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    09-13-2012, 12:55 PM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012, 01:11 PM by Confused.)
    (09-13-2012, 09:05 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
    (09-09-2012, 12:25 PM)Confused Wrote: Yes, GW, I also have a thing or two to say to the members of the Confederation, while lodged in time/space Dodgy

    I've heard when you cross over to time/space it's like waking up from a dream, and suddenly all the troubles of your life seem so unimportant.

    What do you mean by crossing over into time/space, Gemini? I am not sure I understand what exactly you mean there. Blush
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    09-13-2012, 01:27 PM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012, 01:28 PM by Patrick.)
    (09-13-2012, 12:55 PM)Confused Wrote:
    (09-13-2012, 09:05 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
    (09-09-2012, 12:25 PM)Confused Wrote: Yes, GW, I also have a thing or two to say to the members of the Confederation, while lodged in time/space Dodgy

    I've heard when you cross over to time/space it's like waking up from a dream, and suddenly all the troubles of your life seem so unimportant.

    What do you mean by crossing over into time/space, Gemini? I am not sure I understand what exactly you mean there. Blush

    Dying. We are in space/time and we go to time/space after death. Smile
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    09-13-2012, 01:58 PM
    (09-13-2012, 01:27 PM)Patrick Wrote:
    (09-13-2012, 12:55 PM)Confused Wrote:
    (09-13-2012, 09:05 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
    (09-09-2012, 12:25 PM)Confused Wrote: Yes, GW, I also have a thing or two to say to the members of the Confederation, while lodged in time/space Dodgy

    I've heard when you cross over to time/space it's like waking up from a dream, and suddenly all the troubles of your life seem so unimportant.

    What do you mean by crossing over into time/space, Gemini? I am not sure I understand what exactly you mean there. Blush

    Dying. We are in space/time and we go to time/space after death. Smile

    Thanks, Patrick Smile I just wanted to be sure I understood that well, for I was wondering whether GW was referring to some spiritual practice of ingress into t/s that does not involve bodily death.

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    09-13-2012, 02:14 PM
    I think substances like Ayahuasca can take one into time/space as well.

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    09-13-2012, 02:36 PM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012, 02:37 PM by Conifer16.)
    (09-13-2012, 09:05 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
    (09-09-2012, 12:25 PM)Confused Wrote: Yes, GW, I also have a thing or two to say to the members of the Confederation, while lodged in time/space Dodgy

    I've heard when you cross over to time/space it's like waking up from a dream, and suddenly all the troubles of your life seem so unimportant.

    what happens if your life was amazing? :-P do you wake up and go "wow, that was a wonderful dream? :-P
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    09-13-2012, 03:46 PM
    I've heard many times that your life flashes before your eyes. So you have all the time you want to go into detail if you wish. You learn the lessons from your life.

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    09-13-2012, 09:13 PM (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012, 09:22 PM by Confused.)
    I ran a search for t/s at lawofone.info. It looks like t/s is also experienced during dreaming, sexual energy transfer and in the process of making connection with one's higher self. I think the key lies in spiritual adepthood for conscious experience of it. Otherwise, an individual will just experience and will not even appreciate or realize it, I guess. I do not know. Let the quotes speak for themselves.

    Quote:86.15 Questioner: If it is of any value to know that would you tell me why the dreaming process works like that?

    Ra: I am Ra. The portions of the dreaming process which are helpful for polarization and also for the vision of the mystic take place in time/space and, consequently, use the bridge from metaphysical to physical for what seems to be a brief period of your space/time. The time/space equivalent is far greater. The bridge remains, however, and traduces each distortion of mind, body, and spirit as it has received the distortions of energy influxes so that healing may take place. This healing process does not occur with the incidence of rapid eye movement but rather occurs largely in the space/time portion of the mind/body/spirit complex using the bridge to time/space for the process of healing to be enabled.

    Quote:75.36 Questioner: How does the use of the magical ritual invoking the magical personality aid the mind/body/spirit complex totality? Could you expand on the answer that you gave in the last session with respect to that?

    Ra: I am Ra. When the magical personality is properly and efficaciously invoked the self has invoked its Higher Self. Thus a bridge betwixt space/time and time/space is made and the sixth-density magical personality experiences directly the third-density catalyst for the duration of the working. It is most central to deliberately take off the magical personality after the working in order that the Higher Self resume its appropriate configuration as analog to the space/time mind/body/spirit.

    Quote:87.27 Questioner: Would you do that?

    Ra: I am Ra. You are correct in assuming that the energy of which we speak in discussing sexual energy transfers is a form of vibratory bridge between space/time and time/space. Although this distinction is not apart from that which follows, that which follows may shed light upon that basic statement.

    Due to the veiling process the energy transferred from male to female is different than that transferred from female to male. Due to the polarity difference of the mind/body/spirit complexes of male and female the male stores physical energy, the female mental and mental/emotional energy. When third-density sexual energy transfer is completed the male will have offered the discharge of physical energy. The female is, thereby, refreshed, having far less physical vitality. At the same time, if you will use this term, the female discharges the efflux of its stored mental and mental/emotional energy, thereby offering inspiration, healing, and blessing to the male which by nature is less vital in this area.

    At this time may we ask for one more full query.


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    09-13-2012, 09:21 PM
    I think time/space is accessed any time DMT is produced in the pineal gland or else taken in another form, such as Ayahuasca as GemeniFox mentioned.

    DMT is synthesized during sleep, sexual intercourse, birth, death, near-death experiences and so on. DMT can also be synthesized through deep focus of awareness, such as meditation.
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    09-13-2012, 09:28 PM
    (09-13-2012, 09:21 PM)Spaced Wrote: I think time/space is accessed any time DMT is produced in the pineal gland or else taken in another form, such as Ayahuasca as GemeniFox mentioned.

    DMT is synthesized during sleep, sexual intercourse, birth, death, near-death experiences and so on. DMT can also be synthesized through deep focus of awareness, such as meditation.

    Ah, that shed a lot of light, Spaced! Pineal is the same location as of the indigo chakra, isn't it? So essentially conscious working with time/space means indigo ray work then? Indigo ray work is work with intelligent energy too. I think it all is adding up into my framework of understanding now in a more coherent manner.

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    09-13-2012, 09:31 PM
    I've been reading this book:

    [Image: 2aAlv.jpg]

    I find it very illuminating, highly recommended Smile
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    09-13-2012, 09:49 PM
    Thanks, Spaced! It would be very exciting if you can share some relevant insightful information from the book now and then, when and what you think appropriate. Just like you introduced the thread to DMT. Smile I think it has a very important role in the schema of time/space understanding.
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    09-14-2012, 02:34 AM
    I found some very cool clips on youtube...

    I was always a fan of techno music, specifically in the trance/progressive area.

    Yesterday I found a whole new area of trance called "GoaTrance"
    Mainly this genre of techno seems to mostly involve those who take LSD (ENTHEOGENS!) though...
    However it seems like many of these tracks seems to "tingle" and awaken many of the people who listen to it (based on comments).

    I find it very interesting that most of the songs sound very psychedelic, utilizing the deeper, ambient tones which really feel like you are in some sort of spiral of vibration downwards. When I closed my eyes and listening to a couple of these songs, I felt a very strong sense of RED appearing in my eyes. Very earthly, fiery but powerful. Sounds almost like one of the audio clips of planets that someone posted (can't remember who).

    My speculation is that it seems to help direct vibrational energy lower and lower to your red chakra, perhaps tingling/tickling the kundalini?!

    Anyways, give some a listen and tell me what you all feel! Sometimes it may feel a bit dark and murky but keep intentions of love and light! BigSmile

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdYjTfwiq...re=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkIJx0nXNaI

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    09-14-2012, 07:38 PM (This post was last modified: 09-14-2012, 08:07 PM by Confused.)
    (09-14-2012, 02:34 AM)Xenos Wrote: I found some very cool clips on youtube...

    I was always a fan of techno music, specifically in the trance/progressive area.

    Yesterday I found a whole new area of trance called "GoaTrance"
    Mainly this genre of techno seems to mostly involve those who take LSD (ENTHEOGENS!) though...
    However it seems like many of these tracks seems to "tingle" and awaken many of the people who listen to it (based on comments).

    I find it very interesting that most of the songs sound very psychedelic, utilizing the deeper, ambient tones which really feel like you are in some sort of spiral of vibration downwards. When I closed my eyes and listening to a couple of these songs, I felt a very strong sense of RED appearing in my eyes. Very earthly, fiery but powerful. Sounds almost like one of the audio clips of planets that someone posted (can't remember who).

    My speculation is that it seems to help direct vibrational energy lower and lower to your red chakra, perhaps tingling/tickling the kundalini?!

    Anyways, give some a listen and tell me what you all feel! Sometimes it may feel a bit dark and murky but keep intentions of love and light! BigSmile

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdYjTfwiq...re=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkIJx0nXNaI

    Xenos, probably a relevant quote:

    Quote:6.1 Questioner: We would like to continue the material from yesterday.

    Ra: I am Ra. This is well with us.

    We proceed now with the third area of teach/learning concerning the development of the energy powers of healing.

    The third area is the spiritual complex which embodies the fields of force and consciousness which are the least distorted of your mind/body/spirit complex. The exploration and balancing of the spirit complex is indeed the longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed, balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the instrument is then ready to proceed with the great work.

    That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the entity’s individual energy of will upwards, and from the streamings of the creative fire and wind downwards.

    The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call paranormal abilities, is effected by the opening of a pathway or shuttle into intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

    At this time we feel these exercises suffice for your beginning. We will, at a future time, when you feel you have accomplished that which is set before you, begin to guide you into a more precise understanding of the functions and uses of this gateway in the experience of healing.

    http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/H...index.html
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    Consciousness, Causality and Quantum Physics
    This is verbatim from the attached web link:

    Quote:Quantum, in physics, discrete natural unit, or packet, of energy, charge, angular momentum, or other physical property. Light, for example, appearing in some respects as a continuous electromagnetic wave, on the submicroscopic level is emitted and absorbed in discrete amounts, or quanta; and for light of a given wavelength, the magnitude of all the quanta emitted or absorbed is the same in both energy and momentum. These particle-like packets of light are called photons, a term also applicable to quanta of other forms of electromagnetic energy such as X rays and gamma rays.

    All phenomena in submicroscopic systems (the realm of quantum mechanics) exhibit quantization: observable quantities are restricted to a natural set of discrete values. When the values are multiples of a constant least amount, that amount is referred to as a quantum of the observable. Thus Planck's constant h is the quantum of action, and h/ (i.e., h/2 ) is the quantum of angular momentum, or spin.

    Source: http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/21st_centur...lec12.html

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    09-15-2012, 10:36 PM
    Wow, I don't understand any of that. All I get is "wah wah wah wah wah"

    Today I celebrated my 60th trip around the sun. would that be h/60?

    I had something pretty clever to say about the mysterious nature of time, but I fell asleep on the couch and can't remember any of it now.

    Oh well, love and light to you all!
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    09-15-2012, 10:58 PM
    i understood all of that :-P

    happy birthday ruth :-D
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    (09-15-2012, 10:36 PM)Ruth Wrote: Wow, I don't understand any of that. All I get is "wah wah wah wah wah"

    Today I celebrated my 60th trip around the sun. would that be h/60?

    I had something pretty clever to say about the mysterious nature of time, but I fell asleep on the couch and can't remember any of it now.

    Oh well, love and light to you all!

    Happy birthday, dear Ruth! Heart
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    i seriously understood all that. lol i wasn't sure i would :-) all these years learning have paid off with a good knowledge of quantum physics for a layman :-P
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    (09-16-2012, 01:14 AM)Conifer16 Wrote: i seriously understood all that. lol i wasn't sure i would :-) all these years learning have paid off with a good knowledge of quantum physics for a layman :-P

    Conifer, would it be possible for you to summarize and present your insights from what you read, please? I am really glad that you took the time to read! Thank you for cementing my purpose in terms of me posting all that! Heart
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    (09-16-2012, 04:24 AM)Confused Wrote:
    (09-16-2012, 01:14 AM)Conifer16 Wrote: i seriously understood all that. lol i wasn't sure i would :-) all these years learning have paid off with a good knowledge of quantum physics for a layman :-P

    Conifer, would it be possible for you to summarize and present your insights from what you read, please? I am really glad that you took the time to read! Thank you for cementing my purpose in terms of me posting all that! Heart

    Yes, please Conifer, please? And please don't make it sound like wah wah wah wah wah.

    BigSmile
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    09-17-2012, 12:53 AM (This post was last modified: 09-17-2012, 01:43 AM by Confused.)
    Oh dear GREAT mother of ALL Creation, O Glorious WOMB of the ALL, please give us the strength to run this race of service to you with honor, love, light and wisdom. Descend thy spirit on us, as we run this race of service to you, collecting and synthesizing our experiences for the sacred purpose of the ALL SELF knowing its own SELF Heart



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    Milky Way humming in ‘mysterious haze of microwave emissions’
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    (09-19-2012, 12:19 PM)Confused Wrote: Spacetime: A Smoother Brew Than We Knew

    I like that spacetime is foamy.

    And that the Milky Way hums!

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    09-20-2012, 11:57 AM (This post was last modified: 09-20-2012, 12:11 PM by Confused.)
    (09-20-2012, 10:32 AM)Ruth Wrote: I like that spacetime is foamy.

    Hello, Ruth, do you now remember the clever thing you wanted to say about time, before you fell asleep on the couch? BigSmile

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    LOL - nah. It was something to do with why I read "wah wah wah" instead of what is written. Something to do with no more trying to figure everything out, trying to determine what "is", and just relaxing and loving and having a good time and stuff.

    Something along those lines.

    Not to say I plan to stop learning new things, but rather that I no longer feel so driven to draw conclusions. I've learned to just be still inside myself and let the learning come to me as it will.

    You know, old people talk.

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