(05-24-2011, 12:06 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Zenmaster, not sure that the veil has anything to do with mechanics of the brain. Consider what Ra had to say on the matter:Not sure what you're trying to point out. The brain is the body's localized (space/time) 'interface' to the mind (nonlocal time/space) - it's what determines our sense faculties and nature of how we access the mind (piecemeal, separating, as tiny candle in the dark). So the veil certainly has a lot to do with the phenomenal mechanics of the brain. What's 'hidden behind the veil' is the unconscious - the totality of one's invested experience in self up to a point.
Questioner: This veil then occurs between what we now call the unconscious and conscious minds. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us establish that both before and after the veil the same conditions existed in time/space; that is, the veiling process is a space/time phenomenon.
It can be inferred that the veil is a noun/state, not a verb/function.
(05-24-2011, 12:17 AM)Icaro Wrote:That's the noumenal 'reality' that comes from a certain amount of acceptance, and without it, probably a big reason why Ra said 'understanding is not of this density'. Seeing more of time/space, the more fundamental principles, or 'language' if you will, that give rise to the phenomenal world is not having to mistake the 'finger pointing at the moon' for the moon itself. What was once hidden, is revealed in a manner that is more authentic or essential.(05-23-2011, 02:59 PM)zenmaster Wrote: 'Seeing' at that gnostic level we can see the object as an 'interior' (time/space). That's where the notions of realm of forms, or symbolism, comes from.
Which goes back to the other thread about understanding and viewing the present moment for what it is. I find myself during daily activity pausing every now and then and viewing the illusion with gnostic eyes.