Progression of the Soul

[JJCarsonian]

Hello guys

I am trying to wrap my head around some concepts regarding the evolution of the soul.

Ra states that we exist in all densities simultaneously. In the book Seth Speaks, Seth states that the soul is not progression in stair-step / linear fashion. He states that the soul is branching out in all directions attempting to know itself.

The impression in my mind, is that the soul is constantly breaking off, with portions of itself starting at the bottom density and allows it to traverse upwards. This is a continuous cycle until all portions of the soul traverses up the densities.

So here is my question:

Q1) When Ra and Seth talks about the "Self" are they talking about the "Logos".. Is the Logos considered our soul in totality? Or is the "Self" considered the Creator?

[AnthroHeart]

I don't think the self is the Logos. Ra said the sun is not on the path of evolution that we are and it is of the entire Octave. The same is probably for the galactic Logos.


41.7 Questioner: Thank you. What I want to do now is investigate, as the first density is formed, what happens and how energy centers are first formed in beings. Let me first ask you, does it make any sense to ask you if the sun itself has a density, or is it all densities?

Ra: I am Ra. The sub-Logos is of the entire octave and is not that entity which experiences the learning/teachings of entities such as yourselves.

[JJCarsonian]

I don't think the self is the Logos. Ra said the sun is not on the path of evolution that we are and it is of the entire Octave. The same is probably for the galactic Logos.


41.7 Questioner: Thank you. What I want to do now is investigate, as the first density is formed, what happens and how energy centers are first formed in beings. Let me first ask you, does it make any sense to ask you if the sun itself has a density, or is it all densities?

Ra: I am Ra. The sub-Logos is of the entire octave and is not that entity which experiences the learning/teachings of entities such as yourselves.

Thanks Thomas!! Ra did mention, though, that we are sub-sub-logos, right?

[AnthroHeart]

Yes, we are sub-sub-Logos. As is the Earth I believe. I think the Earth is going through the evolution we are but from a different perspective.

[Agua]

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[JJCarsonian]

Q1) When Ra and Seth talks about the "Self" are they talking about the "Logos".. Is the Logos considered our soul in totality?  Or is the "Self" considered the Creator?

Ra and Seth, as well as most spiritual literature, refer to the "real Self" as opposed to the illusory self.
It is often indicated through the use of a capital "S".

It refers to your "individuality core", that which you are at your deepest core, beyond all illusion.

In hinduism and yogic scriptures it is called "atman" which is the individualized divine Self as opposed to "brahman" which is the divine itself or oneness, just in case you are familiar with that.


What might me confusing for you is that your line of investigation is based on a "wrong" assumption:

You base it all on the idea of time.
Time does not exist outside the illusion, it is being developed (and then stuck to) INSIDE the illusion.
Existence is timeless, absolutely timeless. It's true simultaneity.
It is our "way" of perceiving things in a "sequential order" which makes things appear happening one aft the other.

You could compare to a book. You hold the book in your hands, all pages and words are there simultaneously, but you read it piece by piece.

Hi Agua

Thank you for your response.

I do understand that all time exists simultaneously. I also understand that the Self exists in past, present, and future lives up and down the densities. I get the sense, though, that there is a continuous creation of timelines, a continuous creation of experiences. In short, all time is simultaneous, but not all experiences are simultaneous, and i think creation in this octave is continuously expanding and changing. There is a constant branching out of the soul to continue evolving.

So i think my main question, is what do Ra and Seth consider the "Self"? Its not the Logos (although we are sub sub logos)? Is there only 1 "Self", or are there many selves? I guess at the highest level, there really is only 1 self, but im trying to get an understand what Ra and Seth are referring to as the Self.

[Agua]

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[JJCarsonian]

thanks for taking the time Agua ... Our tiny brains will never fathom this concept.. Funny thing is, we already know the truth but have to re-learn in 3D

[Agua]

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[AnthroHeart]

I think 7D will be the real reality. When we get there we will realize that everything else, if there is anything else, was a true illusion.

We truly are All That Is. Not just this Universe. Reality is absolutely infinite.

If we experience reality as it is, it would be an existential terror. The infinite love among other things.

[Infinite Unity]

Hello guys

I am trying to wrap my head around some concepts regarding the evolution of the soul.

Ra states that we exist in all densities simultaneously.  In the book Seth Speaks, Seth states that the soul is not progression in stair-step / linear fashion.    He states that the soul is branching out in all directions attempting to know itself.

The impression in my mind, is that the soul is constantly breaking off, with portions of itself starting at the bottom density and allows it to traverse upwards.  This is a continuous cycle until all portions of the soul traverses up the densities.

So here is my question:

Q1) When Ra and Seth talks about the "Self" are they talking about the "Logos".. Is the Logos considered our soul in totality?  Or is the "Self" considered the Creator?

All is a representation or Logos. The Creators potential is Infinite. There exists one logos, which contain or are many logos. There are logos at the planetary level, the sun level, and many in between. These are all apart of a single logos. As your cells are apart of your body. As we experience, learn, and grow. So does the logos. Which then delves ever deeper into the potential of The Infinite One. You are the only one. You are at every point. There is no other. The Law is One.