02-15-2011, 02:24 PM
(02-15-2011, 11:46 AM)yossarian Wrote: I don't think we can blame the current social structure in the West.
The current social structure is legitimately thus:
1. People can elect their government.
2. People can choose what to do with their money. Don't like evil corporations? Don't support them.
'people' can elect their government, getting elected takes huge amounts of funds for election. in short, people can elect whichever rich enough guy has the funds, or supported by the rich.
people, on the other hand, have no choice of not supporting corporations. they are living in a corporate structure themselves.
even if you choose not to work for any corporation, or not to employ anyone in your small business, you will still be an underdog, a tribute payer to bigger corporations through all kinds of things - from infrastructure to power bill, to your materials, expenses anything.
you are told you are free. and indeed you are, in appearance, free to do anything.
but, EVERYthing is tied to ownership of money or funds. you can do only as much as you have it. the less you have, the less your options are.
even the possibility of having more of it, requires you to have enough of it to be able to even start. education or a new business, requires money. there are always success stories peddled, from riches to rags, however, you dont see such people anywhere in your own social circle. at most, someone knows someone who has a relative who got to some place from zero in short notice.
Quote:Ownership may be orange ray but that doesn't make it wrong. Ownership ultimately means that people do have a level of control over their lives.
ownership of anything, is an orange ray blockage. you identify an external person, entity, object, place, thought form as 'yours', identifying it as an extension of your self that is commandable by you, as if it was an addition of your bodily orange ray complex. its a demeaning, reduction of whatever you are 'owning'.
Quote:People are busy, yes, but not too busy. They have the opportunity to vote their conscience and to use their wallet for the service of others.
yes. vote for the other corporate supported candidate, or buy from the other corporation. it is a choice. if you forget that all megacorporations are tied to each other through networks of shareholdership, or even proxy corporations and holdings.
Quote:Overt spirituality is just not necessary for harvest. What is necessary is for people to choose to care. I think they do this. Not in a loud way. They aren't making an announcement or putting up a billboard. They're just deciding inside their own head that, you know what, instead of spending all my money on house renovations I'm going to send some to the africans. Or instead of spending all my energy at the office I'm going to sign up to be a Big Brother/Big Sister.
and the money you send to africans wont reach any africans, because it will be swallowed by warlords who are employed by diamond corporations which are using them to ensure that their exclusive status or monopolies do not jeopardized.
one of my acquaintances worked for u.n., trying to distribute food in africa. the food crates would come, and they would just sit on the food crates and wait for the warlords' (or dictators') men to come and collect them, to sell them in black market. they werent able to distribute a single food crate during the time she was volunteering in africa.
Quote:You can't measure these kinds of decisions by watching the news. The corporate drones organize themselves using money, but this doesn't mean they are acting in an STS fashion.
any hierarchical social structure that gives more control to those higher in the ranks, in service of themselves, is a sts structure.
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actually it doesnt even require any kind of rationalization or justification - one just need to imagine the below :
any higher entity from a positive higher dimension, owning a 'corporation', and asking for profit for what service it provides.
jesus of nazareth having people work for him, and amassing the profit.
15 people owning the entire output of a group of 5,000 people.
Quote: I really think the dire predictions of a poor harvest are premature and misguided. There will be time to do a post-mortem, port-mortem.
'premature' ?
there have been only 150 harvests in second cycle.
in this cycle, things got even worse, because according to what Ra says, isolation is no longer possible. the 150 who were harvested in 2nd cycle, had the privilege of being able to live in isolated fashion.
anyway, i will just refer you to a thread in which we already have made these discussions extensively.
http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1662