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Confused · 05-08-2013, 08:35 PM

Someone that I know has passed away, has died. This saddens me. This person leaves two grownup children who struggle to except their mom's passing. https://www.facebook.com/groups/19386463...0/?fref=ts

This person's death reminds me of my own mortality. How will I die? Will it be painful? Will it be after a long painful illness? I am afraid to die. All my life I have been afraid to die. Yet at times I wanted to die.

The first time I had to deal with death I was 9 years old. A younger girl about 4 years old died while in a diabetic coma. I felt such a sense of loss. I talked to my mom about missing this person. She did not know what to say. I tried to talk to my dad later. He pretty much avoided saying anything.

So I grew up with this big emptiness inside of me. Every time I hear about someone dying that I knew, I am reminded of this emptiness. I don't recognize it as emptiness at first. Other emotions show up like shock, fear, anger. But then I come to this point where there is just emptiness, maybe loneliness. Eventually I just tuck it away somewhere until another day when it resurfaces. For some reason I have never learned to deal with death.

AnthroHeart · 05-08-2013, 08:44 PM

I've had my grandma and great grandma die. Though I wasn't really close to them, so it didn't upset me. There were a number of times I thought I was dying, and I welcomed it as it was peaceful. But that was my mind and my schizophrenia lying to me. There were times where I longed for death. But I don't want to die violently or painfully. I had even pondered suicide a few times in my life. But I realized it would be a bad idea. One time it was because I was ashamed of what I had done. Another time I pondered it because I was afraid that I was being dragged to hell and wanted to stop that process. But I survived through the experience. I haven't had a lot of trauma in my life fortunately, but I often get random thoughts of suicide.

Ruth · 05-08-2013, 10:52 PM

(05-08-2013, 08:35 PM)Jimhu Wrote: Someone that I know has passed away, has died. This saddens me. This person leaves two grownup children who struggle to except their mom's passing. https://www.facebook.com/groups/19386463...0/?fref=ts

This person's death reminds me of my own mortality. How will I die? Will it be painful? Will it be after a long painful illness? I am afraid to die. All my life I have been afraid to die. Yet at times I wanted to die.

The first time I had to deal with death I was 9 years old. A younger girl about 4 years old died while in a diabetic coma. I felt such a sense of loss. I talked to my mom about missing this person. She did not know what to say. I tried to talk to my dad later. He pretty much avoided saying anything.

So I grew up with this big emptiness inside of me. Every time I hear about someone dying that I knew, I am reminded of this emptiness. I don't recognize it as emptiness at first. Other emotions show up like shock, fear, anger. But then I come to this point where there is just emptiness, maybe loneliness. Eventually I just tuck it away somewhere until another day when it resurfaces. For some reason I have never learned to deal with death.

I'm so sorry for this family's loss of their loved one. I will send them love and light as they learn to continue on without her. Working through grief can be a very long and painful journey.

Like you, Jimhu, I experienced the death of a loved one at a very early age. Intellectually, and even spiritually, I know that there really is no "death" - there is just transition. But those who are left behind have emotions to work through. A sense of loss and hurt and pain, even anger.

I have not found a way for anyone else to help me with that work. I've had to just dig deep within myself and do the work myself.

So, I'll also send you love and light as you work through your feelings about death.

Jeremy · 05-09-2013, 07:07 AM

When my grandfather died a couple months ago, I only shed a few tears at the moment I found then none at his funeral. As soon as the sadness of the loss came about, I suddenly remembered that not only did he get to escape this illusion, he also finally got his wish which was to die. He had been wishing such for 15 years ever since my grandmother died thus he pretty much closed all of us out since then. He would occasionally agree to come over for holidays but then leave shortly after it started. I always had the feeling that he was riddled with guilt and regret regarding my grandmother so any family type events always reminded him of her.

While at his funeral, I was dumbfounded for one as I couldn't understand the silly ritualistic military style service but because everyone was so sad. They just weren't aware of what lies on the other side so I just stood trying not to smile for the sake if looking out of place.

Instead of it being a time of celebration, most just wept which is the main reason why I just don't believe in the way funerals are done.

Ashim · 05-09-2013, 07:40 AM

I attended a funeral 2 days ago. It was a neighbour and very good friend of our family.
It was a catholic service - basically the whole intent of the event was to amplify the sadness felt by the congregation.
The priest did a good job of that.
Then you are told that 'Jesus will save you'.
It was like a reinforcement of external power over the individuals present.
Repent, repent. You dreadful sinners!
I was there during the service but almost became physically 'sick'.
I then left as they went out into the graveyard.
I could not help but to count the amount of blatent lies that the priest has spouted.
Then I realized how this was actually a tool and not just a malicious act by the church.
They seemed to try to convince the folks that 'there is only one life'.
Although we know this not to be true it does act as catalyst for those that choose to obey this type of authority.
As Ra said, "There are no mistakes".

Horuseus · 05-09-2013, 10:42 AM

Death is actually (re)birth to your true self. It is a beautiful gift and an awakening. It could be argued that being born in this density was 'death'.

I would say to celebrate the life of said individual, for what they did. They are in Love and wish for you know of the same.

carrie · 05-10-2013, 06:41 AM

When you die, you go through a tunnel. At the end of the tunnel is a small beacon of light. As you go nearer and nearer to the light, you start to step on a very cloudy place.

As you walk, the steps become more hotter and hotter, more radiant with love. Except it is so loving, it washing away all your sins, you become whiter than white. All the bad things you do, goes away. It is irrelevant, does not matter.

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The second class of those who ward this process are those of the Confederation who have the honor/duty of standing in the small places at the edge of the steps of light/love so that those entities being harvested will not, no matter how confused or unable to make contact with their higher self, stumble and fall away for any reason other than the strength of the light. These Confederation entities catch those who stumble and set them aright so that they may continue into the light.

All mistakes you made are just learning lessons to see yourself. There are no mistakes but lessons you learn.

One day I hope to be part of the welcoming party but that is not for me to choose.

christine10 · 05-10-2013, 11:24 AM

I CANT wait to be (re)born.....and I dont mean that in I wanna kill myself way or that Im out there tempting fate......just that everything Ive always been told all my life about "THE OTHERSIDE or "HEAVEN" has been SO AMAZING theres no words to describe it, so to me its always been kinda strange why EVERYONE isnt THRILLED about it, I seriously get excited when I think about that day and I know this is gonna sound strange but when someone I knows dies I think "LUCKY BASTARD"......is that wrong?

Please Dont misunderstand me,I dont mean any disrespect,of course I feel a sadness, FOR ME or the family thats left behind, cause of the loss of that person but man the things they are gonna see and do and feel, to me that out weighs everything else, and Im excited for them......again, is that wrong?

I understand that Im probably not the "NORM" in my thinking but Iam completely at ease with death and believe me Ive had my share of it,which includes grandparents,father, a big brother whos death was questionable(accidental or murder) at age 38 and a 2yro nephew who fell in our pool and was in a coma till he died at age 11 and oddly it was my bro. who found him and pulled him outta pool,his death was also a drowning, not sure if theres any kinda symbolism or connection with that ,I always thought so!!!

So anyone else feel at all the same....just curious ...am I a bit off or is it a pretty common feeling amongst others,Ive never really had the proper arena for such a discussion!!!

Live long and prosper BigSmile

norral · 05-10-2013, 01:40 PM

ive always had a curiousity about death. years ago i used to go into old graveyards and read the tombstones. a couple of 100 years ago a lot of people died very young from smallpox. it was not uncommon to die in your 20's in this country. i've done a lot of reading about it and thought about the message that i would like to leave behind at my funeral for those who attend. and i dont want someone holding the service who doesnt know me saying norral was this or that. how would he know who i was he didnt know me ha ha.
one of the more interesting things i have read about death is that when u die an angel comes to you and asks u 2 questions. the first is
what did u learn, meaning what did u learn in the spiritual sense.
the second is who did u help.
now that gets to the core of the issue. if we lead a decent honest life what is there to be concerned about. death is freeing . we are freed from the body prison and its limitations and we are going home to be welcomed and restored until we decide to embark on another adventure. i look at death as a reward for a life well lived, but that is just my own personal take. certainly it is NOT anything to be feared.

norral Heart

Ashim · 05-10-2013, 02:22 PM

I remember my last 'death' very vividly. Going back and experiencing it again was part of my healing process.
If you are surrounded by fearful otherselves then it is quite difficult to remain 'fearless' yourself.
I lost some polarity and due to the experience I was bound for an incarnation.
I think that the moments just preceding death are instrumental in what happens just after.
One may be sad that the life experience was not a personal success, maybe tinged with a feeling of disapointment.

Marc · 05-10-2013, 04:34 PM

Once the true reality of death is discovered, the only pain left, is that of attachment to the outcome of the person gone. Once we accept what is, death can be a beautiful occasion.

AnthroHeart · (This post was last modified: 05-10-2013, 06:00 PM by AnthroHeart.)

(05-10-2013, 01:40 PM)norral Wrote: one of the more interesting things i have read about death is that when u die an angel comes to you and asks u 2 questions. the first is
what did u learn, meaning what did u learn in the spiritual sense.
the second is who did u help.

This is very good to know norral. It inspires me. I serve my mom whenever she needs something. She's made me mad a couple of times, and I'm glad I never hit her. She made me think about it a number of times. When the angel talks to me I want to be innocent as much as possible going forward. What I learned is that life is hard. It's important to live life from a place of love. But I've read that in other places. It's not like I invented that. So anything I could tell the angel is stuff I've read or learned through other people. Nothing I'd say would be original.

(05-10-2013, 02:22 PM)Ashim Wrote: One may be sad that the life experience was not a personal success, maybe tinged with a feeling of disapointment.

I think that knowing about karma, and knowing the Law of One, and our life experiences can better help us to make our lives a personal success. I've had some disappointment, but I've learned my lessons. I still make mistakes, but I don't let them get me down like I used to. I can make this life a success. I want to be able to tell my guides and angels and the council of elders that I did my best. Though my idea of serving is as it's needed, rather than going out there and trying to volunteer. Though volunteering might score more brownie points, that's not what I am after. I want to be pure in the eyes of my guardian angel.

(05-10-2013, 11:24 AM)christine10 Wrote: I CANT wait to be (re)born.....and I dont mean that in I wanna kill myself way or that Im out there tempting fate......just that everything Ive always been told all my life about "THE OTHERSIDE or "HEAVEN" has been SO AMAZING theres no words to describe it, so to me its always been kinda strange why EVERYONE isnt THRILLED about it, I seriously get excited when I think about that day and I know this is gonna sound strange but when someone I knows dies I think "LUCKY BASTARD"......is that wrong?

I agree with you. I've actually thought I was dying a few times, and it was peaceful, if not thrilling to me. I don't mind dying, just that I don't want it to be painful. And I definitely don't want a suicide on my plate cause I don't really want to come back here. So I've got another say 50 years of life. I can make it. If I do die violently like in a car wreck, I hope it's quick.

AnthroHeart · (This post was last modified: 05-10-2013, 08:46 PM by AnthroHeart.)

(05-10-2013, 02:22 PM)Ashim Wrote: I think that the moments just preceding death are instrumental in what happens just after.

Agreed. I've heard in the teachings of Matthew Ward that once on the other side is like a hospital ward where you slowly acclimate to the new experience. But if someone died on a battlefield, they will see a battlefield setting on the other side, and slowly the noises will be silenced and it will become more soothing.

God I am so curious about the other side. Life here has its ups and downs. It's been very hard at times. I wonder if the other side is all easy. Well, besides facing the mistakes one has made if there are any mistakes. That can probably be a brutal experience, knowing the times when you didn't act in love.

P.S. I like this guy's near death experience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-tbe_iLuzs

Ashim · 05-11-2013, 01:20 AM

I've got a feeling that the only ones to physically 'die' in the coming times will be those whose bodies and patterns of mind are not of a high enough frequency to otherwise make the transition.
Much of what is being talked about here in repect of death can, I'm sure, be worked out during dreamtime. I mean the process of 'walking the steps of light' that would normally occur after death, I think we get a divine dispensation to do this work now.
I feel that much dreamtime is about loosening karmic bonds, I am separating from some souls, be it only for a while. Our vibrations would seem to not be compatible, our paths to be different.
Everyone has their soul contract, the list of things they wanted to achieve in this incarnation, so some will have the death/rebirth cycle as part of their plan. HOWEVER - there is always the possibility of re-writing the contract. If you recall the final scenes of the movie 'Defending your Life' - this would be what I mean.
I was also given some information (here in 3d) about 'memory implants' and their use.
Somehow (don't ask me about the science behind this) it is possible for a person to be implanted with a programm that helps 'undo the knots' of karmic binding. This was explained to me as a 'last minute' method of helping a soul ascend. The content of the drama is somehow farmed from the Akash and enables the person to do much inner work in a very short period of our 'time'.
It's like settling old debts. The hospital ward setting followed by courtrooms and a trial.
As I said this info was sent directly to me by Guardians and was not a dreamtime experience.
There may be a connection to what Sheldon Nidle calls 'light chambers', whereby not all of the material from this channel resonates with me.

Confused · 05-11-2013, 05:03 AM

(05-08-2013, 08:35 PM)Jimhu Wrote: Someone that I know has passed away, has died. This saddens me. This person leaves two grownup children who struggle to except their mom's passing. https://www.facebook.com/groups/19386463...0/?fref=ts

Thank you for giving it a very real human face by linking the FB page, Jimhu. It makes the entire post of yours that much more personal and meaningful.

Parsons · 05-11-2013, 05:17 AM

I have never really been afraid of death, even before when I was an atheist. I figured it was the one thing I had no control over. My lack of fear of death has not changed, but my view towards my willingness to continue this incarnation has drastically.

After I first awakened I also became enamored with the concept of 'the other side'. It really does sound amazing. Later, I realized a number of things which changed my flirtation with death. I chose to have this incarnation, otherwise I would be enjoying the otherside right now. Further, I realized that time is an illusion and all is simultaneous, so I am in fact experiencing Myself in all other densities, 'past' and 'future'.

Also, due to seniority of vibration and the extreme popularity this planetary population is enjoying at the moment due to our calling, I must have really, really wanted to come here. So ending this incarnation prematurely would serve no one. I could liken it to deciding to go to Disney Land and spending all the money (and time spent at a job) it takes for entrance to the park, travel, and lodging; then proceeding to fantasize about going home 20 minutes after arriving due to difficulties with long lines, etc.

I look forward to overcoming all the hurdles associated with continuing this incarnation and I will no longer constantly wish I was 'on the other side'. I feel my previous disposition played in to the 'grass is always greener on the other side' motif and caused me much depression.

AnthroHeart · (This post was last modified: 05-11-2013, 08:49 PM by AnthroHeart.)

Parsons, I'm not sure if we take our concerns with us to the other side. But I saw a video account of an NDE suicide attempt where she was in her own emotional hell after passing over because of her baggage. So you might take your baggage with you. I'm not sure. I've also heard that the pain and sadness immediately stop when you're going through the tunnel to the other side. I've recently become interested in what happens on the other side. I've been interested before, but have a newkindled interest now.

(05-11-2013, 05:17 AM)Parsons Wrote: Also, due to seniority of vibration and the extreme popularity this planetary population is enjoying at the moment due to our calling, I must have really, really wanted to come here. So ending this incarnation prematurely would serve no one.

This makes sense. I too must have really wanted to come here, even despite the frustrations of work when I go back there. And my mom can frustrate me as well. I count my blessings while I'm here. Have a wonderful dog that brings me joy. I agree that ending early would be a disservice to me and those in my soul group who could learn a lot from my life. The long life, if I am blessed with one, will provide great teaching material for my soul family, who can review my life with me. I just don't want to come back again when I've crossed over. At least not to 3D.

I almost can't wait to be greeted by an angel or a guide on the other side who will guide me into the light a la City of Angels. I don't want to get lost.

3nT · 05-14-2013, 03:15 PM

When my grand mother died I smiled, I really knew/know that she felt better as soon as she crossed over, she died a very painful death caused by liver cancer. My cousin said "how dare you smile, grand Ma died" and I told him " you dont understand yet" I was 10 years old.

I've all ways say that when we "die" here, we are born somewhere else.

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