03-21-2009, 12:02 AM
Hello. I am new here. I have not read much of the Ra material, though I have read some of the Cassiopaean transcripts. What I am interested in is how much this idea of mine goes along with the LOO stuff. I do not aim to misconstrue anything here.
I have come to understand that in the union of All that Is, 3rd density represents a lesson as well as anything else. After reading to the 3rd chapter of the Wanderer's Handbook, I began to construct an idea based on my personal experience. I feel as if many here are caught up in the STS/3rd density vs. STO/higher densities thing and have not yet seen the big picture.
Everything I am about to present on my idea is nearly hypothetical, which is why I am asking for other thoughts on it. I want to know if this is new and if and how it pertains to the LOO.
In page 72 of the Wanderer's Handbook, the Q'uo are quoted:
It seems to me from this that maybe many in the New Age movement are seeking too far into the higher centers and not spending enough time laying a solid but flexible groundwork in our own 3rd density illusion. I have always thought that the lessons of our present reality MUST be learned before trying to master higher ideals, or we have no solid foundation of Love.
The Q'uo might seem to agree (almost, maybe not entirely). I found this quote in another thread, taken out of the transcript of 2007_1124:
The entire quote is in this thread in post 3. http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=71
With this in mind, I will post something I sent to a friend. This explains very well the idea that I have constructed. I have set it as a quote to distinguish it from the rest of the text, but it was written by me.
To add some understanding that may be lacking in the above, In order to operate above 3rd density, one must go through the filter of the 3rd density mind. The 3rd density concept of reality must allow for the possibility of the higher realities or one is contradicting themselves. So our 3rd density minds must not hold any opinions or non-truths that will constrict our channel to the higher realities, if we are to experience those realities completely.
I truly hope that there is understanding to be gained from this and that I have not posted something unmeaningful.
- Memorandem
I have come to understand that in the union of All that Is, 3rd density represents a lesson as well as anything else. After reading to the 3rd chapter of the Wanderer's Handbook, I began to construct an idea based on my personal experience. I feel as if many here are caught up in the STS/3rd density vs. STO/higher densities thing and have not yet seen the big picture.
Everything I am about to present on my idea is nearly hypothetical, which is why I am asking for other thoughts on it. I want to know if this is new and if and how it pertains to the LOO.
In page 72 of the Wanderer's Handbook, the Q'uo are quoted:
Quote:We do not see ourselves as being wiser than those within third density but merely in a somewhat different illusion, and, therefore, in some-
what different circumstances. Yet we, as you, seek to know and yet do
not know. We simply have come to hold fairly settled opinions, and, as
is the way of things spiritual, our truths move constantly into the
unknown, as do your own. Thusly, there is always the contradiction,
the tangle, the knot of attempting to understand that which can only be
embodied.
It seems to me from this that maybe many in the New Age movement are seeking too far into the higher centers and not spending enough time laying a solid but flexible groundwork in our own 3rd density illusion. I have always thought that the lessons of our present reality MUST be learned before trying to master higher ideals, or we have no solid foundation of Love.
The Q'uo might seem to agree (almost, maybe not entirely). I found this quote in another thread, taken out of the transcript of 2007_1124:
Quote:The first requirement for working with the gateway to intelligent infinity is that the heart be open. Consequently, although many seekers do not wish to continue to work intensively with the lower three chakras, it is our opinion that it is essential to continue to work with those three chakras, giving them all of the honor and respect that you give the higher chakras.
The entire quote is in this thread in post 3. http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=71
With this in mind, I will post something I sent to a friend. This explains very well the idea that I have constructed. I have set it as a quote to distinguish it from the rest of the text, but it was written by me.
Quote:I will tell you something that I hope is relatively new to you. I hope that I am not serving as a distraction.
>Inflated self-esteem is most often brought on by a self-willed amnesia of one's all-too-real faults and the consequences of them; low self-esteem is the bottom point of this cyclical mania, and is brought on by an unhealthy preoccupation with those same faults.
I don't believe it is very different than what you are saying but I don't think it is really this simple. I believe there are other factors that open up doors for a spiritual mastery of sorts. What you say is true for the most part but we must also consider the catalyst that moves one to struggle with the Ego. A balance between high and low self-esteem can be made, if one simply wants to live a balanced life. But to live in balance and without struggle is to not grow, as we must struggle with ourselves in order to grow.
I believe that anyone truly trying to move forward in "goodness" will certainly run into the Ego. The point is not to keep from struggling with it, but to test it, learn about it, and learn how to take it apart and put it back together to perform a more productive task. If you seek to not have problems with it, you effectively stop your spiritual growth. Anyone growing will struggle. It can be said that struggle is growth. So while the struggle might cause artefacts that affect the outside world in an "negatively-perceived" way, our struggles tend to count as an investment toward harmony within our environment, where when we can function flawlessly at a material level, we can also do so spiritually.
The ego is the cause of everything that is perceived as pain. We trick ourselves into believing in our own illusion of "pain" because it gives us an excuse to live a relatively painless life. Everyone who is trying to live painlessly in a spiritual way is actually still living within the illusion of their ego. When one loses the Ego, they lose pain. All is put towards a spiritual purpose and pain serves to point out one's weaknesses - a blessing that the Ego disguises.
And now we have the concept of STS vs. STO.
STS=Service to Self
STO=Servivce to Others.
A very easy way to wrap up two concepts. These two acronyms represent a decent body of information relating to the Ego vs. the higher good.
The most recognizable characteristic of an STS orientation is wishful thinking. Wishful thinking is always selfish and represents an unwillingness to "be happy" or work with what one has. STS is dominated by the Ego. Much can be learned by watching one's "wishful thoughts".
STO is a selfless form of serving others, although one cannot be sincerely selfless since all is part of creation and thus we do justly have ourselves to worry about sometimes. When one is of the STO orientation, their actions are controlled by wills rather than desires, and everything is put toward a spiritual purpose.
Anyone can be truly STO if they desire, and this "bumps them up" a level. However, without the 3D and material knowledge, there isn't much you can do. Your actions are limited by your material base because at the higher spiritual levels one is not allowed to contradict Self or act selfishly. Thus, we have two ways we can achieve "spirituality" - we can choose to be that way instantly (which is almost never done), or we can build our material base up with comprehension until it naturally takes us to the higher level. While we are at the higher level, we will always feel as if we are "outside a bubble, looking in", unless we have built our material base up well enough that we can identify with the material reality as a union with the spiritual one. All is truly connected, and in order to break the illusions of separation, we have to learn and act upon the knowledge that all is equal as far as God is concerned. One large difference between the spiritual worlds and the material one is that they are simply different illusions. One can teach the other how to move into a different illusion of reality, but one must come to understand themselves how it is all simply part of creation.
To add some understanding that may be lacking in the above, In order to operate above 3rd density, one must go through the filter of the 3rd density mind. The 3rd density concept of reality must allow for the possibility of the higher realities or one is contradicting themselves. So our 3rd density minds must not hold any opinions or non-truths that will constrict our channel to the higher realities, if we are to experience those realities completely.
I truly hope that there is understanding to be gained from this and that I have not posted something unmeaningful.
- Memorandem