3d is fun, stop bashing 3d

[Plenum]

although Ra does not mention it, my suspicion is that an integral part of the 6th density cycle is to undergo Wanderer status. This is both to recapitulate some learnings, but also to offer service, at an equal level to the dwelling inhabitants in 3d.

this keeps the Creator humble; but also tests one's ability to hold the love, despite the very real illusion of separate identities and bodies.

3d permits some AMAZING EXPERIENCES; that of the individuated hero's quest, the sense of self-fulfillment in re-discovering one's self, all the madness and adventure of taking wrong turns.

I have had a somewhat challenging life in some respects (haven't we all!), but I value this opportunity so much.

[Patrick]

I feel the same way my friend. I think we are in the process of grounding back into our planet. Living in the here and NOW. The here and now is fun if you wish it so.

[Richard]

Same here...I love this place (3D) and people in it.

Richard

[kdsii]

4D is fully telepathic in nature.
So, how exactly do you pull an awesomely cruel prank on someone?
You can't! I think there are aspects that we will miss once we move on.

although Ra does not mention it, my suspicion is that an integral part of the 6th density cycle is to undergo Wanderer status. This is both to recapitulate some learnings, but also to offer service, at an equal level to the dwelling inhabitants in 3d.

this keeps the Creator humble; but also tests one's ability to hold the love, despite the very real illusion of separate identities and bodies.

3d permits some AMAZING EXPERIENCES; that of the individuated hero's quest, the sense of self-fulfillment in re-discovering one's self, all the madness and adventure of taking wrong turns.

I have had a somewhat challenging life in some respects (haven't we all!), but I value this opportunity so much.

[Richard]

Will we remember 3D once we're fully ensconced in 4D? If we don't, then it doesn't matter.

I have no recollection of 2D....do you?

Richard

[Patrick]

Will we remember 3D once we're fully ensconced in 4D? If we don't, then it doesn't matter.

I have no recollection of 2D....do you?

Richard

But we are veiled now. Yes our 3d experiences will stay in our book of life, but only the distilled parts that you want to keep.

[Richard]

Will we remember 3D once we're fully ensconced in 4D? If we don't, then it doesn't matter.

I have no recollection of 2D....do you?

Richard

But we are veiled now. Yes our 3d experiences will stay in our book of life, but only the distilled parts that you want to keep.

I understand that to be our understanding now, Patrick. But the veil supposedy prevents us from accessing our past lives. But does that include our existances in a previous density?

Maybe we can remember everything between incarnations in any density. But I really wonder if we'll remember 3D when incarnated in 4D. And if we do have vague recollections of 3D...will it even be understandable in a 4D telepathic framework?



Richard

[Brittany]

If you can't be happy where you are, you won't be happy anywhere. :-)

[darklight]

I don't really dislike this 3d place, but it feels so incomplete.

[Plenum]

I don't really dislike this 3d place, but it feels so incomplete.

I used to think that too (the incompleteness thing). But there are 7 subdensities in 3d to play with!

[Siren]

3D experience will be remembered in 4D, but not in the same way an entity in 3D is accustomed to, or familiar with, the concept of "remembering" or "memory."

It is true that each density builds upon the other. However, it also true that each density represents an exponential "leap" in consciousness. A 3D enity does not have the same "mnemonic" capabilities as a 4D entity. Same applies to 2D. A 3D entity actually does have a recollection of "memory" from 2D, but it may not recognize it; it may actually consider certain instinctual patterns or behaviours, for example, as being of a 3D nature, when in fact are more closely associated to learned lessons from 2D experience.

To "remember" does not mean you will remember each one of your zillion incarnations as worm, and amoeba, and pine tree, and whale, and dog, and giraffe, and mammoth, and electric eel, and muhsroom, and berry shrub, etc. as being distinctively separate from one another. What you "harvest" out of the whole experience is the bulk of experience, shall we say, processed and refined and integrated as a whole.

It is simply not particularly useful to individually review your incarnation as a hermit crab or a falcon or a prairie dog. Besides, the "memory" of your incarnation would be limited to the degree of consciousness of that particular lifeform at that time. In other words, you wouldn't "remember" your life as a snail or a wildboar the same way you now remember your childhood as a human being.

Although you could "lock-on" and "zoom-in" into one particular incarnation in 4D, you would be more concerned with the bulk of your experience as a whole, not the tid-bits or the more trivial details of your previous incarnations. Again, your memory in 4D wont be human memory, because your consciousness would be the consciousness of a higher being.

The important thing to remember is: it is your consciousness/soul/energy that is actually moving throughout all these various vehicular forms you call "bodies." And though it is certainly amusing to discuss about how your zebra or grasshopper life must have been, you will soon discover this is rather inconsequential.

Even remembering your other human incarnations on this planet is not all that important. Besides, much of your current knowledge/memory comes from "other lives" already.

You will remember what is relevant to you here and now. And oftentimes you wont be aware that you are actually using learned skills, innate abilities, or talents "borrowed" from other incarnations.

[darklight]

But 2d beings (animals) can sense 3d beings (us) all the time. Why we cant sense 4d beings?

[kdsii]

I've wondered the same thing.
If I remember correctly, they have to lower their vibration within our percievable range.
It would be cool if I could to that to my cat though.
Come up behind him, "BOO!!" and vanish

But 2d beings (animals) can sense 3d beings (us) all the time. Why we cant sense 4d beings?

[βαθμιαίος]

Ra said that the Akashic Records are the potential social memory complex of this planetary sphere. So yes, I'm pretty sure we'll remember not only our own past lives but everyone else's, too.

[darklight]

I've wondered the same thing.
If I remember correctly, they have to lower their vibration within our percievable range.
It would be cool if I could to that to my cat though.
Come up behind him, "BOO!!" and vanish

But 2d beings (animals) can sense 3d beings (us) all the time. Why we cant sense 4d beings?

It must be the 4D "splitting point". The first 3 densities are connected to each other and the polarities are not separated. The space/time in 4D is too complex to sense it because the polarities are seperated. The 4D must be an incredible change.

[jivatman]

In 4D and above the veil is lifted and the presence of the creator becomes an obvious fact.

[Ruth]

Hmmmmmm, I already see the presence of the creator as an obvious fact.

and I agree, plenum, I love it here!

[Siren]

But 2d beings (animals) can sense 3d beings (us) all the time. Why we cant sense 4d beings?

But can they sense you with a 3rd density entity's level of awareness or a 2nd density entity's level of awareness? You are presupposing the perceptual capacities of 2D lifeforms is equal to that of a human. To many 2D entities you are "invisible." Many, many 2D beings are not aware of your existence, and even if you came across them they would probably not comprehend you.

Also, you shouldn't presuppose that we (that is, the entirety of humanity upon this planet) cannot sense 4D beings. There are many who can, many that have, and many that do so in a more or less daily basis; not only sense, but see and interact with them.

You too could, if not physically see, at least sense the presence of 4D entities (even if you don't know it, or can't make any sense of your perceptions at the time).

4D is the density in-between the 3 lower/outer (and more material) and the 3 higher/inner (and more ethereal). In early 4D you are still very much visible. By late 4D you have already learned to "conceal" yourself.

It's all about vibration/consciousness.

[darklight]

But 2d beings (animals) can sense 3d beings (us) all the time. Why we cant sense 4d beings?

But can they sense you with a 3rd density entity's level of awareness or a 2nd density entity's level of awareness? You are presupposing the perceptual capacities of 2D lifeforms is equal to that of a human. To many 2D entities you are "invisible." Many, many 2D beings are not aware of your existence, and even if you came across them they would probably not comprehend you.

Also, you shouldn't presuppose that we (that is, the entirety of humanity upon this planet) cannot sense 4D beings. There are many who can, many that have, and many that do so in a more or less daily basis; not only sense, but see and interact with them.

You too could, if not physically see, at least sense the presence of 4D entities (even if you don't know it, or can't make any sense of your perceptions at the time).

4D is the density in-between the 3 lower/outer (and more material) and the 3 higher/inner (and more ethereal). In early 4D you are still very much visible. By late 4D you have already learned to "conceal" yourself.

It's all about vibration/consciousness.

Dogs and cats for example can be our friends because they are able to sense, smell, hear and see us. Of course, not on a 3D awareness level because they are 2D.

For the last 13 years, the humane society is so changed. I was before like them (I guess I'm changed then), but at this time not anymore. Its hard to explain, but there is some alienation between us. I dont like things what they like. I'm just seeking what I want to know, and the internet is a great tool for that. To get succes in career is no longer intent for me, its just not my way. Im not an unhappy person, I'm happy who I am, but I'm pretty aware this world is not the end of our teach/learning. I dont know if I have learned my lessons sufficient here on Earth, but I do know our teach/learning is infinity and we have to move forward.

[zenmaster]

But 2d beings (animals) can sense 3d beings (us) all the time. Why we cant sense 4d beings?

3d beings can sense 4d beings in a 'psychic', or more subtle, manner. Occurs all the time to those sensitive to that energy and with a 4D being within that field of conscious awareness.

[Sagittarius]

Boring and tedious is more like it. I'am sure my higher-self is getting it's rocks of though.

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I need something a little more exciting for my next 3d experience if I need one, perhaps a world like in the marvel comics, or a lord of the rings type planet, s*** I would even settle for star trek and I hate star trek.

[Cyan]

Boring and tedious is more like it. I'am sure my higher-self is getting it's rocks of though.

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I need something a little more exciting for my next 3d experience if I need one, perhaps a world like in the marvel comics, or a lord of the rings type planet, s*** I would even settle for star trek and I hate star trek.

I like 3d. I dont like the society we've built with 3d.

[Sagittarius]

Boring and tedious is more like it. I'am sure my higher-self is getting it's rocks of though.

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I need something a little more exciting for my next 3d experience if I need one, perhaps a world like in the marvel comics, or a lord of the rings type planet, s*** I would even settle for star trek and I hate star trek.

I like 3d. I dont like the society we've built with 3d.

I feel like Frodo when I want to be Aragon or Gandalf. God Frodo is boring and pathetic. SAMMMM SAMMMMM come hug me SAMMMMMM. lol

[AnthroHeart]

I agree that having a different more exciting 3d experience would be nice. But I'm not sure I could face the challenges of a Lord of the Rings world. I don't do well under pressure.

[Sagittarius]

Hey Gem your doing pretty well considering we are in a giant pressure cooker at the moment.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm actually feeling quite anxious though not much is happening directly to me. I agree with you about the pressure cooker thing. That's why I don't watch the news, or even tv. Just what I read here on this forum.

[Sagittarius]

I'm actually feeling quite anxious though not much is happening directly to me.

The anxiousness is a pre-cursor to s*** hitting the fan, in a good way. Just be glad your not experiencing what I have the last 2 weeks, can't sleep, intense bodily pain everywhere, vibrations feeling like there bending my brain and body in a scramble, can't see properly, can't smoke cigarettes or weed anymore, meat doesn't even taste good anymore, I have bloodshot eyes constantly along with dark circles around my eyes, I literally look like death.

I think I'am going a bit insane because when I think about it I start laughing lol. It just seams funny to me for some reason in a sick and twisted way.

1 week was spiritual death this week has been bodily death, I just can't wait for the mental death. I better get some cool powers after going through this s***.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm not sure about a precursor to s*** hitting the fan. That already happened to me.
Then I got put on meds, so nothing's natural now for me. I just couldn't handle the experience.
Mental breakdowns are no fun.
And I didn't gain any powers out of it. Just an anxiety caused by the meds.

But in all I can't complain. Right now I'm doing ok.

[Cyan]

Funny how I have this inbuilt urge to smoke heavily that started like about 9 months ago and it feels like i should switch from smoking to eating.

I cant help but think its because my guides are telling me that the era from 2010 to about 2014 will be heavy in personal pains due to intense changes that such a period would be accetable to seek pain medication just as for births et cetera.

[GreatSpirit]

Just an anxiety caused by the meds.

Gemini, can I ask what med you are taking? I was on Abilify for a little bit and that $hit made me so jittery I had to take another med for that med. I've been off of it for a few years now thank god. Crazy!!

Anyway, I think Earth has to be one of the toughest 3D realms in this galaxy if 65 million+ Wanderers were coming here to help lighten the vibration. It's kind of like going to a tough school in a NYC ghetto or something like that. You can say present day Earth is the 3rd (no pun intended) world nation of the galaxy and Wanderers are the Red Cross or missionaries.

But if that many Wanderers came here by choice, you know something is wrong here. Than again, the harder something is, the more value you will get out of it at the end.

Humans have it in their heads that since present Earth is the way it is, that all 3D civilizations must be the way we are and that 3D is a very crappy density. I don't think thats the case at all. Maybe most 3D worlds are what we consider better off than we could ever hope to be. Ra mentions that Venus was much more harmonious in 3D which caused it to evolve rapidly.

Overall, 3D doesn't have to be that challenging. It depends on what planet you are on. We ourselves make life challenging.