12-08-2017, 10:05 PM
I never said there wasn't an agenda to infantalize men, I agreed with you. In fact, I didn't say a lot of what you are accusing me of saying at all. I just wanted to address that it was really a sour note, when, after reading your very serious issues, you went and reinforced them with a joke that showed that you were complicit in perpetuating the stereotypes you hate. I was sad that you felt the need to invalidate yourself that way.
And I completely stand by the idea that men are not animals who are beholden to their reproductive organs and able to be bent to the will of an exposed breast. If that offends you, I'm sorry. It doesn't mean that I don't believe that you have been victimized by being overstimulated by the naked female body, but I believe that you are able to overcome this vulnerability. I believe to continue to fall into this vulnerability is to continue to play into the story of the infantalization of men.
I have never, once ever, disagreed with this. Can you find somewhere in something that I have said where I claimed that men are not victimized and oppressed systemically? Because I believe they are. I just don't want to see you to continue to unconsciously play into roles that you hate, and continue to be victimized and oppressed. I realize this help is unwanted, and I'm sincerely sorry to have made you feel like I was manipulating and condemning you.
And I completely stand by the idea that men are not animals who are beholden to their reproductive organs and able to be bent to the will of an exposed breast. If that offends you, I'm sorry. It doesn't mean that I don't believe that you have been victimized by being overstimulated by the naked female body, but I believe that you are able to overcome this vulnerability. I believe to continue to fall into this vulnerability is to continue to play into the story of the infantalization of men.
Quote:Men are victimized and oppressed just like women in differing ways.
I have never, once ever, disagreed with this. Can you find somewhere in something that I have said where I claimed that men are not victimized and oppressed systemically? Because I believe they are. I just don't want to see you to continue to unconsciously play into roles that you hate, and continue to be victimized and oppressed. I realize this help is unwanted, and I'm sincerely sorry to have made you feel like I was manipulating and condemning you.