Quote:Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles?
Ra: I am Ra. One major cycle is approximately 25,000 of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested at the end of three major cycles. That is, approximately between 75 and 76,000 of your years. All are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.
6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?
Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.
6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?
Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately 30, thirty, of your years. (circa 1981)
It says ALL are harvested, regardless of progress, signifying in my mind that that all the entities are harvested at once.. It even explains why. The planet ceases being useful for that density.
Quote:14.14 Questioner: Would there be any value to the people of this planet now to complete this machine?
Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions toward longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex.
When Ive seen "the harvest is NOW" quoted on this forums several times, it is not in context. The questioner started asking about extending the physical vehicle's life span with the machine some dude was trying to build. The Ra entity retorts with "the harvest is now", which in my eyes, is saying there is no point extending a life that will live past the harvest in a normal life span. (I see it like... putting a new car part in a car right before going into the scrap crusher)
The way Ive understood some of the other people on this forum state the harvest is NOW (meaning we are being harvested right now, and it is a gradual process). I do not think this is being visualized correctly.
Another supporting argument used by people believing in an individual's gradual harvest, which I actually see as evidence of an abrupt harvest when seen in context:
Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?Ra states that the transition period OF OUR PLANET(NOT the individual entity/currently 3rd density person reading this) will be 100 - 700 of our years. It makes the statement about the volatility of our peoples because we affect the planet greatly.
Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.
Later in the same session (in context):
Quote:40.10 Questioner: I am assuming that this vibratory increase began about twenty to thirty years ago. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The first harbingers of this were approximately forty-five of your years ago, the energies vibrating more intensely through the forty year period preceding the final movement of vibratory matter, shall we say, through the quantum leap, as you would call it.
40 years leading up to Ra contact -> the final movement of vibratory matter(30 years after Ra contact) -> "QUANTUM LEAP"
Quantum leap from 2nd > 4th density, at the end of the previously mentioned 30ish year period. Again, of the planet itself.
Does the Ra material not also state that in order to manifest into 4th desnity, you must leave your 3rd density vehicle.
So my scenario is: semi-cataclysmic event (on par with what happened to Atlantis according to Ra. The only people that survived on land were on the 3 highest mountains in the world because they knew the cataclysm was coming. They state that the world no longer viable for that density, so they just go ahead and harvest everyone instead of waiting for everyone to make it through naturally. (humans are the only farmers that I know of... The harvest is a concept for sentient beings only, no?)
My reason for addressing this: I feel like there are quite a few people that read these forums that are of a similar mindset in abrupt vs gradual harvest. And whenever anyone asks a question or address anything about that, certain people say that it started before you were born and you will have all the time you need in this density. It sounds very ambiguous... You just state it like its a fact, and dont state that there is any controversy over it. At the very least, we should have a sticky thread addressing that there is controversy over this so newcomers (like me a month or two ago, I was very confused by this bc I believed and, after further investigation, continue to believe in an abrupt scenario).
Also, I just dont know what youre picturing. So... you think by the end of the harvest (2012-2013ish)... Will just live out their normal lifespan? But what about having kids after the harvest is up? Wont people notice that everyone is dying off and nobody is being born? It cant transition to the next 3rd density cycle... because this planet will be no longer viable for 3rd density beings. So people have to die off and go to a different 3rd density planet. And if its 100-700 years before the planet will be viable for 4th density positive polarity entities... So you just expect the planet to wait for everyone to naturally die off? But what about having kids after the harvest is up? Can you even have kids? They cant manifest into 3rd density vehicle bc the planet is no longer viable for that. Wont people notice that everyone is dying off and nobody is being born? It cant transition to the next 3rd density cycle... because this planet will be no longer viable for 3rd density beings. So people have to die off and go to a different 3rd density planet. I doubt it... but this is my probability B. The arguments just dont hold water for me. But for lack of a better plan B, I have been *attempting* to live my physical vehicle's life as though it WONT be abruptly ended here shortly by a cataclysm.
P.S. / abstract lighthearted-thought: think of the beginnings of civilization personified by the egyptians... Did they have a harvest on a precise schedule, or did the lolly-gag around and be sure to take their time? Planting / harvesting on a precise schedule is much more efficient than just letting stuff run wild and just walking around in a wild orchard and plucking when ripe.
Edit: By abrupt Im referring to a global abrupt end to 3rd density beings. Im not trying to sound negative... It is just something that I feel in my heart, and it doesnt feel negative at all. It feels like being brought together with all my 7billionish neighbors and with infinity once again, until I hopefull manifest back here in 4th desnity on 4th density Terra =OD