08-24-2010, 04:37 AM
(08-24-2010, 12:51 AM)Experience You Wrote: Unity
I've been trying to clarify this further for both our sakes
So
Let's start on what we agree:
The same consciousness that is me is also you which is also everything that is.
it is not the 'same consciousness'. actually, it cannot even be 'conscious' because, even being conscious is a distortion from the state of infinity.
infinity, is just is. it actually even isnt. it is both at the same time, so, you cant name it as 'is', or 'isnt', leave aside conscious or unconscious.
to outside observer like us, or anything below it as principle (which probably includes infinite intelligence, aka what some call god), it would probably appear as ultimate stillness.
Quote:Time is a self imposed constraint on the consciousness, hence the more aware you are the less time you have and more space instead.
The more aware you are the less time you have and the more space there is, up to the point you become/are infinity.
You are aware of everything, there is no change anymore hence no time.
There is not even a NOW per see because, well there is no reference for it.
You could say now, yesterday and tomorrow and it would be meaningless.
So a late 6th density, beginning 7th is really close to or about this. Towards no time and infinite space instead.
Does that work for you ?
it doesnt work for me. because your perception of time is still in days, in years, in regard to rotations of this planet and its revolving around its sun.
time, is change. in the above case, you compare the change in positions and inside nature of the planet to other changes in positions and natures of other planets or entities. time, is comparison of change.
so, as long as ANY kind of change exists, time also exists. even if it slows down a lot, or it speeds up a lot, time will keep existing. it isnt 'self imposed' or anything. it is there, because things change. as long as there are at least two entities that can be compared, time will exist. 'entity' here includes ANYthing beyond infinity as principle. ie, also infinite intelligence.
closing in on infinity from any point will not change the existence of time. it may get compressed or inflated a lot, but it will still exist, and proportions probably will never change.
moreover technically, it is to the contrary ; the more your spiritual mass gets larger, ie 'aware' you are, the less space you have, and the more time you have.
however, even if you reach the point of infinity from that route, it still wouldnt change the end result ; finite entity can never be infinity, it will take infinite time for it to reach infinity by expanding in spiritual mass. therefore, what probably happens at the end of 7d is not going back to infinity, but, going back to infinite intelligence, the principle 1 level below infinity.
'being one with all that there is' sentence has an important catch -> you can be one with all that there IS. ie, things that exist. you cant be one with things that there is not.
existence, itself is a distortion from the point of infinity.
moreover, there will always be a now, there will always be a reference point, because, the now you speak of had existed at one particular continuum, a point. it DOES exist, hence, it is also part of the infinity. along with whatever complementary counterpart it has in infinity to complete it to absolute stillness, it does exist.
'now' not existing would mean that something does not exist in infinity. which, would be impossible, because, infinity needs to be infinite. hence, everything needs to exist, and everything needs to not exist - everything existing needs to be complemented by its counterpart to total stillness and balance, even if this equilibrium can only be attained by merging infinite numbers of existences and their counterparts. this is a long topic probably in itself, but the point is simple :
if you know something had existed at ANY point, it will keep existing forever at that point, even at point infinity. it means that, whatever it was, even if a concept or thought, even if a state of matters, that thing, is a part of infinity. and for infinite to be infinite, it will keep forever existing at that point in the continuum.
even when you pass to 4 octaves later, the 'now' you speak of at this particular point in time, the state of all this universe and all the galaxies and solar systems and planets and the entities living in it and all accompanying situations, entities events feelings and emotions in time/space and space/time, will keep forever existing at this particular nexus.