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    Thread: Changing thoughts to better serve our goals


    Karl (Offline)

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    #1
    05-05-2013, 08:38 PM
    This is one of my favorite topics: Our thoughts and how they affect us. Generally my thoughts are 'formatted' using the words of my language (English).

    The difficulty with thoughts is that between the different minds (neocortex, limbic, stem) it seems words don't transfer well (or at least it's the case in my mind).

    Here are the guidlines I wrote down before:
    1. Time is now. Past and future aren't understood.
    2. Negatives are not understood (not, un-,won't, etc / Focusing on lack does not manifest abundance)
    3. Emotion/will/desire is the driving power behind the thought/belief
    4. Belief is a modifier of #3
    5. Intent determines what you get (vague intent/vague success)

    So the newest thing I'm trying to do is while thinking throughout the day, have my thoughts be positive.

    So when a disliked event happens I can think several things:

    1. I hate this (My go to thought usually)
    2. How can I make this situation better?
    3. I have no love for (insert event) ***#3 uses a negative of a positive to describe the event so it should link to a positive in the deep mind.

    I'm trying to figure out which thoughts would be most beneficial. Generally now I immediately focus on how I can better the situation.

    Thoughts opinions?
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    05-05-2013, 08:43 PM
    It's easy for me to get into negative thinking, but I'm actually not as bad at that as I could be. Lately things have been more positive. But I do get the occasional angry thought of hitting someone. Does a bad thought of punching someone for making you angry, if you don't act on it, incur karma? If so, just forgiving ourself for the bad thought makes the karma go away?
    And how do I know I don't have any lingering karma that's going to keep me bound to Earth after my time here is done? I'm so ready to graduate and don't want Karma weighing me down.

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    #3
    05-06-2013, 01:11 AM
    When stressful things happen to me I usually ask myself the question "why?" "Why am I willing this for myself? Why do I need this experiance? What can I learn from this? Why am I troubled by this circumstance? Why do I feel pain? Why am I attached to this certain outcome?"

    The answers I get are extremely beneficial and help me fully utilize the opportunity for catalyst.
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    05-06-2013, 02:10 AM
    Just sitting with whatever thoughts flow thru and be aware of what is happening - to your stream of thoughts, emotions, body sensations, memories, imageries and so on. When the time comes when things make sense (like have some sort of awareness/understanding) I accept it and move on. To be critical or deny a thought merely bc they are negative may just repress what needs to be examined and deny a part of self that thinks/experiences something in a certain way. So I guess it's like sitting with an old friend and listening to its needs and desires, validating its experience, and coming to a place of acceptance.

    Self-empathy and self-compassion is important I think.

    As Ra said (tho probably in another context) no need to overcome something, let it fall away.
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    #5
    05-07-2013, 03:03 AM
    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: Thoughts opinions?

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: 1. Time is now. Past and future aren't understood.

    Whether you are thinking about the future or the past, the vibration you are activating by that focus is occurring in the NOW.

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: 2. Negatives are not understood (not, un-,won't, etc / Focusing on lack does not manifest abundance)

    Whatever you focus on will increase.

    If you focus on lack, the experience of lack will grow. If you focus on abundance, the experience of abundance will grow.

    Words are unnatural to the deeper mind. So if one says something to the effect of, "I will not see spiders, I will not see spiders, I will not see spiders." They will most likely manifest the experience of seeing many spiders -- not because the deeper mind fails to understand the concept of lack, but rather the focus in this example is predominately on "spiders". The language of the deeper mind is simply attention.

    It's like trying not to think of a "pink elephant", you immediately think of "pink elephants".

    You cannot deactivate a active vibration by continuing to focus upon it. Any focus upon it just activates the vibration more. To deactivate an unwanted vibration, you must activate another different vibration.

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: 3. Emotion/will/desire is the driving power behind the thought/belief

    Desire/will/intent is the driver or motivator of attention/focus/thought which is energy of creation.

    Emotions are our physical perception of the vibrational relativity or balance between our desires and our beliefs.

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: 4. Belief is a modifier of #3

    Belief is the level of resistance or allowance to a given focus of attention.

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: 5. Intent determines what you get (vague intent/vague success)

    Intent/desire/preference carves out your ideal manifestation. The whole engine of creation is designed to engender preference within you. Your level of resistance (beliefs) determine how specifically the manifestation will adhere to the vibrational ideal you have carved out through your exposure to contrast/catalyst. No resistance to intent means you manifest exactly what you wanted to manifest. This is the ideal we seek when attempting to hone our abilities at manifestation.

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: So the newest thing I'm trying to do is while thinking throughout the day, have my thoughts be positive.

    So when a disliked event happens I can think several things:

    1. I hate this (My go to thought usually)
    2. How can I make this situation better?

    Not bad. You are moving your focus from the problem to the answer to the problem. That is very beneficial from a manifestors standpoint.

    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: 3. I have no love for (insert event) ***#3 uses a negative of a positive to describe the event so it should link to a positive in the deep mind.

    Personally, what I have found works best is to just look for redeeming qualities in whatever the experience was. There is wanted and unwanted in every particle of the universe. Focus on the wanted in every situation, and you can't help but eventually manifest more of it. Think of it as "emotional alchemy". You are mining the gold of positivity out of the proverbial lead of every experience. Distill the positive, and keep at it. You will release more and more resistance every time, your vibration will soar to new heights.

    Your desires will begin to flow into your experience effortlessly.
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    05-07-2013, 05:27 AM (This post was last modified: 05-07-2013, 07:15 AM by xise.)
    I think one of the best skills about life we learned long ago in English class.

    Remember those discussions in class when something happened to one of the characters and the teacher and everyone would discuss what they thought it meant symbolically? Sometimes something seemingly random would happen to a character, but in class discussion we'd find meaning in that the author was trying to convey that the character was out of balance in such and such way.

    I try to approach all catalyst as if my life was a book.

    And in the end, I go with these reactions to catalyst:
    1. What concept is the universe trying to better acquaint me with?
    2. What energy center (s) is this concept related to?

    Those two reactions along have helped me learn so much. The catalytic concepts and lessons are so interlinked to energy centers its not even funny!

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    05-07-2013, 09:07 AM
    (05-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Karl Wrote: This is one of my favorite topics: Our thoughts and how they affect us. Generally my thoughts are 'formatted' using the words of my language (English).

    The difficulty with thoughts is that between the different minds (neocortex, limbic, stem) it seems words don't transfer well (or at least it's the case in my mind).

    Here are the guidlines I wrote down before:
    1. Time is now. Past and future aren't understood.
    2. Negatives are not understood (not, un-,won't, etc / Focusing on lack does not manifest abundance)
    3. Emotion/will/desire is the driving power behind the thought/belief
    4. Belief is a modifier of #3
    5. Intent determines what you get (vague intent/vague success)

    So the newest thing I'm trying to do is while thinking throughout the day, have my thoughts be positive.

    So when a disliked event happens I can think several things:

    1. I hate this (My go to thought usually)
    2. How can I make this situation better?
    3. I have no love for (insert event) ***#3 uses a negative of a positive to describe the event so it should link to a positive in the deep mind.

    I'm trying to figure out which thoughts would be most beneficial. Generally now I immediately focus on how I can better the situation.

    Thoughts opinions?

    For me, when disliked events happen I imagine how I would like for them to have happened then think:

    1. I love _________ (fill in the blank with your picture of what you'd like to have happened. For example, if it rains when you're supposed to have a picnic, think, I love sunshine for a picnic). I also thank Creator for the opportunity to learn from whatever happened.



    2. Yes, I ask how I can improve things. Then affirm to myself "I am . . . ." doing whatever is needed. (Instead of I am going to). All is now.

    3. I try to avoid the negative to positive thinking. I agree with Karl that we increase what we focus on. So I just affirm "I love . . . ." then state the positive. "I love having all that I need". I also give thanks to Creator that I have all that I need.

    4. I love, and I give thanks. Now = always.

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    05-07-2013, 10:51 AM (This post was last modified: 05-07-2013, 10:53 AM by Ashim.)
    This is just a little 'off the cuff' observation.
    I'm pretty sure that most thoughts we experience or mentalize are not always our own.
    They seem to exist in the societal mind as a type of subliminal command.
    If we actually look carefully at the words then often another meaning appears, embedded in the letters.
    For example let's take the word 'thought' itself.
    THOUGHT - now what could be the hidden meaning?
    Take a closer look - (THOU) OUGHT, or in modern english - YOU SHOULD. It's an obligation.
    So what we are thinking would seem for the most part to be 'farmed' from the societal mind in the form of memes.
    Culture, which according to McKenna is not our 'friend', is responsible for these fragments of consciousness, so we as individuals are not always the creators per se of these thoughts that we use to interpret and conceptualize.
    In telepathic communication the charge is carried by emotion, not only by thought patterns. These thoughts may result in the down-stepping process but I feel that the extent of the 'heart content' has priority over thought.
    This may be why certain music or other art forms are able to carry such emotional content, which, can then be interpreted regardless of language or cultural programming.
    To quote a friend - "We no longer need words where we are going".
    Thought is creative, it's up to us to either default to the patterns that prevail in our world or to create, with emotional charge, the new thought patterns that will set us free as a new born Star Nation and wayshowers for the generations to come.
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    05-07-2013, 12:39 PM (This post was last modified: 05-07-2013, 12:39 PM by xise.)
    Very true. I can identify at least a few different thoughts,

    (1) some originate from my deeper self (higher self or maybe oversoul), (2) others from my mind,
    (3) others are like that song stuck in your head, and
    (4) quite possibly a fourth - thoughts from other entities that came to you because there is a small part of you that agrees with the thought.

    Very good point Ashim!!Smile
    (05-07-2013, 10:51 AM)Ashim Wrote: This is just a little 'off the cuff' observation.
    I'm pretty sure that most thoughts we experience or mentalize are not always our own.
    They seem to exist in the societal mind as a type of subliminal command.
    If we actually look carefully at the words then often another meaning appears, embedded in the letters.
    For example let's take the word 'thought' itself.
    THOUGHT - now what could be the hidden meaning?
    Take a closer look - (THOU) OUGHT, or in modern english - YOU SHOULD. It's an obligation.
    So what we are thinking would seem for the most part to be 'farmed' from the societal mind in the form of memes.
    Culture, which according to McKenna is not our 'friend', is responsible for these fragments of consciousness, so we as individuals are not always the creators per se of these thoughts that we use to interpret and conceptualize.
    In telepathic communication the charge is carried by emotion, not only by thought patterns. These thoughts may result in the down-stepping process but I feel that the extent of the 'heart content' has priority over thought.
    This may be why certain music or other art forms are able to carry such emotional content, which, can then be interpreted regardless of language or cultural programming.
    To quote a friend - "We no longer need words where we are going".
    Thought is creative, it's up to us to either default to the patterns that prevail in our world or to create, with emotional charge, the new thought patterns that will set us free as a new born Star Nation and wayshowers for the generations to come.

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    05-07-2013, 07:23 PM
    Very good information everyone, thank you.

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