The mysterious nature of time

[Confused]

This is part 2 of the previously posted video

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http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/...ar_Pt_2_6/

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[Xenos]

Hiya Confused,

Quick thoughts on Octaves and such, based on my gut feel and voice!
I dont know if you remember or not but I once said that the number 8 is the "whole" number of nature.
Much like how we use the base "10" to count our numbers ( we count to 10 and repeat ), nature seems to count to 8 and repeat.

Just like how electron orbitals in the most complex (s,p,d,f, so on) all revolve around filling the valence orbitals into an "octet" formation which eventually forms a circle,
or how the octagon can fit all shapes inside itself (try it yourselves!)
even the musical scale of infinite octaves (we can choose relative scales) harmonize to create a beautiful melody and many more...

Eight, "8" the letter, is merely a flip of the sign that represents intelligent infinity!

I feel that 8 is a very powerful number; if humans understood the rules of the octaves and it's secrets, i think we would do wonders !
I always felt weird that there was only 7 main chakras (that I know of) located on our body.
Chakras, energy centers and such, they all refer to LIGHT in my perspective.

Pure white light, of love and energy is represented by the perfection of 8.
7 colours, ROYGBIV, combining into one to manifest as a whole to create its final form.
And I think that's what we have to do to align ourselves to the intelligent infinity of the universe...
By activating and unlocking our chakras, all 7 of them so we can manifest into "crystal-like white beings"

[Confused]

I always felt weird that there was only 7 main chakras (that I know of) located on our body.
Chakras, energy centers and such, they all refer to LIGHT in my perspective.

Hi my friend, Xenos! Thank you for another beautiful knowledge-filled post. It is a pity that you only visit rarely

With respect to the 7 main chakras and the weirdness about it that you feel in terms of a personal sense of incompleteness, given the importance of the octet number, I think there is a pertinent LOO quote --

38.5 Questioner: Could you tell me how each of the rays, red through violet, would appear in a perfectly balanced and undistorted entity?

Ra: I am Ra. We cannot tell you this for each balance is perfect and each unique. We do not mean to be obscure.

Let us offer an example. In a particular entity, let us use this instrument, the rays may be viewed as extremely even, red, orange, yellow. The green ray is extremely bright. This is, shall we say, balanced by a dimmer indigo. Between these two the point of balance resides, the blue ray of the communicator sparkling in strength above the ordinary. In the violet ray we see this unique spectrograph, if you will, and at the same time the pure violet surrounding the whole; this in turn, surrounded by that which mixes the red and violet ray, indicating the integration of mind, body, and spirit; this surrounded in turn by the vibratory pattern of this entity’s true density.

This description may be seen to be both unbalanced and in perfect balance. The latter understanding is extremely helpful in dealing with other-selves. The ability to feel blockages is useful only to the healer. There is not properly a tiny fraction of judgment when viewing a balance in colors. Of course when we see many of the energy plexi weakened and blocked, we may understand that an entity has not yet grasped the baton and begun the race. However, the potentials are always there. All the rays fully balanced are there in waiting to be activated.

Perhaps another way to address your query is this: In the fully potentiated entity the rays mount one upon the other with equal vibratory brilliance and scintillating sheen until the surrounding color is white. This is what you may call potentiated balance in third density.

I think that the violet and the red sprout outwards and twirl in to form a connection, thus creating a link. May be that signifies the octet formation, in your words, if you will

Much like the electromagnetic fields of the earth curving about to connect with each other (please see following image)



Image Source: http://barbaraeportfolio.blogspot.in/201...ience.html

[Confused]

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[Confused]

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[Meerie]

Hey C et altri
here is Eckhart Tolle speaking about the Dao,
a great lecture imo:

[Patrick]

I love Tolle!

[Ruth]

13+ Things You Never Knew About Your Brain

LOVE this!

What did you think of slide #16?

A couple of these made me laugh.

[Confused]

Hey C et altri

what is et altri, M?

I am sure Tolle's interview must be wonderful. I have great respect for the man and his profound spiritual knowledge.

I look forward to watching the video during the weekend break! Thanks once again, Meerie

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What did you think of slide #16?

It made me realize a bit that I need to work on my attitude to appreciate more of the clarifying light of the sun; rather than infinitely brooding in the mystifying light of the moon.

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2012 - Ascension, Rebirth and the Dimensional Shift

[Meerie]

Hey C et altri

what is et altri, M?

I am sure Tolle's interview must be wonderful. I have great respect for the man and his profound spiritual knowledge.

I look forward to watching the video during the weekend break! Thanks once again, Meerie

et altri = and the others
I was showing off my latin skills, dear C
yeah if you have time, watch it. I greatly enjoyed listening to Tolle
is your internet connection now better, as to watching youtube videos?
I hope so!

[Ruth]

About your link:

2012 - Ascension, Rebirth and the Dimensional Shift


I found it interesting that J-Rod reported that the group split into a spiritual group and a technological group. I wonder how they managed without each other. I wonder if they were still able to communicate telepathically despite their separation. And now I wonder if J-Rod has had any success in curing or preventing the catastrophe to come.

Interesting stuff, Confused.

[Xenos]

Bingo Confused, you rang another bell inside of me.

Just like Earth's how the red and violet rays unify, I think we need to align ourselves just like that. Even the tiniest forms of nature repeat this "fractal" pattern.
Linking the 7 chakras all together allows us to transform into the final true colour of unity = pure light.
When the Earth crosses our milky way's great ravine, Gaia herself will align with the Galactic core
And if we want to tap into this intelligent infinity/existence of the core and feel the pure love and light of it, we must be aligned as well
By meditating, unlocking our chakras and aligning them in balance.
We begin our transformation, our unification with the universe.
I think that is what the harvest means to me, but of course we can part our ways of either being positive or negative.
To unify with the 4th density sphere of Gaia, or the retract away from it and find somewhere else.
Or to simply feel the luke warm state of oneness with the universe...

We will feel it sometime soon, whether it be december 21st or not.
Our body, our spine is a fractal of the octave; the divine temple and gateway built into us.

Im sorry Confused that the way I write is really messy and grammatically wrong; I've been listening to space trance music and my consciousness drifts into this meditative state. Things are becoming clearer, I see the connections and I can understand it; but it is SO hard to put it into words.

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Gaia has prepared for this great harvest by aligning her internal chakras.
This has been seen by many of the natural disturbances that has been occuring often.

Her love to aid us and protect us is present over our sphere, 4th ray activated.
The thing left for us is to align our vessels. She has prepared for this eon and things are so close.

Once the galactic core aligns with Gaia, all it takes is for our spines to be aligned.
With our heads receiving divine energy from above, and our feet feeling the internal energy from below...
We connect with the oneness of universe, the gateway unlocks.
We will still adhere to the 3D sphere density of choice when the gateway unlocks,
and there will be a choice for us as we "walk the step of lights".



Again, bursts of words. ahhhhhguwaheufisoidju this is such a weird feeling. This song does something to me! Hit 1:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msX6OeiKi9M

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks for your words Xenos. They made sense to me, and I enjoyed them.
I do believe Gaia is having her chakras aligned. I have big trouble putting into words what I'm feeling and what I'm experiencing as well.

I listened to that song you posted.
I like this one at the 1 minute mark. It really does something to me too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llyWxME9XmA

[Confused]

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Once the galactic core aligns with Gaia, all it takes is for our spines to be aligned.
With our heads receiving divine energy from above, and our feet feeling the internal energy from below...
We connect with the oneness of universe, the gateway unlocks.
We will still adhere to the 3D sphere density of choice when the gateway unlocks,
and there will be a choice for us as we "walk the step of lights".

I love your writing, Xenos! I think you described a very probable situation there, in terms of what the Harvest might be. Since the knowledge of the Harvest has freewill repercussions in terms of how we humans will behave, I think Ra left it vague to some extent, so that we do our own research while yet having to polarize in the middle of the uncertainty. If Harvest really is spontaneous with the 3D earth not existing beyond a particular time frame in the near future, then many humans who know about it with certainty may try to wait it out, instead of using their self-given opportunity to polarize within this incarnation. Or those at their base who are negative, may not be able to perceive their orientation of darkness within and may try to polarize positive, which may create confusion within themselves. There are lot of nuances here.

One more clue, in my opinion, in terms of the Harvest is the following underlined statement of dear Ra from 2.6:

The proper alignment is the head pointed twenty degrees north-by-northeast. This is the direction from which the newer or New Age distortions of love/light, which are less distorted, are emanating from, and this instrument will find comfort therein. This is a sensitive instrument, by which we mean the distortions which enter her mind/body/spirit complex come from any of her senses.

It looks like there is some incoming radiation from that direction, in relation with the earth, that has been growing in strength for a while. My intuition says that that incoming radiation has something to do with the phenomenon of Harvest. In my previous posts in this thread, I have been paying attention to the Cygnus constellation, since it appears to be one that is placed in that direction. A researcher named Andrew Collins, whose work I have cited and attached before, believes that radiation from this constellation or from a particular star (Cygnus X-3) within this constellation may be responsible for evolutionary step-ups on our planet.

I think it is right that we should never know whether the Harvest is spontaneous or drawn-out (i.e.,gradual) at a certainty of 100%, until it is completed. It has much too deep freewill repercussions, the underpinning cog of the universe around which the entire magnificent creation of the One Infinite Creator turns. Until then, we will keep speculating, I guess. As we celebrate the wonderful creation of the ONE, let us honor the most sacred principle of freewill, while yet researching and discovering together. I think at its deepest essence, the universe does not take easily to or forgive freewill violations, either done wittingly or unwittingly.

Love you, Xenos, my brother!

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About your link:

2012 - Ascension, Rebirth and the Dimensional Shift


I found it interesting that J-Rod reported that the group split into a spiritual group and a technological group. I wonder how they managed without each other. I wonder if they were still able to communicate telepathically despite their separation. And now I wonder if J-Rod has had any success in curing or preventing the catastrophe to come.

Interesting stuff, Confused.

Our joint prayers and will can make the change, Ruth. We humans have to link hands and proclaim our intention to have a smooth and beautiful transition. Our intention, will, drive and unity to accommodate and perform with each other our grand obeisance (or dance) to the universe is what is going to largely determine whether there is going to be 'success' (as we call it) or a difficult path of forward movement.

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Hey C et altri
here is Eckhart Tolle speaking about the Dao,
a great lecture imo:

Dear Meerie, I am so very grateful to you for this video!

Beyond the wonderful message of the Tao, the video is worth watching just to enjoy the kind and childish, but spiritually knowledgeable, guffaw of Tolle!

Thanks, lovely Meerie

[Meerie]

I just discovered this gem on youtube, more than 7 hrs of Eckhart Tolle:



it is the audio version of his book "the power of now".
Listening to him is such a joy

[Plenum]

are you guys Tolle fans?

I've never really gotten into the guy ... maybe seen a minute of his presentations, not read any of his books.

he's enlightened, right?

[Patrick]

are you guys Tolle fans?
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Yep.

His book, Practicing the Power of Now is really short and really good.

[Meerie]

are you guys Tolle fans?

I've never really gotten into the guy ... maybe seen a minute of his presentations, not read any of his books.

he's enlightened, right?

aren't you a fan? if not, take away your "like" from my post, immediately!!!!

I like him. Besides he is german which should make it easier for you to like him too

[Confused]

are you guys Tolle fans?

I've never really gotten into the guy ... maybe seen a minute of his presentations, not read any of his books.

he's enlightened, right?

In my case, it is more the message of the Tao that Tolle presents so lucidly that is greatly attractive. I adore this ancient Chinese philosophy of 'The Way', and its exhortation to seekers to align themselves with the undergirding flow of the universe, which is at a more deeper level characterized by mystery.

In my case, it is a matter of loving the message more than the messenger :p

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are you guys Tolle fans?
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Yep.

His book, Practicing the Power of Now is really short and really good.

Your nuggets of insights are no less powerful, in my opinion, Patrick; though you wish to conceal your glow under the bushel!

The wisdom that many seekers on this forum possess is of a really beautiful quality.

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I like him. Besides he is german which should make it easier for you to like him too

In my next birth, I want to be a German so that I will be liked more by you!

[Meerie]

I like him. Besides he is german which should make it easier for you to like him too

In my next birth, I want to be a German so that I will be liked more by you!

Let's hope that our next births are beyond silly "denominations" that only serve to divide us, such as countries, states, nationalities, and instead as the citizens of the universe that we truly are!

[AnthroHeart]

Or members of the Confederation.

[Confused]

Let's hope that our next births are beyond silly "denominations" that only serve to divide us, such as countries, states, nationalities, and instead as the citizens of the universe that we truly are!

Well said, Meerie!

I too shall jump into the Hippie bandwagon along with you then

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Or members of the Confederation.

Yes, GW, I also have a thing or two to say to the members of the Confederation, while lodged in time/space

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This is a video Cygnus Mystery: Cosmic Star Pt.3/6

[Confused]

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[Confused]

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[Ruth]

I like him. Besides he is german which should make it easier for you to like him too

In my next birth, I want to be a German so that I will be liked more by you!
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Let's hope that our next births are beyond silly "denominations" that only serve to divide us, such as countries, states, nationalities, and instead as the citizens of the universe that we truly are!
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I'm with you in this wish, Meerie my sister/friend!

And I'm joining hands with you, Confused, as we dance and "proclaim our intention to have a smooth and beautiful transition."

And when I watch this Tolle video that Meerie posted, starting at about :09 - :25 or so I can see him changing from Human German to Citizen of the Universe. Watch him closely! It is a very beautiful thing to see.

Xenos - I, too, love your thinking and your writing. I completely understand what you mean about not being able to put into words the spiritual things we see and hear and feel. You, in my opinion, do a very fine job of this and for that I thank you!

Patrick - <<<<<hugs>>>>> - You shine!

And plenum - you make me smile!

and now I've mussed up my quotes, but I don't care. I think y'all will know what I was trying to respond to, right?

[Cyan]

Countries should be thought of as "large collections based on voluntary intermingling along geographic lines" (sub logos)

and

States as "large collections based on voluntary intermingling along geographic lines within one unified whole concept but with degrees of separation within that unified whole" (sub sub logos)

and

Nationality as "contract between a social memory group as to permanent membership/resonance with an idea"

That way its possible to say

I'm primarily a creator (logos) of my own creation in SOME form (Even if not right now)

Beyond that my Sub-logos is (earth) my sub sub logos is my nation and my sub sub sub logos is my city. This seems, as you correctly put it, stupid beyond all measure.

But what if we make it voluntary.

So, lets keep the first part intact, i'm primarily my own logos.

But beneath that my Sub-Logos (in a way) would be association with the idea of Ra (spread love/light within this whole thing)

And my sub-sub-logos would be the way through which my associations with the various power blocks i wish to form my personality (in my case, northren europe culture)

So.

If i move from where i am now and start assimilating into say, california, I'll start to shift from my sub sub logos of "northren europe" into a sub sub logos of "california" while still retaining a "ra" social memory complex (sub-logos kind of) and my original sub sub logos nature.

That way, if that makes sense, something like Ra would actually form into a "nation" or a "con-federation" in real political developement in our "subjetive future".

I doubt we'll get rid of political structures any time soon, i think we'll be adding a whole lot of them but make them as irrelevant for average day to day interactions as the kind of lug nuts you want in your metal shack wall.

Edit: I'm working on the theory that most 4th D positives will initially seek to build "the perfect harmonic society" and realise just how pointlessly easy it is and very VERY quickly turn politics into a kind of debate about which method of providing toiletpaper for the hospitals is better for the microseconds of better delivery time that one alternative over another will provide.

[Confused]

Edit: I'm working on the theory that most 4th D positives will initially seek to build "the perfect harmonic society" and realise just how pointlessly easy it is and very VERY quickly turn politics into a kind of debate about which method of providing toiletpaper for the hospitals is better for the microseconds of better delivery time that one alternative over another will provide.

Cyan, I think that is pretty insightful. Probably one of the very reasons why the Logos had to thicken the veil so much so as to force 3D entities into making a choice. It is amazing how the most powerful decisions of the guardians and the octave keepers is so much in alignment with just pure and simple commonsense, while we would like to mystify and make it appear extremely complex (just my opinion). In line with your theory, I think the following quote serves as supporting testimony, though in a different context.

77.17 Questioner: Would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, positive polarity. There was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function of only the positive polarization evolving from the original creation of our sub-Logos?

Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true-color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.

Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.
Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.

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I think y'all will know what I was trying to respond to, right?

Of course, dear Ruth!

[Confused]

Cygnus Mystery: Cosmic Star Pt.5/6

[Confused]

Cygnus Mystery: Cosmic Star Pt.6/6

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Jake Sully: [as Jake pleads for Eywa's help in attacking the "Sky People"] If Grace is there with you - look in her memories - she can show you the world we come from. There's no green there. They killed their Mother, and they're gonna do the same here. More Sky People are gonna come. They're gonna come like a rain that never ends. Unless we stop them. They chose me for something. I will stand and fight. You know I will. But I need a little help here.

Neytiri: Our great mother does not take sides, Jake; she protects the balance of life.

Jake Sully: It was worth a try.

Source: From the movie, Avatar (2009); http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/quotes

[AnthroHeart]

Yes, GW, I also have a thing or two to say to the members of the Confederation, while lodged in time/space

I've heard when you cross over to time/space it's like waking up from a dream, and suddenly all the troubles of your life seem so unimportant.