(02-01-2019, 09:31 AM)Cyan Wrote: Wind and water work well together.
Only if you have hydro power plants on rivers.
Wind doesn't work. Because of it's inherent un-reliability, it falls below any other "renewable" source, as you need power backups, sometimes for days.
And for a nation, you can't store it in "batteries" like you can do for your own home.
EROEI , Energy Returned on Energy Invested, for USA in US-spy agency created wiki it is says 1:20.
Reality is that even without installation and support it is 1:18.
But there's even worse news.
When you count installation and support , wind falls to 1:5 .
Wind is also unreliable, as I said, and you need the whole power stations on alternative fuels to be on stand by when the wind stops. Which makes the whole wind "renew ability" nothing bot hot air and blowing the wind.
Two charts. I am sorry, reality can sometimes be tough.
EROI on Energy Invested
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EROI shifts , including installation and support. As you see here, two worst investments in energy is 1) Ethanol, which is nothing but fraud , and 2) Wind, which has the largest drop. Both of these "investments" are not sustainable as they don't produce enough energy (there's no nuclear on 2nd chart).
It's being said that over 10,000 wind turbines are now dead in California alone (no ROI).
Nuclear power shows up very well as a net provider of energy, and only hydro electricity is nearly comparable.
I am sorry that Rockfeller owned US oil monopoly Standard Oil, currently called Exxon-Mobil (and 20 other smaller subsidiaries) made you think completely different. "Science" that monopoly money can buy...Oh, these naughty oil companies and their financing of the anti-nuclear, anti-coal, anti-hydro and "green" fake news and organizations....