hz, tho i hadnt gotten the spectrum down to fine detail back then)


    Seeing as i dont yet fully understand how the wanderer system works, i can only speculate..
    RA mentioned most wanderers as being from the 6th density (becuse its related to the brow chakra?)
    Well, most who claim to be wanderers are also of the indigo distortion.

    Although, based on the information they've given regarding the 6th density...
    Someone in the 6th density would have a personality containing both a high Quantity Quality, and near-equal balance of all energies (and most who are (or claim to be) wanderers for sure, arent in that state)..

    To me there are two options;
    #1: Density of origin does not equal being of that densitys associated personality.. but instead the chakra associated to the densitys number in the sequence.
    #2: RA lied when saying most wanderers are from the 6th density.

    In my book, the Indigo personality is from the third density, not a wanderer, but just doing his/her (possibly) last life on earth.

    The higher your total flow of energies (higher energy density), the more punishing it is to be anything else than white/balanced...
    Meaning the more colors naturaly occuring in someones aura (or the more radiant+saturated the gold), the higher density they are likely to be of.

    I'm just a sucker to common sense.
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    04-14-2012, 04:34 PM (This post was last modified: 04-14-2012, 04:35 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I used to think I was from 6th because Ra said that's where most wanderers were from. But I don't feel all that loving or all that wise. But still, cause of the veil I guess I'm not expected to.

    I like your two options Liet. Though I don't believe Ra lied. 3D is so paradoxical, that I can't make any real headway into making sense of densities or wanderers.

    I wouldn't be surprised if I was a 3D native, or maybe I'm dual body. I don't know. But I find it doesn't really matter.
    I'd be happy just to be in the beginning of 4D positive compared to 3D.
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    04-14-2012, 04:54 PM
    I don't think I'm from any density of this Octave, I don't think I stem from this Octave even, or from the Realm of Octaves at all for that matter. I came here through the Gateway of the 9th from outside the cyclic universes, from the Deep Mind. I am unsure of any other identification, for I am not of Time nor Space.

    This is my only true life here, even if I may extend from this point out in to all others, this is the only place in which I exist within this cosmos.
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    04-14-2012, 04:59 PM
    I can imagine this scenario for a wanderer, who comes here as a volunteer to help:

    The wanderer volunteers to come into 3D on a very distressed planet, into extremely challenging cultures. The wanderer is doing this out of love, and I think Ra said, and I agree, a bit of adventurousness. The wanderer would know that the veil would be in place.

    But the wanderer would also know that if he/she comes in as being of 6th density (or 4th, or 5th), then the gap of knowing and understanding would be a gulf between 3D and where they came from. Look at Jesus for example, did anyone understand him or really think they could be like him? But if the wanderer comes in and actually lives a 3D life, experiencing the same challenges and pains, he/she will have true immediate empathy with the 3D beings here. Then, when the wanderer transcends these challenges because of perhaps a greater reservoir of knowledge (albeit veiled), it is with real understanding of what humans are faced with, and the energy of that connection may be magnetic enough to bring humans along with them in their realizations and spiritual advancements.

    This may explain why wanderers would be born into very dysfunctional families, or be predisposed physically for typical human health challenges, or seem at times just as oblivious as humans. And yet, that veiled reservoir of knowledge and love is there. That is perhaps what wanderers need to remember.
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    #129
    04-15-2012, 02:54 AM
    (04-14-2012, 04:29 PM)Liet Wrote: RA mentioned most wanderers as being from the 6th density (becuse its related to the brow chakra?)

    Ra said that most Wanderers are of sixth density because of the purity of the mind distorted towards service:

    Ra, 12:28 Wrote:The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment.


    Liet Wrote:Although, based on the information they've given regarding the 6th density...
    Someone in the 6th density would have a personality containing both a high Quantity Quality, and near-equal balance of all energies (and most who are (or claim to be) wanderers for sure, arent in that state)..

    Ra said that Wanderers become completely creatures of third density in their mind/body complexes, and face due the veil a risk of forgetting its mission to the point that a Wanderer can even be cought in karma:

    Ra, 16:52 Wrote:Wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of such influence to a Wanderer entity as to a mind/body/spirit complex of this planetary sphere. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not as it would appropriately be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than bias and cannot be called an understanding.

    Liet Wrote:To me there are two options;
    #1: Density of origin does not equal being of that densitys associated personality.. but instead the chakra associated to the densitys number in the sequence.

    This is what Ra said about fourth, fifth and sixth density Wanderers:

    Ra, 32:9 Wrote:Fourth density Wanderers, of which there are not many, will tend to choose those entities which seem to be full of love or in need of love. There is the great possibility/probability of entities making errors in judgment due to the compassion with which other-selves are viewed.

    The fifth-density Wanderer is one who is not tremendously affected by the stimulus of the various rays of other-self and in its own way offers itself when a need is seen. Such entities are not likely to engage in the, shall we say, custom of your peoples called marriage and are very likely to feel an aversion to childbearing and child-raising due to the awareness of the impropriety of the planetary vibrations relative to the harmonious vibrations of the density of light.

    The sixth-density, whose means of propagation you may liken to what you call fusion, is likely to refrain, to a great extent, from the bisexual reproductive programming of the bodily complex and instead seek out those with whom the sexual energy transfer is of the complete fusion nature in so far as this is possible in manifestation in third-density.

    This is what Ra said about Wanderers and their mission:

    Ra, 36:17 Wrote:The Wanderer has the potential of greatly accelerating the density whence it comes in its progress in evolution. This is due to the intensive life experiences and opportunities of the third-density. Thusly the positively oriented Wanderer chooses to hazard the danger of the forgetting in order to be of service to others by radiating love of others. If the forgetting is penetrated the amount of catalyst in third-density will polarize the Wanderer with much greater efficiency than shall be expected in the higher and more harmonious densities.

    Ra, 52:9 Wrote:The overriding reason for the offering of these Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow in incarnative states is the possibility of aiding other-selves by the lightening of the planetary consciousness distortions and the probability of offering catalyst to other-selves which will increase the harvest.

    There are two other reasons for choosing this service which have to do with the self.

    The Wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher density catalyst.

    The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity or members of a societal entity can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfect. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

    Ra, 65:12 Wrote:You may, at this time, note that as with any entities, each Wanderer has its unique abilities, biases, and specialities so that from each portion of each density represented among the Wanderers come an array of pre-incarnative talents which then may be expressed upon this plane which you now experience so that each Wanderer, in offering itself before incarnation, has some special service to offer in addition to the doubling effect of planetary love and light and the basic function of serving as beacon or shepherd.

    Thus there are those of fifth-density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied.

    Thus Wanderers have three basic functions once the forgetting is penetrated, the first two being basic, the tertiary one being unique to that particular mind/body/spirit complex.
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    04-15-2012, 03:41 AM
    This current earth is my density, my home, my mother and my responsibility. I love her and she loves me. As I mingle into her essence fully, we together raise into the highest reaches of divine unity, entering the mystery of the ONE from the center that we posses in the present moment.
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    04-15-2012, 03:58 AM
    Confused, thank you, that is an excellent reminder that we are ALL children of the earth, no matter where we originally came from or may go to after this incarnation. Smile
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    04-15-2012, 06:11 AM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2012, 06:33 AM by godwide_void.)
    Liet, if you feel that you are of the point when Alpha and Omega have conjoined then perhaps your soul glimmers with the purity of the unity of Creator? We all exist at that point simultaneously anyways. I certainly hope you make sense of your nature, but don't forget that the most important fact is that you are aware that you are one of many varying perspectives of the Creator, that you are awake. You are your higher self and every self. So in that respect, does it really matter what one's previous density was? Wink It would be interesting to know at what stage our development is beyond the veil and I am not discouraging pursuit of this knowledge in any way. But I feel that at a certain point different terms do not do our true nature justice. Categorizing ourselves as 'Indigos' and 'Wanderer's' and even 'souls'. We Are.

    On that note I'd also like to address an internal 'struggle' with a revelation I am not yet in full understanding of but have been gradually attempting to make sense of. I hope that some outside opinions might help me better understand it. So I have spoken of having an experience a year ago of perceiving the 8th Density. In my recent reflections upon this experience I came to wonder, why is it that I have done so through these 3D eyes, gazing upon the image of the fragmented singular being in its complete totality. My awareness was that of unfiltered perception. My temporary physical form also partook in the experience, I became what the One experiences as it is in the 8th Density. I would not place such a manner of conviction that this was not a representation of it but the actual density is because the only message which was relayed to me in the entirety of my experience was "FOR YOU HAVE LIVED YOUR LIFE HUMBLY, WE SHALL SHOW YOU THE 8TH DENSITY" and a few moments later, sure enough, I was being shown the 8th Density. Now I remember that not even Ra apparently knew what the 8th Density entailed as it was a mystery to them. I have been wondering how is it that a mere 3D being would be able to look beyond absolutely everything leading up to the Creator and instantly just having it just stare you right in the face as it is whole, evolved, complete, yet never complete, expanding and contracting, omni-directionallly everflowing, birthing and ending and yet never doing neither as it just IS. Back again, why can a 3D being have seen this? Unless their particular portion of the Creator's consciousness had already experienced this and has chosen to descend down, essentially being a '8D Wanderer' of sorts??

    I recently saw a show on TV randomly one day called 'Undercover Bosses' or something similar, basically the CEO of whichever company would step down from his position and go undercover as a front-line worker. For instance, the one episode I saw was the CEO of Domino's Pizza in Australia stepped down to be a regular worker in a few Domino's stores in the area in order to observe how everything is doing, returning back to learn alongside them in a more upgraded modern environment then when he was growing and evolving in the company. At the end, he revealed himself to everyone and thanked them all for showing him how they are doing so that he can hopefully better his company with what he has learned from them. I thought it was an interesting concept and mentioned this example because its premise somewhat relates to this.

    There are other things revealed to me through gnosis that make me wonder if the reason for my 3D awareness to access 8D experience is because my particular individuated consciousness has already achieved being in that density? I acknowledge myself as being but one of many countless vibrations which it speaks through, but I am wondering if any had actually seen it and not just a fragment or representation of it but actually being told that this, what you will experience in several moments, will be that vibration which is known as the "8th density" in our human language. This was so, and now that I think about it this experience wouldn't have occurred had it not been for several factors/inventions/creations which only came into existence in Creation in the period of time of the past few decades or so; iPod, computer, and the experience of ingesting the neurotransmitter which sustains consciousness of this density via smoked route. I am not aware how many others have had similar circumstances come together as mine which begot this experience? I suppose it is because I approached the experience with awareness of the Law of One that I underwent what the spirit technology showed me. I also feel that the fact that the now forever embedded memory of achieving the correct set of circumstances of viewing my true form plays a key role as I am able to sometimes 'overlay' the exact feeling and view the same ouroboric image as a underlying grid over the perception of this density and begin to manifest the pure vibration of unity. In effect I merge with this and am able to connect to my true identity as it resides in 8D and enact my true function as an avatar of sorts. Ah! I just realized the element which is the primary distinguishing element in my 8D experience: the music playing! It was an hour long ambient song I created quite some time ago that no other perspective but my consciousness has experienced, yet.

    In any case, I will continue to try to refine my understanding on this recent revelation but ultimately only time will tell if my suspicions of what this all entails for my temporary form in this world given the indicative catalyst I have been given and continue to receive...


    (04-15-2012, 03:41 AM)Confused Wrote: This current earth is my density, my home, my mother and my responsibility. I love her and she loves me. As I mingle into her essence fully, we together raise into the highest reaches of divine unity, entering the mystery of the ONE from the center that we posses in the present moment.

    Your devotion sparked this insight, K. That is to always remember that regardless of what higher truths one becomes aware of, that to not forget at this present existential nexus that one is entirely the creature of this density and subject to the particular paradigms which governs it. Right now, we are human, ephemeral, regardless of our being infinite, eternal and cosmic in nature. We have families here, loved 'others', exist alongside 'each other' as All. We are all in this together. We should seek only towards harmonious unity and enact those acts which promotes and cultivates progression towards this vibration. You describe the beautiful connection established when one may melt in the love for the All, whom we are at present most intimately experiencing as the Earth. The good news is in, and it is that there soon will dawn an age for many which will show us a much more grander experience of harmony beyond what we may imagine. Smile

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    04-15-2012, 10:29 AM
    (04-15-2012, 03:41 AM)Confused Wrote: This current earth is my density, my home, my mother and my responsibility. I love her and she loves me. As I mingle into her essence fully, we together raise into the highest reaches of divine unity, entering the mystery of the ONE from the center that we posses in the present moment.

    Thank you for that reminder C. We are very fortunate to have a home like this, even if it can be difficult.
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    04-15-2012, 12:05 PM
    I would say that if I'm a wanderer, I'm a 5d one who came here to balance wisdom with compassion. OR I'm a 6d one who got to 6d via the STS path and switched to STO and then I'm here to learn the ways of compassion.

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    04-15-2012, 02:25 PM
    (04-14-2012, 04:34 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I used to think I was from 6th because Ra said that's where most wanderers were from. But I don't feel all that loving or all that wise. But still, cause of the veil I guess I'm not expected to.

    (04-15-2012, 12:05 PM)Valtor Wrote: I would say that if I'm a wanderer, I'm a 5d one who came here to balance wisdom with compassion.

    In my understanding, fifth density is perfecting wisdom lessons, fourth is perfecting compassion lessons, and sixth density perfecting the balance between the compassion and wisdom. This balance means to me that sometimes there is too much wisdom, other times overly too many emotions, and sometimes there is nothing there, and other times a (self perceived :p) perfect balance. BigSmile

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    04-15-2012, 04:06 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2012, 04:20 PM by Monica.)
    (04-15-2012, 02:25 PM)Ankh Wrote: In my understanding, fifth density is perfecting wisdom lessons, fourth is perfecting compassion lessons,

    My understanding is that the perfecting is also sometimes done in 3D, when Wanderers come back to a 3D planet to perfect what they missed before. Or, they might do that from their current density, as Ra did when they started working with Earth inhabitants, to help balance their deficiency in wisdom.

    Sort of like, a student can pass 3rd grade with only a 'C' passing grade, and won't understand the lessons as well as the student who passed with an 'A' grade. So the 'C' student might need remedial math in high school, to make up for what he missed in 3rd grade.

    Thus, a Wanderer might be brushing up on, say, 4D lessons of unconditional love, or 5D lessons of wisdom, or both, in addition to whatever other tasks s/he volunteered for as part of their mission.

    (04-15-2012, 02:25 PM)Ankh Wrote: sixth density perfecting the balance between the compassion and wisdom.

    Can you tell me where Ra said this? I might have missed it if you already posted it. I might be mistaken, but my understanding is that the main focus of 6D is unity, with the balancing of love and wisdom being secondary, or even remedial, if it wasn't adequately learned in 5D. (5D would automatically include balancing of love and wisdom, since that is the nature of STO wisdom, to include love. Love/compassion aren't excluded in 5D, but built upon.)

    6D may include the balancing of love and wisdom, such as Ra has demonstrated in their efforts to correct their past unwise actions. It is often done by choosing a Wanderer sojourn. Hence, many of us might be part of Ra, brushing up on those lessons right now.

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    04-15-2012, 05:38 PM
    (04-15-2012, 04:06 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:
    (04-15-2012, 02:25 PM)Ankh Wrote: sixth density perfecting the balance between the compassion and wisdom.

    Can you tell me where Ra said this?

    Quote:52.9 Questioner: I would just include the question as to why the time of harvest is selected by so many Wanderers as time for incarnation?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are several reasons for incarnation during harvest. They may be divided by the terms self and other-self.

    The overriding reason for the offering of these Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow in incarnative states is the possibility of aiding other-selves by the lightening of the planetary consciousness distortions and the probability of offering catalyst to other-selves which will increase the harvest.

    There are two other reasons for choosing this service which have to do with the self.

    The Wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher density catalyst.

    The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity or members of a societal entity can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfect. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

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    04-15-2012, 05:52 PM
    (04-15-2012, 05:38 PM)Ankh Wrote: Ra: I am Ra. There are several reasons for incarnation during harvest. T

    Right. Ra's referring to 3D incarnation; ie. being a Wanderer. I thought you were referring to work done in 6D...?


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    04-15-2012, 06:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2012, 06:34 PM by Bring4th_Austin.)
    I think the last sentence, "This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected," is stating that sixth-density is where balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected, and this is why a 6D entity may Wander...because it is a lesson easier learned in 3D than 6D, but still a lesson to be learned by a 6D entity.
    Also, Ra describing their own 6D seeking:

    Quote:64.5
    These are the balances we seek, the balances between compassion and wisdom which more and more allow our understanding of experience to be informed that we may come closer to the unity with the One Creator which we so joyfully seek
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    04-15-2012, 07:23 PM
    Austin, so does this mean that one can balance themselves better in 3D than in 6D?

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    04-15-2012, 07:45 PM
    (04-15-2012, 07:23 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Austin, so does this mean that one can balance themselves better in 3D than in 6D?

    I would say much faster instead of better. Smile
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    04-15-2012, 08:19 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2012, 08:21 PM by Monica.)
    (04-15-2012, 06:29 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I think the last sentence, "This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected," is stating that sixth-density is where balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected, and this is why a 6D entity may Wander...because it is a lesson easier learned in 3D than 6D, but still a lesson to be learned by a 6D entity.
    Also, Ra describing their own 6D seeking:

    Quote:64.5
    These are the balances we seek, the balances between compassion and wisdom which more and more allow our understanding of experience to be informed that we may come closer to the unity with the One Creator which we so joyfully seek

    Ah, yes, thank you Austin. I missed the last part of the last sentence, because the rest of the quote was all about lessons learned during 3D incarnation. So I missed the shift in context.

    Are there other quotes expressing other attributes of 6D experience, in addition to this one?


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    04-16-2012, 02:30 AM
    (04-15-2012, 08:19 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Are there other quotes expressing other attributes of 6D experience, in addition to this one?

    Ra, 33:20 Wrote:The sixth-density of a whiteness which contains a golden quality as you would perceive it; these colors having to do with the blending into wisdom of the compassion learned in fourth-density, then in sixth the blending of wisdom back into an unified understanding of compassion viewed with wisdom. This golden color is not of your spectrum but is what you would call alive.

    Ra, 41:3 Wrote:Thus by the sixth density the sun may be visited and inhabited by those dwelling in time/space and may even be partially created from moment to moment by the processes of sixth density entities in their evolution.

    Daddy Ra Wrote:41.4 Questioner: In your last statement did you mean that the sixth density entities are actually creating manifestations of the sun in their density? Could you explain what you meant by that?

    Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

    41.5 Questioner: Then could you say that sixth-density entities are using that mechanism to be more closely co-Creators with the Infinite Creator?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct as seen in the latter portions of sixth density seeking the experiences of the gateway density.

    Daddy Ra Wrote:43.15 Questioner: Then is sixth-density harvest strictly of a social memory complex nature because again we have wisdom and compassion blended back using wisdom?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

    Ra, 59:3 Wrote:The work of sixth density is to unify wisdom and compassion. This entity [Jim] abounds in wisdom. The compassion it is desirous of balancing has, as its antithesis, lack of compassion. In the more conscious being this expresses or manifests itself as lack of compassion for self. We feel this is the sum of suggested concepts for thought which we may offer at this time without infringement.

    Daddy Ra Wrote:64.5 Questioner: Could you describe or tell me of rituals or techniques used by Ra in seeking in the direction of service?

    Ra: I am Ra. To speak of that which sixth-density social memory complexes labor within in order to advance is at best misprision of plain communication for much is lost in transmission of concept from density to density, and the discussion of sixth-density is inevitably distorted greatly.

    However, we shall attempt to speak to your query for it is an helpful one in that it allows us to express once again the total unity of creation. We seek the Creator upon a level of shared experience to which you are not privy and rather than surrounding ourselves in light we have become light. Our understanding is that there is no other material except light. Our rituals, as you may call them, are an infinitely subtle continuation of the balancing processes which you are now beginning to experience.

    We seek now without polarity. Thus we do not invoke any power from without, for our search has become internalized as we become light/love and love/light. These are the balances we seek, the balances between compassion and wisdom which more and more allow our understanding of experience to be informed that we may come closer to the unity with the One Creator which we so joyfully seek.

    Your rituals at your level of progress contain the concept of polarization and this is most central at your particular space/time.
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    04-16-2012, 12:59 PM
    Thanks Ankh. Always good to come back to what goes on in 6D.
    I tell you that if I was ever 6D, I had to give up an awful lot to come to 3D.
    Being here with all our limitations must be totally worth it in the end.
    It makes those events in life pale in comparison, so that I really don't worry about anything.
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    04-16-2012, 02:33 PM
    Thanks for the quotes, Ankh!

    My husband and I make jokes about the orgies on the Sun.
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    04-16-2012, 02:54 PM
    (04-16-2012, 02:33 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: My husband and I make jokes about the orgies on the Sun.

    LOL!! BigSmile

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    04-16-2012, 03:07 PM
    (04-16-2012, 02:54 PM)Ankh Wrote:
    (04-16-2012, 02:33 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: My husband and I make jokes about the orgies on the Sun.

    LOL!! BigSmile

    Yeah, on beautiful sunny days...we look up and say "There's those 6D entities doing it. They're all blissed out, and their ecstatic bliss is filtering down to us in the form of sunflakes. Oh and those solar flares? WOW, must be intense for them!"

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    04-17-2012, 09:56 AM
    Thank you very much, Meerie, godwide_void and Gemini Wolf! Thank you Heart

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    06-05-2012, 11:41 PM
    (01-18-2012, 04:03 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I'm a bit confused by the wanderer identification myself.

    What comfort does one find in identifying themselves as a wanderer? Doesn't it serve as a sort of escapism and separation from the present?

    For me it was primarily a personal quest to know what I am, where I'm from and what my purpose is. Being able to confidently answer all three is of no consequence to the mission; but it does deliver a sense of comfort knowing that the desire and drive to be service to other has a greater function and purpose.

    Quote:How exactly do you guys feel that knowing you are a wanderer helps you in your life?

    It provides a sense of confidence and direction. Confidence in knowing that the message that I'm intuitively channeling from my 6th Density Social Memory Complex is genuine. But it has also permitted me to know my place - when to offer assistance and when to keep restraint. I've learned that it is not my place to 'spread the word' but rather to be a guide to those who are seeking. It's permitting like to attract like which I find to be the purest form of the expression.

    Quote:When I look at the various quizzes and descriptions of wanderer identification, sometimes it seems to me like those depression medication commercials. "Are you sad? Do you feel alone? Like you don't belong?" Honestly, I don't know a single person who hasn't felt this way at one point or another. Also, in relation to plenum's descriptions of 4D, 5D, 6D wanderers, how can we tell someone is a wanderer from that density and not a 3D native who is working in those energy centers, reached that level of spiritual awareness, or wants to be different?

    Maybe someone can help me understand?

    I think those are just very general guidelines. Chances are if someone has found the check sheet, that they are a Wanderer.

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    06-06-2012, 02:01 PM
    I was thinking, aren't all wanderers going home to their density rather than going with the rest into 4D with 3D graduates? I think I may have seen something specific about that from Ra or Q'uo but not where exactly.

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