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11-05-2011, 07:49 AM
i used to feel i was watched. now i understand that's my higher self or god, i then took it to be god. but it felt like it was me. i pray to Archangel Michael and Archangel Metatron mostly. cuz i've read that they help with protecting and healing. i have a book on angels that i got from someone. i also pray to my guardian angels or St. Anthony if i've lost something.
11-18-2011, 05:09 PM
(12-29-2009, 10:00 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: Hi Kristy, Interesting subject... metaphysic... my favorite! I'll share the following with you In the old monastic ways, there was and probably still exists four daily techniques for connecting with "God": 1/ meditation 2/ contemplation 3/ praise and 4/ prayer Today, we could call these four techniques by different terms and, could define them further and briefly as: 1/ inner listening, for meditation 2/ heart connection, for contemplation. 3/ state of gratitude and thankfulness, for praise. 4/ inner talking and sincere asking, for prayer. I am not in religion. After all each of the three Abrahamic religions are keeping the true techniques and knowledge well hidden from the mass and devotees whom they feed instead with superstition in order to keep them in fear and under their control as an established organization, very much as in a pyramidal system. The faster people free themselves from those organization and replace superstition by truth and light, the sooner we'll reach a state of enlightenment for all. You said, I was wondering how prayer fits into the big picture if we are all "God"? Good question. So, who to are we really listening, connecting, gratefully rending grace and asking? Some may know already, the answer is: the spirit, our own and individual Spirit, the Holy Spirit... the same spirit Carla calls 'Holy' or 'Holly' (spelling may needs checking). What we call "God" is the unity represented by the body/mind/spirit complex where the spirit is a part of. So, yes we are what we call God, each of us is but then, for being God, the requisite is to have connected with our spirit and to keep ourselves (the ego part called also the mind) in constant connection with our spirit at all time. Uniting those three parts within us is when we become ONE and, is the meaning of the Law of One. This is the awakened state, the adept state which one reaches when we have touched Intelligent Infinity (Ra's term). The touching of Intelligent Infinity IS the connection with the spirit and, the bringing back of our Spirit within us. We say then that the Spirit is in us. We then become One and, the Spirit then becomes our only guide. I Mean that there are many steps to the state of Unity and, those are all valid and perfect but when you connect with spirit then there is no need for other guides than our Spirit. :idea: and Peace
11-19-2011, 04:48 PM
For me, prayer influences the Field. Our words create ripples from a higher density that filter down and do things. The more emotional influence we have behind our words, the more effective they can be.
11-19-2011, 04:50 PM
i hope all those buttholes that pray gays straight don't succeed.
11-20-2011, 12:10 AM
(11-19-2011, 04:48 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: For me, prayer influences the Field. ...The more emotional influence we have behind our words, the more effective they can be. I agree. The emotional body gives the prayer its power of manifestation. This is why heart power is so much emphasized in all spiritual work, including LofO.
11-20-2011, 10:54 AM
By "emotion" are y'all referring to a spinning chakra?
I struggle with defining both.
11-20-2011, 11:02 AM
I've heard you can't create in someone else's reality, so praying to change someone else won't work.
11-20-2011, 11:05 AM
(11-20-2011, 11:02 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've heard you can't create in someone else's reality, so praying to change someone else won't work. I think it changes our mindset toward who we pray for. Kind of a process of achieving forgiveness and acceptance. EDIT: Unless of course we actually believe we are changing someone else. That would be a practice in futility. Which is what you were saying. (inserting foot in mouth)
11-20-2011, 11:13 AM
(11-20-2011, 11:02 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've heard you can't create in someone else's reality, so praying to change someone else won't work.You can't exercise someone's will on their behalf, but you can introduce catalyst and possibilities - in other words, introduce potential for work to be done. That potential is limited by what is capable of being accepted by both parties.
11-21-2011, 03:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-21-2011, 04:00 PM by AnthroHeart.)
Zen, do you mean by direct influence, such as by what you say or do in their presence? Or you can introduce catalyst in another through prayer, or indigo work?
I've tuned into others and they tell me they feel warm fuzzies when I do so. That I think is catalyst. (11-20-2011, 11:13 AM)zenmaster Wrote: You can't exercise someone's will on their behalf, but you can introduce catalyst and possibilities - in other words, introduce potential for work to be done. That potential is limited by what is capable of being accepted by both parties.
11-22-2011, 12:09 AM
(11-20-2011, 10:54 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: By "emotion" are y'all referring to a spinning chakra? Some excerpts from Q'uo on "The function and use of emotions" http://www.llresearch.org/newsletters/issues/2009_4.pdf Quote:Whereas the mind moves from thought to thought, generally governed by logic and the intellect, the heart moves from emotion to emotion, generally with no intellectual component whatsoever. For emotions are those gifts of the heart that stem from the very depths and roots of your consciousness. ... Thank you Q'uo. Because prayers and requests are powered by emotions, it is always helpful to understand more about them.
11-22-2011, 01:01 AM
(11-21-2011, 03:59 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Zen, do you mean by direct influence, such as by what you say or do in their presence? Or you can introduce catalyst in another through prayer, or indigo work?Depends on how one would define their "prayer". "prayer" could be an attempt to communicate with intelligent energy, just like "indigo work". I just see the symbolic elements suggested and address what seems to need adjustment. To me it works quickly, however there is a period beforehand which requires some time re-familiarizing with balance. Definitely something that works differently for each person, based on how they relate to or dialog with their own imaginations.
11-22-2011, 11:17 AM
Don't fell you embarrassed its up to you dude that you how you can make to yourself happy whether your mod is not good its up in your mind so ignore all the things which tease you and make you embarrassed. so now best of luck for you future time and be happy always
11-22-2011, 11:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-22-2011, 12:18 PM by AnthroHeart.)
(11-22-2011, 01:01 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-21-2011, 03:59 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Zen, do you mean by direct influence, such as by what you say or do in their presence? Or you can introduce catalyst in another through prayer, or indigo work?Depends on how one would define their "prayer". "prayer" could be an attempt to communicate with intelligent energy, just like "indigo work". I just see the symbolic elements suggested and address what seems to need adjustment. To me it works quickly, however there is a period beforehand which requires some time re-familiarizing with balance. Definitely something that works differently for each person, based on how they relate to or dialog with their own imaginations. I like this "dialog with your imagination", because my imagination can be strong. I after all had a creation within me that felt very real. But this had a tendency to pull my mind and body to dark places. So balance is always important. Some of the catalyst now is getting weirder.
I don't know that I actually "pray" in the contemporary sense. Though, I do ask for blessings for my loved ones and any who might need something to their highest good each morning. Beyond that, I have sort of a meandering discourse with the Creator about things that are happening.
I usually end that talk with the following from a Qu'o session (can't remember which one) that has always resonated well with me. What is your will for me today? How shall I serve? What shall I experience? And, in what shall I rejoice? Richard |
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