10-29-2021, 11:08 AM
(10-28-2021, 01:59 PM)zedro Wrote: Just like with people, there are some environments that are more negative and hostile to their existence, and results in suffering. And that vibrational suffering spreads directly and indirectly to others around them in circumstance. We can try and moralize a difference between 2d and 3d creatures, but I don't think this is a healthy spiritual outlook in general, just as it isn't between humans alone. Everything has a purpose, and to make one thing more 'sacred' or 'innocent' than other to me is the same morality trap that cause undo distortions of self. Awareness is always the main key, and to do you what you can do.
I, personally, am not trying to moralize anything. I leave that to religions.
What you say above does not scan for me. There is a difference between 2D and 3D creatures. If we proceed from the LOO and what Ra says about densities, 2D beings are not here to make a polarity choice which would include service to others; they are here to individuate in order to graduate to 3D where then the choice is made from that reality. When humans cause suffering to other humans, they are on a level playing field, where seeking to come to terms with polarity choice is the point. When humans use animals and other life forms to play out their lives here in that seeking, it is not consensual. And even though some people justify this to say that animals are agreeing to be of service to us in this way, it does not line up with Ra's descriptions of densities since animals are not choosing polarity (service to others).
And with no reference to Ra or the LOO, still, humanity is like a bully in this world, because we can be due to our developed brains and neocortex. We endeavor to control and manipulate the environment and the life on it for our own purposes. The other life forms on this planet are literally our victims and have no say in the matter. And just look where that control and manipulation have gotten us to at this point. We have nearly destroyed the very planet we live on in our stupidity.
(10-28-2021, 01:59 PM)zedro Wrote: For me, eating meat is still as necessary as it was for my northern ancestors trying to survive the winters, or the elder cultures surviving the ice age, granted that the stakes are much lower thus the hyperbolic statement, but it is the fuel my body is still attuned to, and the service of these creatures is being made available to me for this purpose.
Just because things were the way they were in the past is not justification for how things might be now, or evolution, mutation, change would never move forward.
Meat may be fuel, but it is your choice to feed your body this type of fuel. There are ramifications to everything we do. I agree that it is really important to honor the body. But that is one aspect of the whole picture of reality.
People are used to eating meat which gives the impression they need it. Habit and addiction might also be considered.