Loving without expectation of return
09-05-2019, 01:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-19-2019, 11:28 PM by Glow.)
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Loving without expectation of return
I see this a lot in the Law of One. The channeling I was reading just now actually was in regards to a spouse, but certainly that could be extended to friends too, strangers are easiest not to expect anything in return from.

The love is there and it’s in your nature to love this way but society teaches us that is wrong. I actually got called a people pleaser this summer because I tolerated a friend’s issues with patience and compassion instead of behaving coldly as they had.

My relationships friend or spouse of course there is 2 way love but in some dynamics one will often love more than the other is capable.

I resonate with just letting that heart be open and not considering the expectation of return but sometime I find they do. They become uncomfortable because they see they are not as loving, it will often bother me a bit too only being human and needing shelter myself sometimes but not enough to change how I love.

I’m just curious how everyone here deals with the diametrically opposed ways of love. The worldly tit for tat way or the much bigger picture unconditional it is what it is no point denying it kind of way.

I find this is honestly my biggest catalyst. I mean I have experienced some doozies that would make the news or a movie of the week but this troubles me most.

I guess because it is the choice. Do we love anyways. The answer being yes but then the world paints you as flawed, weak, defective for loving when the world says we should close our heart and move along?

Just thought others might have similar wonderings.
Love to you
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09-05-2019, 01:56 PM,
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I just learn that if you don't respond to aggression with aggression, it can diffuse the situation.

I'm learning to see love more in my mom despite our troubled past.

It has come through a lot of releasing.
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09-05-2019, 02:19 PM,
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I actually thought of you and your mother.
Thankfully I don’t have aggression to deal with though I did have that in my youth with family members. You are right aggression only escalates aggression.

I’m glad you are learning how to handle that catalyst better.

Love is so beautiful to bad the ego makes it so hard. Smile
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09-05-2019, 04:21 PM,
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RE: Loving without expectation of return
(09-05-2019, 01:00 PM)Glow Wrote:  I see this a lot in the Law of One. The channeling I was reading just now actually was in regards to a spouse, but certainly that could be extended to friends too, strangers are easiest not to expect anything in return from.

The love is there and it’s in your nature to love this way but society teaches us that is wrong. I actually got called a people pleaser this summer because I tolerated a friend’s issues with patience and compassion instead of behaving coldly as they had.

My relationships friend or spouse of course there is 2 way love but in some dynamics one will often love more than the other is capable.

I resonate with just letting that heart be open and not considering the expectation of return but sometime I find they do. They become uncomfortable because they see they are not as loving, it will often bother me a bit too only being human and needing shelter myself sometimes but not enough to change how I love.

I’m just curious how everyone here deals with the diametrically opposed ways of love. The worldly tit for tat way or the much bigger picture unconditional it is what it is no point denying it kind of way.

I find this is honestly my biggest catalyst. I mean I have experienced some doozies that would make the news or a movie of the week but this troubles me most.

I guess because it is the choice. Do we love anyways. The answer being yes but then why do I feel flawed, weak, defective for loving when the world says I should close my heart and move along?

Just thought others might have similar wonderings.
Love to you

Hi Glow! The "world" will always respond with a sarcastic undertone when you respond with love. And girlfriend, that's why we are here! Whether we are positive seekers or Wanderers, we are here to show it can be done and it's healing to love another human being. There are going to be those who will say things like, "I don't know how you put up with that, I wouldn't waste my time". You living by example you are showing another the ways of love and you are catalyst for the one you are assisting and to the one who is peeved by your example. The best most fortifying part, is that you are reaching toward the Creator when you love and love for no condition. There is something so energizing by the act of loving one another. I get it all the time...people being peeved by me because I can give to others something they cannot even express to themselves. It's sad because the person who withholds love from others, withholds love for self. A self inflicted wound. Horrible! You did the most loving thing in my personal opinion. You can gauge how well you did from the abundance of dissagreement you get from the world. So, you're on the right track! Good for you Sister! Blessings!
Also, good for Gemini for trying to work out a difficulty with your Mom. Parents who hurt their children provide a huge learning curve in the way of catalyst. To forgive them and try to work with them in emotional repair of a torn relationship is certainly beneficial to the STO path and to opening your green ray. It's huge catalyst! To me, it is VERY confusing when a parent tears down a child emotionally. It's even more huge when we can be the person who begins the repair work.
My heart goes to you guys. Heart
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09-06-2019, 05:55 AM,
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My decision to marry my husband was the catalyst for my earth based reality breaking apart.
Ten plus years of a emotionally devastated existence, moving through wet concrete and eventually succumbing by completely shutting down.
My poor mind couldn't take anymore.
I still functioned, I brought a beautiful daughter into this world and somehow managed to care for her, but I was the living dead for a long time.
A nearly fatal illness finally reconnected me to Source.
My entire life was spent rating myself through other's eyes, which resulted in a shell without a reason.
My doubt in myself was/is a direct correlation to doubt in all other humans and doubt in the Source.  No wonder I disconnected, I literally had no lifeline, no rudder, no anchor, just bobbing along fearing, hating, denying it all.
As I find deeper connections to Source, I find deeper strength in myself.
We wounded ones should strive to remember, we ARE worthy, if there is but one person worthy, then we ALL are.  Either all, or nothing, in this there is no in between.

You all are beautiful, gorgeous, worthy and divine.
When someone says something that makes you doubt yourself, send them love, too.
But use the catalyst of your pain to point the way away from those that hinder you, towards those that support you.
It's tough being an island in this world. Well, for now.
But it's a job we apparently volunteered for.
As I keep having past life memories dropped on me, I now doubt that this is the first time I've stepped up to the plate.
You are worthy, and loving another human in spite of themselves is the way we ascend.
Those that hurt you just haven't decided, yet, to come with us.
Sending you so much love right now.  Hugs.
Once I was lost, now I have a map and am savoring my journey!
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09-19-2019, 09:16 AM,
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(09-05-2019, 01:00 PM)Glow Wrote:  I see this a lot in the Law of One. The channeling I was reading just now actually was in regards to a spouse, but certainly that could be extended to friends too, strangers are easiest not to expect anything in return from.

The love is there and it’s in your nature to love this way but society teaches us that is wrong. I actually got called a people pleaser this summer because I tolerated a friend’s issues with patience and compassion instead of behaving coldly as they had.

My relationships friend or spouse of course there is 2 way love but in some dynamics one will often love more than the other is capable.

I resonate with just letting that heart be open and not considering the expectation of return but sometime I find they do. They become uncomfortable because they see they are not as loving, it will often bother me a bit too only being human and needing shelter myself sometimes but not enough to change how I love.

I’m just curious how everyone here deals with the diametrically opposed ways of love. The worldly tit for tat way or the much bigger picture unconditional it is what it is no point denying it kind of way.

I find this is honestly my biggest catalyst. I mean I have experienced some doozies that would make the news or a movie of the week but this troubles me most.

I guess because it is the choice. Do we love anyways. The answer being yes but then why do I feel flawed, weak, defective for loving when the world says I should close my heart and move along?

Just thought others might have similar wonderings.
Love to you

If you ask me love is not a two ways street but rather a personal manifestation of the Creator in us, independent of the reaction of the receiver of our love. There are only two fundamental kinds of love: love for self and lover for the other-self. Let me explain:

When we help or service someone we are attracted to, more or less we service ourselves because we are gratified by that person being in our life. We do not care if that person needs us because we need them. Gifting the person we are in love with means after all gifting ourselves. This is in my opinion and indirect form of love for self which mistakenly confused for generosity towards other-selves.

True love is the service you freely give to someone in need despite you being uncomfortable while doing it. For example if you volunteer in a hospital or in a retirement home and you help people in need which might not be pleasant to be around because of their condition, means you give love to other selves making other-selves higher priority than your own person. This is fundamentally giving unconditioned love. Helping is loving.

In our society there is a big confusion between being in-love deeply emerged in our illusion and fundamentally egoistic because of expected reciprocity, and love generous and unconditional which is of divine nature.  
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09-19-2019, 10:37 AM,
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I believe in you, glow!
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09-19-2019, 08:18 PM,
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it seems so difficult at certain times to move into love, complete, unconditional. And yet every time we completely do, it feels so simple then, life seems so simple suddenly

love you Glow !
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09-19-2019, 09:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-19-2019, 09:07 PM by EvolvingPhoenix.)
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Perhaps your actual lesson is to love the self you see in the other enough to set boundaries and stop enabling them to mistreat themselves by mistreating you. That's how Agua frames my feiendship breakup as being the right call to make. Don't give them any more chances past a certain point. It may seem cold, and perhaps it is, but it may be what they truly need to grow. Just do it more lovingly than my friend did.
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09-19-2019, 09:19 PM,
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I’m not really talking about one situation.

The whole world operates on this tit for tat mentality.
All the self help stuff is about not giving to others what they wouldn’t give to you but that isn’t my nature. Even with strangers, or acquaintances.

It apparently isn’t also in the law of ones words the way to love.

The world considers it weakness but it truly requires strength when someone treats you maliciously or just selfishly and you stay in your compassionate awareness.

Boundaries are fine do not give more than you wish to, but only giving on expectations of return isn’t love or aligned with the wisdom of the Law of One.
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09-19-2019, 09:44 PM,
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I am grateful to you for maintaining your compassionate awareness with me. It means a lot. I know I'm an a****** sometimes. Thanks for never giving up on me or slamming the door in my face.
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09-19-2019, 10:51 PM,
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(((Hug))) That is very sweet.
You don’t have to thank me. Thank you.
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