Is there a limit to pain?

[AnthroHeart]

Is there a physical limit to how much pain one can experience?

Are many in 3D experiencing that limit (if any)?

There is a magazine called Pain or something like that where they research pain.

Since all are one, I too would have experienced this level of pain.

And what kind of Logos would allow it's beings to experience such pain?

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

Nooo!

This, is exactly what I have been avoiding imagining this entire time!

Some people like the pain, but it obviously still hurts, and extreme pain, like graphic horrendous pain.

What's the opposite of pain???

Edit: I imagine the tolerance rises as one endures/suffers it. The limit being loss of consciousness, the max being death, and the tolerance making the max higher and higher along with the limit. Apparently. I have no idea what the worst pain imaginable is, I don't want to heh.

[Bourbon Betty]

Once you get sufficient pain you get disembodied and still exist and at that point you notice pain as the degree of embarresment of the situation you are in and how much you have to live without a live for that pain to go away.

In other words, if you are in sufficient embarresment for the universe to stop existing you will be in pain for an infinity, but on the upside, at least you'll live forever.

[Plenum]

Hi Gemini: your thread was double posted, so the other one was taken offline

[earth_spirit]

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[AnthroHeart]

A Q'uo channeling said that Creator experiences ever increasing joy and agony.

[The_Tired_Philosopher]

Weird reality I live in :l

[Stranger]

Is there a physical limit to how much pain one can experience?

Yes, it is defined by the Logos, who is interested in pain's capacity to expand the diversity of experience, but NOT in bottomless suffering.

[Karl]

You will usually pass-out after a certain pain threshold is reached. This can be circumvented by using stimulants that force you to maintain consciousness, allowing for deeper and greater agony to be experienced.

[anagogy]

Is there a physical limit to how much pain one can experience?

Are many in 3D experiencing that limit (if any)?

There is a magazine called Pain or something like that where they research pain.

Since all are one, I too would have experienced this level of pain.

And what kind of Logos would allow it's beings to experience such pain?

My understanding is that no being is given more than they are able to handle.  Obviously, there are beings who commit suicide so some would argue with that.  I would counter that they were able to handle it, they just underestimated themselves, and chose to check out before things could turn around.

You can't experience yin, without potentiating yang.  And vice versa.  And you know what you are not, to more clearly know what you are.  The darkness provides a contrasting backdrop for the light, even if darkness is ultimately an illusion.  When does a candle appear most bright?  In the daylight, or in the darkness?

And for every pain a being experiences, there will be a corresponding pleasure.  Back and forth.  Balance and counterbalance.  And in the end, or the beginning, depending on your perspective, everything comes to rest in the middle, the still center.  There is a peace there that is not dualistic.  It is the peace that is the reconciliation of karma, the reconciliation of yin and yang.

And the Logos that would allow beings to experience such things is the one that allows for absolute free will.

[AnthroHeart]

Pain is probably purely evolutionary.

[anagogy]

Pain is probably purely evolutionary.

It absolutely is. Not in the sense that it is simply the result of natural selection, but in the fact that if you perceived nothing as aversive, by what motivation would you reach for new experiences? If nothing is aversive, nothing is attractive either. You can't have pleasure, without pain. If you got accustomed to one level of pleasure, a lesser level of pleasure would then become a kind of pain to you. That is the nature of expansion, and relative existence.

[Matt1]

The limit is what you decide it will be.

[upensmoke]

The limit is what you decide it will be.

I was gonna say that to say there is not limit because isnt everything infinite ? but i like yours much better

[Patrick]

...what kind of Logos would allow it's beings to experience such pain?

On the reason for the existence of pain...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0316.aspx

...The suffering, the questioning, the doubting, the pain, and the suffering and agony of all that you experience is for one thing: to hollow you and to focus that emptiness so that it is ready to receive. For those upon the service-to-others path, those to whom we wish to speak, what is being received is infinite love and as it flows through you into a channel that you have cleared it radiates into all of your Earth world. It is for this that you came...

[Aion]

Yeah, death or unconsciousness.

[Glow]

Yeah, death or unconsciousness.

I think this stands for both physical and emotional pain.
At some point with either it becomes death or unconsciousness.(sleep)

I think I maxed myself out this life. My husband jokes that over loading myself to the brink of my capacity seems like exactly the way I would consiously plan an incarnation. Progress/growth/progress.

I wonder though sometimes if we don't indeed sometimes bite off more than we can chew.
This life I've survived it and found a way, but I'm only 39, I am growing quite uninterested in further catylist. I've grown enough for my years what the heck else could I possibly have thought I'd need to cram into this life? im sure others here can relate.

[YinYang]

And what kind of Logos would allow it's beings to experience such pain?

This question of yours reminded me of Stephen Fry calling God 'utterly utterly evil'... although from personal experience I think that level of anger directed to God/religion is fertile soil to start the search.

Something I have wondered about once, is Ra saying our logos has a bias towards kindness.... imagine what this planet might have been like if he/she/it had an opposite bias? Good grief... are there logoi with an opposite bias? Of course you can't answer that, no-one knows, but the thought...

[Minyatur]

In my view the Logos allows itself to experience.

[Aion]

Yeah, death or unconsciousness.

I think this stands for both physical and emotional pain.
At some point with either it becomes death or unconsciousness.(sleep)

I think I maxed myself out this life. My husband jokes that over loading myself to the brink of my capacity seems like exactly the way I would consiously plan an incarnation. Progress/growth/progress.

I wonder though sometimes if we don't indeed sometimes bite off more than we can chew.
This life I've survived it and found a way, but I'm only 39, I am growing quite uninterested in further catylist. I've grown enough for my years what the heck else could I possibly have thought I'd need to cram into this life?  im sure others here can relate.

Perhaps you need to empty your cup then?

[Reaper]

If you go over about 50 del units of pain it will flat out kill you most times. There's also a chance the brain will dissociate from reality, which results in things like multiple personalities.

[Aion]

Unless you give birth in which case you go way over that and then your body convinces you you didn't.

[Patrick]

Unless you give birth in which case you go way over that and then your body convinces you you didn't.

Right after my child was born, I asked a nurse: "How can anyone do this more than once?!".  She said with a smile: "People forget".  And I was not even the one giving birth, I was just supporting.
 

[Reaper]

It also used to be incredibly common for people to die during or immediately after giving birth. When you really look at it, having a baby is an incredibly traumatic experience. Glad I never had the desire to reproduce.

[Aion]

Yeah the actual birthing part is pretty intense, which is probably why nature did the whole amnesia thing, but I guess the love that comes from creating that new life is worth it.