(10-24-2010, 10:20 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Wow, great discussion! I don't know if I can add anything at this point, but I will try.
Here's the point that I feel is being missed, and maybe the problem is that we lack terms for this type of discussion. I'm fine with saying that Ra seeks without polarity because there is no more negative path for their positivity to contrast with. But the point I've been trying to articulate is that nothing essential about Ra changed when the negatives abandoned their path. Ra was balanced and radiant before the paths merged; they are balanced and radiant still. Apparently people here are willing to call the early-sixth density Ra positive but not the late-sixth density. OK, fine, but what do we call them? They are certainly not neutral, are they? They are not offering their aid to negative groups, are they? They still have a horse in the race.
if it was as such, ra would note that down.
they say the polarities become one, they merge. they dont say that they as Ra, remain as they were.
what do we call it, is the question that is being discussed here.
Quote:Ra has become light/love and love/light. They are becoming more and more that which they seek, which is the Creator. Aren't light/love, love/light, and the Creator if not good, then ... what? Full of joy, glory, power, and peace? Doesn't becoming light/love and love/light represent progress on the positive path rather than abandonment of it?
no it doesnt.
because, before this, there was the mover and moved polarities. with your logic here, someone would be able to say that 'isnt being the mover (or the moved) is progress on the x path' etc etc.
and we would have only one polarity today. the mover, or the moved. yet, see, that polarity isnt here.
but, instead, both the mover and the moved principles, are distributed to all existing entities. all entities both move, and they can be moved too. actually everything moves others, and becomes moved, at the same time.
positive/negative polarity separation is just some concept that is particular to this octave. once this octave ends, there will be no such separated polarity.
what im guessing is, ra is both positive and negative, or, however the merging of both two can happen.
or actually, since it is illogical to be both positive and negative, separately, we can just say that they are balanced in that regard, just like how the entities in next octave will be regarding those. and just like how the entities in this octave are balanced in regard to mover/moved.
the polarity concept was invented as a means to 'encourage' progress. there were infinite numbers of entities manifesting, and creating realities, before the concept of polarity. before this octave. and there are infinite numbers of entities manifesting, and infinite realities existing, after this octave.
each entity is the replica of any other entity, and ultimately, the first manifested entity. (if there was any such 'first' at all, as opposed to infinite number of firsts). each should take when they are given and in need, and each should give when it is needed and they can give. transforming, changing, flowing like water, harmoniously.