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    07-09-2012, 11:50 AM
    -- "It is not within my power to change how an other behaves with me or in a given situation. What I can exercise control and will over is how I behave in any situation. I have power over only my behavior."

    This is exactly the principle I have taught my children, indeed, any children I've had the opportunity to influence. It's a very deep realization.

    Would also share the "platinum rule" which has become more of a sales tool, but flows a bit with the discussion you are having here.

    http://www.alessandra.com/abouttony/aboutpr.asp

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    07-09-2012, 02:53 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012, 03:35 PM by Confused.)
    (07-09-2012, 11:50 AM)Ruth Wrote: http://www.alessandra.com/abouttony/aboutpr.asp

    I think I belong to the Relaters category. What about you, Ruth?
    This looks like one great way for Time to reduce to the Now and for Space to reduce to the Here.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-...-know-best

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-...c-violence
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    07-09-2012, 04:42 PM
    I believe that I am actually a balance of all the categories, perhaps with a bit more of the relater. I'm pretty adaptable, can take charge if necessary, I can be very organized and analytical, and although I am not at all controlling, I am a bit of an achiever - though on my own terms of my own goals.

    I was thinking today that perhaps your Mother has set for you an example of loving your abuser. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what I get from what you have said here. I sincerely appreciate your open honesty, and your persistent presence here, Confused.
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    07-09-2012, 04:45 PM
    yeah, good luck with things Confused. How you relate to your mother affects how you relate to all feminine energies.
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    07-09-2012, 09:39 PM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2012, 09:40 PM by Confused.)
    (07-09-2012, 04:42 PM)Ruth Wrote: I was thinking today that perhaps your Mother has set for you an example of loving your abuser.

    Very true, Ruth. My mother has indeed set the example of a person who can still love a most vile abuser. However, no one should allow oneself to be abused in the name of sacrifice and love. It finally ends counterproductive for all. I feel for my mother who ended up being treated and frightened badly by her own son.

    I have displayed manic mood swings and deep frightening violent temper. May be probably bi-polar disorder type. However, she still serves her son with patience and hope, believing all will get well. A son who just refuses to grow up despite almost coming close to middle age. Though, I do not wish to wallow in self-pity and self-loathing in the form of excessive admittance of one's ways of errors, I do feel that this thread is serving as a ray of healing for me and helping me mend my ways. I am being provided with very honest feedback from valuable friends here and it is helping me consciously track myself and catch myself as I interact with my mother.

    As Ra, study of love and light is at the heart of evolution and I think we are all doing that together well here! Smile Heart
    (07-09-2012, 04:45 PM)plenum Wrote: yeah, good luck with things Confused. How you relate to your mother affects how you relate to all feminine energies.

    Thanks, plenum Smile It is very kind and gentle of you, my brother! I love your presence on this thread.
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    07-10-2012, 12:42 AM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2012, 06:20 PM by Confused.)
    NORMAN
    Yes. We were given the greatest gift in
    the history of mankind.
    We were given this magic ball and it
    says: "Imagine what you will and you can
    have it", and we're so primitive, we have
    so many fears that we carry with us, that
    we manifest the worst in us rather than
    the best in us....and that ain't gonna
    change.

    BETH
    Maybe we still have it.

    NORMAN
    What?

    BETH
    The power.
    (beat)
    Maybe we still have the power to manifest
    what we will.

    NORMAN
    If we do still have the power...
    (off her look)
    Then we have the power to forget. To
    manifest a world in which we don't have
    the power.

    Source: Quotes from the movie, Sphere (1998). Picked from http://sfy.ru/?script=sphere_final
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    07-10-2012, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2012, 02:06 PM by Ruth.)
    Good movie. Good script excerpt!

    Being a Mom, I understand your Mom's patience and hope. And I share it with her on your behalf, Confused. Keep manifesting the best in yourself. You're doing great!
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    07-10-2012, 07:04 PM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2012, 07:12 PM by Confused.)
    (07-10-2012, 02:04 PM)Ruth Wrote: And I share it with her on your behalf, Confused.

    Heart (words cannot express the gratitude I feel)
    http://www.odysseyofthesoul.org/freomm/levelsofmind.htm
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    07-11-2012, 12:33 AM
    Quote:Kate: I wish there was a cookbook for life, you know? Recipes telling us exactly what to do. I know, I know, you're gonna say "How else will you learn, Kate."
    Therapist: mm. No, actually I wasn't going to say that. You want to guess again?
    Kate: No, no, go ahead.
    Therapist: Well what I was going to say was, you know better than anyone, it's the recipes that you create yourself that are the best.

    Source: From the movie, No Reservations (2007); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0481141/quotes
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    07-11-2012, 11:00 AM
    Another good one!

    I rarely cook from a recipe. The down side to that is that I can rarely repeat an especially good creation. Each one is new and a bit different from the previous one.

    Heart
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    07-11-2012, 05:20 PM (This post was last modified: 07-11-2012, 05:30 PM by Confused.)
    (07-11-2012, 11:00 AM)Ruth Wrote: Another good one!

    I rarely cook from a recipe. The down side to that is that I can rarely repeat an especially good creation. Each one is new and a bit different from the previous one.

    Heart

    I rarely cook at all! BigSmile

    I am sure your food nourishes the body as beautifully as your words nourish the universe of troubled individuals. You must be filling the cooked food with immense love after all, for your fortunate loved ones.
    I would be so happy if my higher self said the following to me and I would know love. Probably I am being sentimental, mawkish and dependent - I agree. I am dependent on the universe to feel whole, to feel loved and to lose the fear of life that currently reigns in me, keeping me awake at nights. I am vulnerable. Yes.

    Quote:Elliot: You could be happy here, I could take care of you. I wouldn't let anybody hurt you. We could grow up together, E.T.

    Source: From the movie, E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial (1982); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083866/quotes
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    07-11-2012, 07:54 PM
    Good quote there Confused. Yes, I too can feel vulnerable. I sometimes think of death more than life. And work sometimes gets to me.
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    07-11-2012, 09:47 PM
    (07-11-2012, 07:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Good quote there Confused. Yes, I too can feel vulnerable. I sometimes think of death more than life. And work sometimes gets to me.

    Despite our sense of vulnerabilities, let us work towards focusing our will on the spirit of life and living in this world as loving successful men, GW.

    Will you join your hands with mine in your vision and we can resolve to live purposefully, focusing on the good in heaven (macrocosm) and on earth (microcosm)? We deserve to have the best from hereon, I think. We suffered enough.
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    07-12-2012, 08:01 PM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2012, 08:22 PM by Confused.)
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evil...the-shadow
    Quote:Bill: Jo. Things go wrong. You can't explain it, you can't predict it. Killing yourself wo'nt bring your dad back. I'm sorry that he died, but that was a long time ago. You gotta move on. Stop living in the past, and look what you got right in front of you.
    Jo: What are you talking about?
    Bill: Me, Jo.

    Source: From the movie, Twister (1996); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117998/quotes
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    (07-09-2012, 02:53 PM)Confused Wrote:
    (07-09-2012, 11:50 AM)Ruth Wrote: http://www.alessandra.com/abouttony/aboutpr.asp

    I think I belong to the Relaters category. What about you, Ruth?
    This looks like one great way for Time to reduce to the Now and for Space to reduce to the Here.

    me too, relater is what i can relate to most Smile
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    07-13-2012, 07:57 AM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2012, 08:14 AM by Ruth.)
    Confused - have you watched all these movies? I love to watch movies, and as you are showing here, can usually catch at least one little "gem" of universal truth. I think that's true of everyday life, too.

    Meerie - I can relate to your relating.

    BigSmile


    And now - the effects of death and fear over time. I just found this article this morning, looking for gardening information. The article discusses the effects on the soil of killing various insects. Very interesting!

    ""If you look around you, in pretty much every spot something at some time has died — in one place a mouse, in another a grasshopper, in another a deer," he said. "Each one of those places is going to behave totally differently from a microbial point of view. What you are seeing is the legacy of all that has died there."

    Think about that next time you step on a bug.""

    You can read the entire article here:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/15/...l-20120616
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    07-13-2012, 11:21 AM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2012, 11:33 AM by Confused.)
    (07-13-2012, 06:56 AM)Meerie Wrote: me too, relater is what i can relate to most Smile

    See, that is why relate to each other so very well! Smile
    (07-13-2012, 07:57 AM)Ruth Wrote: You can read the entire article here:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/15/...l-20120616

    This from the article you linked, Ruth --
    Quote:"The models we use to determine decomposition rates just assume that the bacteria do their job at a constant rate that isn't dependent on these types of things," Schimel said. "But our understanding is still very primitive — and the bacteria don't read our textbooks."

    That's funny for me!BigSmile
    Quote:Ripkuna: People go when they are ready to go, not when you are. We are all just travelers on the same river, grandparents, parents, sons and daughters. We all have our time on the river. We do what we can before we disappear.

    Source: From the movie, Duma (2005); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361715/quotes
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    He he he he, it's funny for me, too!


    And I haven't seen Duma - but I might have to do so soon!
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    07-13-2012, 08:02 PM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2012, 08:03 PM by Confused.)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roya-r-rad...45001.html
    http://www.sithlegend.com/index.php?page...-dark-side
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    If there were no darkness how would we recognize the light?
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    (07-13-2012, 11:10 PM)Ruth Wrote: If there were no darkness how would we recognize the light?

    Quote:Harvey Dent: The night is darkest just before the dawn. And I promise you, the dawn is coming.

    Source: From the movie, The Dark Knight (2008); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/quotes
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    Hi Confused, its good to see that you are active on this thread Smile

    Hope all is well and ill begin to drop by more often!

    Much love and light!
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    (07-14-2012, 02:01 PM)Xenos Wrote: Hi Confused, its good to see that you are active on this thread Smile

    Hope all is well and ill begin to drop by more often!

    Much love and light!

    Xenos, thank you for dropping by! Heart I hope I will see more of you here. Smile
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    and when it is night here, it is morning there, and afternoon somewhere else.
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    (07-14-2012, 11:34 PM)Ruth Wrote: and when it is night here, it is morning there, and afternoon somewhere else.

    What made you say that suddenly, Ruth? Is it a follow-up to the Batman quote?
    http://www.43things.com/entries/view/4593107
    Quote:Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.' We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we're liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. -- Marianne Williamson
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    http://jungianwork.wordpress.com/2009/11...rspective/
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    07-16-2012, 12:06 AM
    Quote:Jack: Where to, Miss?
    Rose: To the stars.

    Source: From the movie, Titanic (1997); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120338/quotes
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    http://www.mindfulnessmuse.com/individua...hadow-self

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    (07-15-2012, 05:38 AM)Confused Wrote:
    (07-14-2012, 11:34 PM)Ruth Wrote: and when it is night here, it is morning there, and afternoon somewhere else.

    What made you say that suddenly, Ruth? Is it a follow-up to the Batman quote?
    http://www.43things.com/entries/view/4593107
    Quote:Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.' We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we're liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others. -- Marianne Williamson


    Ha ha ha, I don't know exactly. I was a bit rushed for time to post, but had been thinking about "the mysterious nature of time" and light and dark, and light selves and shadow selves, and about how we are so focused here about time and the passing of time, and about accepting our shadow selves, and well, that's just the thought that went through my head.

    I do, often, make myself laugh out loud!

    And someone should tell Jack that we are already in the stars.

    (07-16-2012, 08:15 AM)Confused Wrote: http://www.mindfulnessmuse.com/individua...hadow-self

    I believe I have seen and accepted my self. All of my self.

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    (07-16-2012, 09:11 AM)Ruth Wrote: Ha ha ha, I don't know exactly. I was a bit rushed for time to post, but had been thinking about "the mysterious nature of time" and light and dark, and light selves and shadow selves, and about how we are so focused here about time and the passing of time, and about accepting our shadow selves, and well, that's just the thought that went through my head.


    Smile It is very telling for me that an investigation into the nature of Time has lead the thread into delving into the Subconscious and the Shadow. Sometimes, I vision Space as the Light aspect, with Time being the mysterious dark aspect.

    Is it not also ironic that some 95% of the Universe is said to consist of a mysterious dark matter, a number that is reflected in our brain utilization capabilities as well!

    Moreover, Time may be an aspect of the Divine Feminine too. All these are something that is coming into my consideration, as we together journey in this thread.
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