12-16-2010, 04:09 PM
(12-16-2010, 01:27 PM)Eric Wrote: I sincerely hope you don't often become bored when we converse because I agree with you so often I rarely have anything to offer in the way of differing viewpoints! Haha.Yawn, lol
Quote:About the gays in the military issue... tell me about it. For some reason it seems America is behind on a lot of issues that feel like no brainers to me... and I'd venture most of us here on the forum. Fortunately I think there are also a large number of people in the U.S. who are equally fed up and are instigating changes now. Same sex marriage is another one that I'm sure will be looked back on in the context of "What on Earth were they thinking, not allowing same sex people to marry??" In the same way we look at how interracial marriages were also illegal once.Precisely. When I started to go out, the first place that ended up being my semi homebase downtown was the local gay bar. We happened to know a few people there. And it was always fun, no ego's no nonsense. I had to learn that people don't all see it like that. But to me this is the truth. If we went elsewhere it was always a circus of egos and peacocks.
If a guy in a dress is more relaxed less self important and just fun to be around, I'll be around the guy in the dress! Thank you!
The only thing real and valuable in this world is quality contact with other people. Everything else is valuable only because it creates the possibility of this contact. In my humble opinion that makes putting demands on others to not be themselves in any way a costly choice. Why on earth would we want to spend time with make belief copies of ourselves?
Quote:Also things like marijuana legalization, universal health care... I also suspect things like immigration shouldn't be such a huge issue as it is.. the list goes on and on. If I had it my way I'd burn down all the border guard stations and dissolve all nations borders, opting instead for a collective tribe of humans on a physically limited geographic area... the circumference of the Earth.I would recommend changing the flow of wealth first. That's the real reason people move from warm climates to cold rainy places. Bottom line is if everyone moves to a few specific places on earth and bring their issues with them it's not going to work either. So we need a more thorough solution but the end result I would aim for is the same
Besides, I love foreign food.
As for universal healthcare, it's right isn't it? Health is a problem we should fix, like education, infrastructure both physical and digital. It's just common sense. People are the engine to a society. All of them. If you don't keep them happy and humming you're going to lose productivity and growth.
Quote:I've been thinking more and more about something you wrote in your wanderer's story. About how at a certain point you just stopped questioning your metaphysical backstory and just went with it.Yes, that's how it went. It no longer mattered if it was real or not, it was right, and what I learned there worked. It's kinda taking things to the next level. Don't worry about the basics assume your direction is right, and take the stand. We do what the basics enable us to do if we put our confidence there.
Quote: I think I'm prepared to do the same thing now. I feel that I'm a wanderer also- from fourth density. I've often felt compelled towards love and compassion over reason. Wisdom is not something I'm here to express- I don't know much about it. So if you put me in charge I'll dissolve the world's governments.... who knows if that's a wise thing to do? Maybe not- but that's honestly how I feel inside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mVvMopn2os
In a world which we created where our future is the result of our choices. What excuse do we have to speak about real? We define real. We do not define right. We know right! If we choose right massively, globally, individually then real will be right.
All I can say really is welcome brother Trust your core. No matter what we are, our guidance lies within.
Quote:On Dawkins, yes. It's pretty clear to me that his chosen mission in this day and age is to enlighten humans to the fact that what we've made of religion makes little sense when you get down to logic and rationality. And that it can actually be detrimental sometimes. Unfortunately he was so determined to fulfill this mission that he's taken it to 200% and debunks everything in sight, and this almost certain includes his own experience. Thus there are many things that he supports that I can't get behind either... But I think the ends justify the means in this case. If a handful of people can become liberated of dogma and experience greater joys in life, it's well worth having a crotchety angry man swirling around Youtube. Haha!Heh, did you see Network? a 1976 movie, it's wel worth it if you can find it. It's about a news anchor man going through a personal crisis, he is going to get sacked. His outrage on air about how things are, that we are scared. Frightened by the television we sit in our homes. Even afraid of the neighbors. He get's the people to the point where they open their windows shouting that they're mad as hell and they just won't take it anymore.
Dawkins is like that. And he's right, his debunking if you look at it carefully isn't really saying much "There probably is no god"... To me I think he would be more successful if he just said I don't care about your God believe in him or not, but here's what's pragmatically wrong about religion. We can argue metaphysics forever. No one can argue facts.
That anger is justified, and when properly channeled it can change the world. Bottom line as religious as I am I realize we need Dawkins. We need people who are angry to point out what's wrong with the world today. I would sacrifice religion in a heartbeat for world peace. But spirit and love go hand in hand. I don't believe religion is the problem, and I don't care about the political structures around it myself.