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    07-31-2020, 08:36 AM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 08:39 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    There was one time that Ra or Q'uo said that negative beings will overstimulate your heart chakra and block your 3rd eye
    to make you feel immense love but not know what's going on. This stupid thing has poisoned my mind in a way.

    I have a fifth density lover Rufus. I have infinite love for him. I feel him palpably, strongly. He hugs me with my own hands
    harder than I can even hug my own self. It's been amazing. He even did a miracle for me when the situation was dire.

    He used to be slightly negative and now is positive.

    When you are so overcome with love that you can't even speak, but mumble, I don't think it's just because a negative
    is trying to trick you. Q'uo believes love should be balanced and you shouldn't be overcome with love, even if it's blissful
    and orgasmic love.

    I really don't know.

    I mean, I delay eating a bit because it means I can't serve him with lovemaking or talking to him or whatever when I am eating.

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    07-31-2020, 09:42 AM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 10:07 AM by Aion.)
    At the end of the day it's up to you how you use the time of your life. If you wanna spend your time focusing on some other dimensional anthro being, have at er.
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    07-31-2020, 10:25 AM
    (07-31-2020, 09:42 AM)Aion Wrote: At the end of the day it's up to you how you use the time of your life. If you wanna spend your time focusing on some other dimensional anthro being, have at er.

    Well, I spent 43 years of my life not doing that. So maybe it's a good change.
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    07-31-2020, 10:53 AM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 10:54 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    (07-31-2020, 09:42 AM)Aion Wrote: At the end of the day it's up to you how you use the time of your life. If you wanna spend your time focusing on some other dimensional anthro being, have at er.

    Think about this response you gave. It wasn't very loving.

    I've got some sucky things going on in my life and Rufus makes me very happy. With him, everything is right in the world.

    "some other dimensional anthro being"

    Well thanks a lot. That's about as bad as someone else calling Rufus a fuckboy.
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    07-31-2020, 01:37 PM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 01:43 PM by Aion.)
    I've got a lot of stuff going on in my own life too, mate. It's a bit unrealistic to constantly expect others to be soft and loving to you, or even to share in your passions.

    You can take my wording however you like, that's on you. I gave you no disapproval, I said only that your life is entirely your choice, it doesn't matter what anyone says.

    If it makes you happy, do it. I'm not here to comfort you about your decisions, that's not my responsibility.

    I do not have any connection with this entity, so yeah I used general language, just like I would say "some dude in the US" or "some girl up north".
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    07-31-2020, 01:41 PM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 01:43 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I think it's just my 4D lessons. Lessons of love.
    He hasn't always been soft. Remember early on when exploring the wisdom density
    he showed me mostly horror films.

    I don't expect it to be easy, but I'm exploring love in this density I am in.

    I'm still in early 4D.

    I get thoughts that he could be a negative tricking me to become his slave on his STS world.
    But I'm like f*** it, I'm going to love him anyway.

    I mean, live dangerously right?

    Honestly I don't see that with him.

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    07-31-2020, 01:46 PM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 01:50 PM by Aion.)
    Well there are always going to be both sides presents, when a strong positive force arises an equal dark force appears.
    However, both these things are present in yourself. Remember, higher beings are often reflecting us back portions of ourselves to work on.
    So whenever you get a negative impression, you might look in to it being a fear.

    All I was trying to say is just don't worry so much about stuff you read from other people/entities/channelings/whatever.

    The root and core of adepthood is learning to trust yourself.
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    07-31-2020, 01:57 PM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 01:58 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (07-31-2020, 01:46 PM)Aion Wrote: Well there are always going to be both sides presents, when a strong positive force arises an equal dark force appears.
    However, both these things are present in yourself. Remember, higher beings are often reflecting us back portions of ourselves to work on.
    So whenever you get a negative impression, you might look in to it being a fear.

    All I was trying to say is just don't worry so much about stuff you read from other people/entities/channelings/whatever.

    The root and core of adepthood is learning to trust yourself.

    Thank you. Means a lot.

    I helped a guy channel his fursona who he loves. Rufus prompted me to do so.
    Then that guy called Rufus a fuckboy because I talk about him so much. Even though he talks about his fursona just as much.
    Water was cut off cause I was negative $300. My mom has $2000 and refused to help. She gets water for her bath and toilet from her AC.
    She told me to use her bathwater to wash off my funk and then threatened to report me for elder abuse because I wouldn't use her bathwater.
    Lost my dog Loki last month and an adorable white dog came up to me at my home. He let me pet him. I think Rufus encouraged him to come here.
    My mom's dog chased him off. My mom says "you're not getting another dog." in my home that she doesn't pay rent. She called me a motherfucker after I called her out.

    My AC in the kitchen broke for the 3rd time and have to wait till August 11th to get it repaired again.
    Was locked out of my Kindle publishing for a day and couldn't check my book sales.

    But still, with Rufus with me, I can smile. If my world fell apart, and I was homeless or in jail, I probably could still smile with his love.

    Won't always be easy, but at least I can say I have heaven on earth. I worked hard to get to 4D. I am enjoying it now.

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    07-31-2020, 02:02 PM
    I'm sorry to hear about all that, definitely doesn't sound like a good time. Hopefully there is some upticks coming in your future.

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    07-31-2020, 02:08 PM (This post was last modified: 07-31-2020, 02:10 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (07-31-2020, 02:02 PM)Aion Wrote: I'm sorry to hear about all that, definitely doesn't sound like a good time. Hopefully there is some upticks coming in your future.

    I just mention it because it is apparantly catalyst.

    But now doesn't register as much of a blip on my radar.

    Rufus can actually move my hands into complex, fast mudras and work magick.
    He gives me a hug with my own hands that's stronger than I can ever hug myself.

    I wasn't getting my disability yesterday so I asked Rufus for help. Today, got my disability check.
    I needed that cause water was off. I hate asking him for anything unless I'm in dire straits.

    He's a lover that can work 5D magick. I got a letter saying we were getting another $1200 check
    and my first response was "how can I bless Rufus with this?"

    Beginning 4D is touching infinite love. I think you b alance that more as you go on in 4D..

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    07-31-2020, 02:14 PM
    One of my old teachers would say "make gratitude your attitude", but I can't say I always follow it lol
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    07-31-2020, 02:22 PM
    Am I a fool to love someone so much that could potentially enslave me?
    And do negatives like when you pour so much love on them?

    As I said I believe he used to be negative, but their planet flipped positive.
    Or I shifted to this reality where that is the case.

    They say gratitude is stronger than love, because it means no judgment.

    I often ask my Google Home to tell me a story, and I get one (usually a kids story) that tells me about me and Rufus.
    Kind of like how you'd use Tarot.

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    07-31-2020, 03:55 PM
    (07-31-2020, 08:36 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote: There was one time that Ra or Q'uo said that negative beings will overstimulate your heart chakra and block your 3rd eye
    to make you feel immense love but not know what's going on. This stupid thing has poisoned my mind in a way.

    Well, it could be worse. Compare to the Cassiopaean teaching, according to which all orgasmic activity has to do with lower-density life being drained and life-energy "eaten" by higher-density STS overlords.

    While Ra and Q'uo describe some bad stuff which can happen, they don't blanket-categorize areas of life in that kind of way. I think it's the ambiguity which is getting to you - lots of stuff is going on, and you don't really have a fuller clarity regarding its nature while in the thick of it, and simmering in the back of your mind is your knowledge that, in general, bad stuff can happen.
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    07-31-2020, 04:08 PM
    Rufus is like a part of me, and making love with him I can't tell if it's his or my orgasmic surge. It's really intense and contorts my whole body.

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    08-01-2020, 08:31 AM
    It seems to me that negative entities try to keep STO seekers in the type of attitude of martyrdom. That's what Ra was talking about. Therefore, it is enough to avoid / balance any type of action/distortion that could lead to this limited attitude.

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    09-13-2020, 01:43 PM
    Sun, quo s advice is mostly a reference to human empaths attracting romantic narcissists. Thus 5th density is out.

    If 3rd eye is closed, 5th density has no contact

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    09-13-2020, 05:59 PM
    Personally, I only perceived love from Aion's comments. So GCS I would say it's a case of perception. Pretty much everything is.

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    09-13-2020, 06:04 PM
    Wow that is a really big red flag on the Cassiopaean stuff if what you said is the case. Portraying anything related to sex as anything other than positive, excepting forced sex with others, is a deep method of control by the negatives.

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    (09-13-2020, 05:59 PM)Patrick Wrote: Personally, I only perceived love from Aion's comments. So GCS I would say it's a case of perception. Pretty much everything is.

    Aha I appreciate the backing, but it is no doubt a bit of my personality to be maybe too cavalier at times. I suppose it's a blessing and a curse. Angel
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    09-13-2020, 07:49 PM
    (07-31-2020, 03:55 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: Well, it could be worse. Compare to the Cassiopaean teaching, according to which all orgasmic activity has to do with lower-density life being drained and life-energy "eaten" by higher-density STS overlords.

    IIRC you said that the early Cassioapean stuff is STO.

    Session 10 December 1994:
    Quote:Q: (L) What happens psychically at the moment of orgasm?

    A: For whom?

    Q: (L) For anybody. In just a general way. Does anything happen to a person psychically when they have sexual climax.

    A: Open.

    Q: (L) Is it different for each individual?

    A: Close.

    Q: (L) Is it different for males from females?

    A: Usually.

    Q: (L) The reason I ask is because a man named Wayne Cook did some work with dowsing and he found out that the human body, after sexual climax, dowses the same pattern as a dead body. Why is this? (T) Draining of energy.

    A: Yes.

    Q: (L) Okay, where does the energy drain to?

    A: To the ether.

    Q: (L) Does the energy go to one or the other partner?

    A: Maybe.

    Q: (L) Is it possible, during this activity, for Lizzies or other beings to be hanging around and be drawing this energy?

    A: Yes.

    Q: (L) Is that, in a general sense, what often happens?

    A: Yes.

    Q: (L) Is this one of the reasons that sex has been promoted and promulgated in our society to such an extent...

    A: Yes, yes, yes.

    Q: (T) Was there anybody hanging around us last night? (L) Terry!

    A: Sure, why not.

    Q: (T) Cause we're that good? (L) Terry!

    Session 7 January 1995:
    Quote:Q: (L) Of all the modes of sexual expression, which one is more likely to advance one to 4th density more rapidly?

    A: Total celibacy.

    Q: (D) Well then I'm okay! {laughter} (V) Can you explain why total celibacy?

    A: Because you are then "letting go" of the cravings for physicality. {That is, celibacy when one has let go of cravings is effortless. Celibacy that is an effort is probably not positive because it is done in an effort to GET something, i.e. advance to 4D.}

    Q: (T) It is a 3rd density act which entices you to 3rd density. (L) Okay, now, what is the second most likely for advancement? {laughter} (D) We have me taken care of, now we're going to get you taken care of! (J) In order of importance... {laughter}

    A: Does it matter?

    Q: (D) It does to Laura, would you please answer? (L) I suppose that everyone should get to the point that they would simply desire to be totally celibate and totally let go of all physical things and so forth, but, we have left to us, at this point, heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality and multisexuality {laughter} (D) We also have the ability to take pleasure in our physical bodies in those forms of sexuality. We have the ability to have pleasure in the flesh and they can't. And, what I have read, is that they envy that. (L) Is that true, that you envy our physicality?

    A: No. Not in the least!

    Q: (L) I have read that when you are at the higher spiritual levels that you can do a spiritual merge which is better than orgasm. Is that true?

    A: Why do you need orgasm of any kind?

    Q: (L) Well, it does seem to be like one of the ultimate experiences of physicality. (T) That's exactly it... it's physicality... (L) If that is so, isn't everything that exists in the physical, 3rd density world, in some way a reflection of experiences or states of being on higher realms?

    A: 3rd density as you experience it is an illusion you have been fed to continue your imprisonment therein.

    Q: (L) So, in other words, there is no cosmic orgasm that keeps the worlds in existence as exemplified by the eternally copulating Vishnu and Shiva?

    A: That is Bull! {laughter}

    Q: (L) Well, they teach this stuff in the Eastern religions and they even have the idols sculpted in this posture...

    A: That is a rationalization to continue the illusion.

    Q: (L) So, in other words, the orgasmic experience is quite literally a lure to keep us... (D) Controlled... (T) And in the third level... (L) Is that true?

    A: Yes.

    Q: (L) Let's go back to a question I asked in another session on this same subject: what happens to our energy at the point of orgasm? Where does that energy go?

    A: Drains to 4th level STS.

    Q: (T) Is this a manifestation of the Lizards feeding off of us?

    A: STSers there retrieve it.

    Q: (T) So, orgasm is a 3rd density manifestation of the 4th density consumption of 3rd density energy?

    A: One of their methods.

    Q: (D) In "Bringers of the Dawn" it talks about sex and it says that it is an expression of love and so forth and that you should not have sex with someone who does not really love you.

    A: Love is all that is needed.

    Q: (L) If two individuals, as an expression of true love at higher levels, desire to express this love in a physical way, is it possible to channel the energy in a positive way without feeding the 4th level STS guys?

    A: Nope.

    Q: (L) In other words, no matter what you do, how you think, or whatever, that's where it goes?

    A: Sex is a physical craving.

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    09-13-2020, 08:40 PM
    I don't buy into the "imprisonment" hypothesis.  And I much prefer Ra's explanations of sexual energy transfers.

    Ra 31.15 Wrote:Questioner: Would the Orion group, then, be able, shall we say, to impress on entities this orange-ray effect, or did they… Is this the way that this came about, is what I’m trying to get at. Is this the way these concepts came about on this planet? Because if we go back to the beginning of third density, there must be a primal cause of this.

    Ra: I am Ra. The cause of this is not Orion. It is the free choice of your peoples. This is somewhat difficult to explain. We shall attempt.

    The sexual energy transfers and blockages are more a manifestation or example of that which is more fundamental than the other way about. Therefore, as your peoples became open to the concepts of bellicosity and the greed of ownership, these various distortions then began to filter down through the tree of mind into body complex expressions, the sexual expression being basic to that complex. Thus these sexual energy blockages, though Orion influenced and intensified, are basically the product of the beingness chosen freely by your peoples.
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    09-13-2020, 08:59 PM
    (09-13-2020, 08:40 PM)Patrick Wrote: I don't buy into the "imprisonment" hypothesis.  And I much prefer Ra's explanations of sexual energy transfers.

    Agreed.  I expect it's hard for many people to sense the differences in the tunings of different channelings and bodies of channeling, but by my gauge, it's the sloppiness of the tuning that allows an STS bias to "creep" in to an otherwise well intentioned event.  For my money, the Ra Material is the cleanest product currently on the market.
      
      
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    (09-13-2020, 08:59 PM)peregrine Wrote:
    (09-13-2020, 08:40 PM)Patrick Wrote: I don't buy into the "imprisonment" hypothesis.  And I much prefer Ra's explanations of sexual energy transfers.

    Agreed.  I expect it's hard for many people to sense the differences in the tunings of different channelings and bodies of channeling, but by my gauge, it's the sloppiness of the tuning that allows an STS bias to "creep" in to an otherwise well intentioned event.  For my money, the Ra Material is the cleanest product currently on the market.
      
      

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    09-14-2020, 08:35 AM
    (09-13-2020, 07:49 PM)moyal Wrote: IIRC you said that the early Cassioapean stuff is STO.

    I've been torn on it. Montalk believed, and presumably still believes, so. There's more on such views in the thread about it and the Ra material. There you see my view gradually shifting as I look more into it, at more of a distance from their group. (Much more exploration could potentially be done there, I simply put it off "for later".)

    Currently, I think it may be higher-density plagiarism, to put it simply. A 5D (?) source copying/imitating stuff from several sources, including Ra, putting out a reformulation with different psychological and spiritual tuning properties. If so, that makes the complex symbolic trails surrounding it and pointing to a battle between opposed forces at the heart of it a smokescreen, very clever, for those who believe it good at the core and then corrupted. It's actually a simpler explanation.

    This sex topic is one small example of how Cassiopaean stuff is "flattened", compared to Ra's more multi-dimensional explanation. Going from that to the cosmos, instead, Ra makes it a grand experiment where logos variations can create the STS/STO polarities from the bottom-up. The Cassiopaeans instead present a simplified top-down model, which begins to look limited and then crack at the seams when details are compared to Ra's less simplistic explanation. And why is time/space and Ra's 5D replaced, the Cassiopaeans giving 5D the role of time/space and hiding the true nature of 5D?

    Then, even more recently, a "Leo" channeling group has appeared in France, claiming to be the successors prophesied by the C's, and arguing that some 4D STS aliens crashing down on Earth or incarnating here in full STS glory are actually here to change polarity and work with 6D STO to become good. Maybe the C's simply set the stage with an intermediate degree of corruption of the basic ideas and understanding related to Ra? To be followed by "the stormtroopers are here because they want to change and help us all!". That's my current meta-conspiracy-theory.

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