(09-07-2011, 02:04 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Yes, it happens all the time. And this forum is riddled with examples where somebody said one thing, another person took their words to be something different, and then conflict and confusion ensued.
Whew, that's for sure! What a person says isn't always what the other person hears, even in person, much less via typed words without benefit of facial expression, tone of voice, etc.
(09-07-2011, 02:04 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: So what you are saying is that Ra used the word "now" when they actually meant "in the not-so-near future, according to 3D measurements of time"? If so, they should have corrected this statement, or chosen a different word. "Now" means "now". For you to say that "now" means, in this case, something different, invalidates your previous arguments on normal conversations using plain language.
Now denotes the present time. But what is the present time? The present moment? Hour? Day? Second? Decade? I'll go along with seconds, minutes, or hours, but we don't normally refer to something 10, 20 or 30 years in the future as "now". But to be sure, context must be taken into consideration. If a mother tells her child, "turn the tv off now!" she means now, as in, right this second. But when I am talking to a friend on the phone, and we make plans for a visit, and I say, "I'll leave right now and head on over to your house" then now means however long it takes me to put on my shoes, grab my car keys, lock the door, and get in my car. That could be a minute, a couple of minutes, or maybe even 5 or 10 minutes if I need to get the dogs in, or if I need a potty break or a quick snack first. Yet, my friend understands that I will be at her house soon, because I'm leaving as soon as I can, ie. now. Whereas, if that child took 10 minutes to turn off the tv, his mom would surely get angry at him! What does now mean to an astronomer watching a distant star go supernova? What does now mean to an archeologist comparing the lifestyle of prehistoric humans to the lifestyle of modern humans, now?
Furthermore, Ra admittedly has issues communicating demarcations of time.
(09-07-2011, 02:04 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I am referring to the persistent belief that this 3D earth will become 4D earth, through the works of mankind upon the planet. As we have previously touched upon, harvest and the transition of the planet from 3D to full-activation 4D are not the same thing.
Harvest is the process by which 3D entities are transferred to 4D. Whether or not this is "gradual" or "sudden" is a distinct issue from the situation where we have a post-harvest 3D earth, with human beings still incarnating and reproducing upon it.
Exactly! Thank you for this distinction.
(09-07-2011, 02:04 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: we are now positioned exceedingly close to the time window of 28 Oct 11 to 21 Dec 12 for "something" to happen, whatever that "something" may be. If that "something" is harvest, then we should expect a considerable chunk of the population to immanently die or go missing. If no such thing occurs, then either we have utterly failed to understand what "harvest" even is, or Ra utterly failed to understand our inability to perceive it.
What is the significance of the Oct 28 date?