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      Saturn
    Posted by: Focus123 - 12-13-2010, 04:32 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (8)

    Quote:RA: We were allowed this experiment by the council that guards this planet. This Council is located in the 8th dimension of the planet Saturn, taking place, in 3rd dimensional terms, in the rings of Saturn


    I don't understand this. Does every planet have 8 dimensions? I thought Ra after the 5th Density no longer resides on Venus.

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      Outline of the Law of One
    Posted by: Nabil Naser - 12-13-2010, 02:32 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

    It may be worth the effort to create an outline of the Law of One, starting with the first distortion.
    Do you think this is feasible?

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      4D Life Span...
    Posted by: kristy1111 - 12-13-2010, 02:14 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (4)

    Hello beautiful souls...

    My hubby and I were talking tonight about Ra and what was said regarding 4d. I seem to remember reading on this forum somewhere that Ra said that an incarnation in 4D lasted 90,000 years. I haven't finished even the first book yet (it is slooooow going - so hard for me to understand!). Is it true...? Did he say 90,000 years?

    2. If each incarnation is 90,000 years, is there only *one* incarnation in total, or are there many of that time length?

    3. I seem to remember (???) that it was also said that at the end of a 4D life, one didn't "get old" or "get sick" and then die, but one just knew the incarnation was over, and then would leave. Is that what Ra taught?

    4. Hubby wants to know if there is *any* sickness and death in 4D?

    Thanks so much for your help on this....
    Luv, Kristy

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      Elkins
    Posted by: Focus123 - 12-11-2010, 11:24 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (19)

    Why did Elkins commit suicide?

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      Function of the breath
    Posted by: jivatman - 12-10-2010, 07:59 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    I believe I have made a simple, but potentially extremely useful extrapolation from the Ra material. It concerns a simple metaphysical mechanic of the human body/subtle body.

    First, let us remember some of the basics of how the metphysics of the body works:

    Quote:49.5 Questioner: Will you expand on the positive and negative polarizations in general and how they apply to individuals and planets, etc.? I think there is a correlation here, but I’m not sure.

    Ra: I am Ra. It is correct that there is a correlation between the energy field of an entity of your nature and planetary bodies, for all material is constructed by means of the dynamic tension of the magnetic field. The lines of force in both cases may be seen to be much like the interweaving spirals of the braided hair. Thus positive and negative wind and interweave forming geometric relationships in the energy fields of both persons, as you would call a mind/body/spirit complex, and planets.

    The negative pole is the south pole or the lower pole. The north or upper pole is positive. The crisscrossing of these spiraling energies form primary, secondary, and tertiary energy centers. You are familiar with the primary energy centers of the physical, mental, and spiritual body complex. Secondary points of the crisscrossing of positive and negative center orientation revolve about several of your centers. The yellow-ray center may be seen to have secondary energy centers in elbow, in knee, and in the subtle bodies at a slight spacing from the physical vehicle at points describing diamonds about the entity’s naval area surrounding the body.

    One may examine each of the energy centers for such secondary centers. Some of your peoples work with these energy centers, and you call this acupuncture. However, it is to be noted that there are most often anomalies in the placement of the energy centers so that the scientific precision of this practice is brought into question. Like most scientific attempts at precision, it fails to take into account the unique qualities of each creation.

    The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

    As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.


    49.6 Questioner: What process would be the recommended process for correctly awakening the kundalini and of what value would that be?

    Ra: I am Ra. The metaphor of the coiled serpent being called upwards is vastly appropriate for consideration by your peoples. This is what you are attempting when you seek. There are, as we have stated, great misapprehensions concerning this metaphor and the nature of pursuing its goal. We must generalize and ask that you grasp the fact that this in effect renders far less useful that which we share. However, as each entity is unique, generalities are our lot when communicating for your possible edification.

    We have two types of energy. We are attempting then, as entities in any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further and further along or upward along the energy centers. The two methods of approaching this with sensible method are first, the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth.

    Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.


    Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.

    Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its height. When this uncoiled energy approaches universal love and radiant being the entity is in a state whereby the harvestability of the entity comes nigh.

    One more short quote portion:

    Quote:72.16

    The energies of life itself, being the One Infinite Creator, flow from the south pole of the body seen in its magnetic form. Thus only the Creator may, through the feet, enter the energy shell of the body to any effect. The effects of the adept are those from the upper direction and thus the building of the wall of light is quite propitious.

    May we ask if there are any shorter queries at this time?

    Alright, now I will attempt an explanation of this works, restating what Ra has said.

    First, energy enters the energy web of the earth through the cosmos. Then, the energy enters into the red ray and moves upwards through the subtle body of each individual.

    This energy you have no conscious control over, but rather as you become more balanced, you stop blocking it.

    That is, one who vibrates red ray sees all experience only in terms of survival, orange, is animalistic, yellow, social relations, ect.

    This energy is accepted or rejected, blocked or allowed, but you have no control over it itself.

    The other energy is the energy flowing downwards from the head. This is the energy you have conscious control over, the energy of the adept.

    Now, for what I think I've figured out.

    Quote:4.18 Questioner: I believe I have a little idea of the accomplishment of the first step. Can you elaborate a little bit on the other two steps which I am not at all familiar with.

    Ra: I am Ra. Imagine the body. Imagine the more dense aspects of the body. Proceed therefrom to the very finest knowledge of energy pathways which revolve and cause the body to be energized. Understand that all natural functions of the body have all aspects from dense to fine, and can be transmuted to what you may call sacramental. This is a brief investigation of the second area.

    To speak to the third, if you will, imagine the function of the magnet. The magnet has two poles. One reaches up. The other goes down. The function of the spirit is to integrate the upreaching yearning of the mind/body energy with the downpouring and streaming of infinite intelligence. This is a brief explication of the third area.

    Do you remember when Ra describes the primary chakras of mind, body, spirit?

    The primary chakra of spirit is the throat chakra.

    Now, what is spirit analogous to in the physical body? Breath.

    First, we get this from our language itself. Respiration, meaning to breath, has the same root.

    Ra also says that the throat chakra is the chakra of Inspiration.

    The function of spirit is to integrate the upwards and the downwards energies.

    Remember, the energy moving upwards is unconscious. The energy moving downwards is conscious.

    Now read the first quote about control of breathing from wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breathing#C..._breathing

    Breathing is one of the few bodily functions which, within limits, can be controlled both consciously and unconsciously.


    It is my supposition that this works as follows.

    The inbreath is the analagous to the unconscious portion, and the pulling into the body the energy from the cosmos.

    The out breath is where energy is pushed downwards from the upper direction, this is analogous to the conscious portion. We speak, of course on the out breath... and as throat chakra is the Ray of communication and of the co-creator, this makes sense.

    Note that in the ritual Ra gives the group involves out out-breaths.

    In any case, with proper use of breath one can begin to unify the conscious and unconscious.

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    Lightbulb Wow. Marriage comes up as an orange ray blockage
    Posted by: unity100 - 12-10-2010, 01:59 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (13)

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#16

    Quote:31.16 Questioner: I just need to know then if this works through the racial memory and infects the entire population in some way?

    Ra: I am Ra. The racial memory contains all that has been experienced. Thus there is some, shall we say, contamination even of the sexual, this showing mostly in your own culture as the various predispositions to adversary relationships, or, as you call them, marriages, rather than the free giving one to another in the love and the light of the Infinite Creator.

    they came to this point by the quotes preceding the above quote, regarding the sexual orange ray blockages of those of 3rd reich :

    Quote:31.14 Questioner: I was thinking more of the possibility of the Orion group influencing certain members of the Third Reich who I have read reports of having sexual gratification from the observation of the gassing and killing of entities in the gas chambers.

    Ra: I am Ra. We shall repeat these entities had the potential for sexual energy buildup. The choice of stimulus is certainly the choice of the entity. In the case of which you speak, these entities were strongly polarized orange ray, thus finding the energy blockage of power over others, the putting to death being the ultimate power over others; this then being expressed in a sexual manner, though solitary.

    In this case the desire would continue unabated and be virtually unquenchable.

    You will find, if you observe the entire spectrum of sexual practices among your peoples, that there are those who experience such gratification from domination over others either from rape or from other means of domination. In each case this is an example of energy blockage which is sexual in its nature.

    Category: Sexual Energy Transfer

    31.15 Questioner: Would the Orion group be able, then, to impress on entities this orange ray effect? Is this the way that this came about? If we go back to the beginning of third-density there must be a primal cause of this.

    Ra: I am Ra. The cause of this is not Orion. It is the free choice of your peoples. This is somewhat difficult to explain. We shall attempt.

    The sexual energy transfers and blockages are more a manifestation or example of that which is more fundamental than the other way about. Therefore, as your peoples became open to the concepts of bellicosity and the greed of ownership, these various distortions then began to filter down through the tree of mind into body complex expressions, the sexual expression being basic to that complex. Thus these sexual energy blockages, though Orion influenced and intensified, are basically the product of the being-ness chosen freely by your peoples.

    This will be the final question unless we may speak further upon this question to clarify, or answer any short queries before we close.

    Category: Sexual Energy Transfer

    This basically says that marriages as opposed to free acceptance of and giving to other individuals are a manifestation of the orange ray ownership blockages/distortions that were chosen by entities in the past, and then, these affect/taint entire societal mind through shared racial memories.

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      Male/Female
    Posted by: Focus123 - 12-10-2010, 08:29 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (33)

    Does Ra say that we incarnate both male and female?

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      Raising the planetary vibration
    Posted by: jivatman - 12-07-2010, 03:01 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (16)

    The Ra material seems to put a great deal of emphasis on the importance of the planetary vibration.

    We know that the reason why people no longer live 900 years is because our energy web got distorted because of the improper use of money, and this eventually reached and came to affect the sexual, as well.

    Here are some of Ra's quotes addressing the importance of raising the planetary vibration.

    First, those regarding wanderers:

    Quote:12.27 Questioner: How many of them (wanderers) are incarnate on Earth now?

    Ra: I am Ra. The number is approximate due to an heavy influx of those birthed at this time due to an intensive need to lighten the planetary vibration and thus aid in harvest. The number approaches sixty-five million
    .

    And, Ra addressing a direct question about the purpose of wanderers:

    Quote:52.9 Questioner: I would just include the question as to why the time of harvest is selected by so many Wanderers as time for incarnation?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are several reasons for incarnation during harvest. They may be divided by the terms self and other-self.

    The overriding reason for the offering of these Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow in incarnative states is the possibility of aiding other-selves by the lightening of the planetary consciousness distortions and the probability of offering catalyst to other-selves which will increase the harvest.

    There are two other reasons for choosing this service which have to do with the self.

    The Wanderer, if it remembers and dedicates itself to service, will polarize much more rapidly than is possible in the far more etiolated realms of higher density catalyst.

    The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity or members of a societal entity can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfect. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.

    Similarly:
    Quote:65.11 Questioner: This entire scenario for the next twenty years seems to be aimed at producing an increase in seeking and an increase in the awareness of the natural creation, but also a terrific amount of confusion. Was it the pre-incarnative objective of many of the Wanderers to attempt to reduce this confusion?

    Ra: I am Ra. It was the aim of Wanderers to serve the entities of this planet in whatever way was requested and it was also the aim of Wanderers that their vibratory patterns might lighten the planetary vibration as a whole, thus ameliorating the effects of planetary disharmony and palliating any results of this disharmony.

    Specific intentions such as aiding in a situation not yet manifest are not the aim of Wanderers. Light and love go where they are sought and needed, and their direction is not planned aforetimes.

    It seems as if lightening the planetary vibration is on equal level with offering the self in service, as being the primary purpose of wanderers.

    And now unto adepts:

    Quote:49.8 Questioner: Is it better, or shall I say, does it produce more useable results in meditation to leave the mind as blank as possible and let it run down, so to speak, or is it better to focus in meditation on some object or some thing for concentration?

    Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this work time.

    Each of the two types of meditation is useful for a particular reason. The passive meditation involving the clearing of the mind, the emptying of the mental jumble which is characteristic of mind complex activity among your peoples, is efficacious for those whose goal is to achieve an inner silence as a base from which to listen to the Creator. This is an useful and helpful tool and is by far the most generally useful type of meditation as opposed to contemplation or prayer.

    The type of meditation which may be called visualization has as its goal not that which is contained in the meditation itself. Visualization is the tool of the adept. Those who learn to hold visual images in mind are developing an inner concentrative power that can transcend boredom and discomfort. When this ability has become crystallized in an adept the adept may then do polarizing in consciousness without external action which can affect the planetary consciousness. This is the reason for the existence of the so-called White Magician. Only those wishing to pursue the conscious raising of planetary vibration will find visualization to be a particularly satisfying type of meditation.

    Contemplation or the consideration in a meditative state of an inspiring image or text is extremely useful also among your peoples, and the faculty of will called praying is also of a potentially helpful nature. Whether it is indeed an helpful activity depends quite totally upon the intentions and objects of the one who prays.

    That is a fairly strong emphasis on how important Ra feels it is for adepts to raise the planetary vibration.

    I will continue with a few more quotes on visualization which are quite interesting.

    Quote:50.7 Questioner: Thank you. How does the ability to hold visual images in mind allow the adept to do polarization in consciousness without external action?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is not a simple query, for the adept is one which will go beyond the green-ray which signals entry into harvestability. The adept will not simply be tapping into intelligent energy as a means of readiness for harvest but tapping into both intelligent energy and intelligent infinity for the purpose of transmuting planetary harvestability and consciousness.

    The means of this working lie within. The key is first, silence, and secondly, singleness of thought. Thusly a visualization which can be held steady to the inward eye for several of your minutes, as you measure time, will signal the adept’s increase in singleness of thought. This singleness of thought then can be used by the positive adept to work in group ritual visualizations for the raising of positive energy, by negative adepts for the increase in personal power.

    50.8 Questioner: Can you tell me what the adept, after being able to hold the image for several minutes, does to affect planetary consciousness or affect positive polarity?

    Ra: I am Ra. When the positive adept touches intelligent infinity from within, this is the most powerful of connections for it is the connection of the whole mind/body/spirit complex microcosm with the macrocosm. This connection enables the, shall we say, green-ray true color in time/space to manifest in your space/time. In green ray thoughts are beings. In your illusion this is normally not so.

    The adepts then become living channels for love and light and are able to channel this radiance directly into the planetary web of energy nexi. The ritual will always end by the grounding of this energy in praise and thanksgiving and the release of this energy into the planetary whole.

    First, does anyone know of any good traditions that include visualization? Tantric yoga probably has the largest and most complex system of visualization, most famously the Shri yantra. Anyone more familiar with this.

    Should we be doing visualization? Ra says it is not satisfying, probably true, but Ra seems to put a very high emphasis on raising the planetary vibration, which visualization apparently does.

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      Considerations of Love and Light, and adepthood
    Posted by: jivatman - 12-07-2010, 01:12 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

    While Ra's main message is Unity, close behind may be considerations of love and light, and the balance between them.

    I feel this should allow for a fairly productive discussion. I shall begin. with a quote.

    Quote:70.22 Questioner: I am sorry to ask such stupid questions, but I am trying to determine something about space/time, time/space, and this very difficult area of the mechanism of evolution. I think it is central to the understanding of our evolution. However, I am not sure of this and I may be wasting my time. Could Ra comment on whether I am wasting my time in this particular investigation or whether it would be fruitful?

    Ra: I am Ra. Since the concepts of space/time, or physics, and time/space, or metaphysics, are mechanical they are not central to the spiritual evolution of the mind/body/spirit complex. The study of love and light is far more productive in its motion towards unity in those entities pondering such concepts. However, this material is, shall we say, of some small interest and is harmless.

    Attempting a definition of love is difficult. It is here I shall begin:

    On 1.4 Ra does one simple definition:

    "We spoke to one who heard and understood and was in a position to decree the Law of One. However, the priests and peoples of that era quickly distorted our message, robbing it of the, shall we say, compassion with which unity is informed by its very nature. Since it contains all, it cannot abhor any."

    Let us consider Jesus as an example, because Ra says that Jesus was a 4th density wander of the highest sub-octave, and thus serves as an excellent example of love.

    He said the basic message of the commandments is to love god, and love others as self.

    He is responsible for the sermon on the mount which contains such phrases as "resist not evil" and "turn the other cheek".

    He, of course, did not resist evil. Ra tells us:

    Quote:84.4 Questioner: The instrument asked the following question: Ra has implied that the instrument is on the path of martyrdom, but since we all die are we not all martyred to something, and when, if ever, does martyrdom partake of wisdom?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is a thoughtful query. Let us use as exemplar the one known as Jehoshua. This entity incarnated with the plan of martyrdom. There is no wisdom in this plan but rather understanding and compassion extended to its fullest perfection. The one known as Jehoshua would have been less than fully understanding of its course had it chosen to follow its will at any space/time during its teachings. Several times, as you call this measure, this entity had the possibility of moving towards the martyr’s place which was, for that martyr, Jerusalem. Yet in meditation this entity stated, time and again, “It is not yet the hour.” The entity could also have, when the hour came, walked another path. Its incarnation would then have been prolonged but the path for which it incarnated somewhat confused. Thusly, one may observe the greatest amount of understanding, of which this entity was indeed capable, taking place as the entity in meditation felt and knew that the hour had come for that to be fulfilled which was its incarnation.

    It is indeed so that all mind/body/spirit complexes shall die to the third-density illusion; that is, that each yellow-ray physical-complex body shall cease to be viable. It is a misnomer to, for this reason alone, call each mind/body/spirit complex a martyr, for this term is reserved for those who lay down their lives for the service they may provide to others. We may encourage meditation upon the functions of the will.

    Thus, Jesus was consciously aware that he would be laying down his life. He certainly followed his own teachings to "Resist not evil", and "Turn the other cheek".

    But, Ra says that martyrdom does not contain wisdom, because a martyr, in dieing, then has no further opportunity to serve others.

    Indeed, most christian groups do not take the absolutist position and always "Turn the other cheek", and have a variety of qualifications.

    But Jesus, as being the fullest example of love, is teaching the basic lesson necessary for those of us in third density to qualify for 4th density.

    Note that in the Bhagavad gita, Bhakti, or love, is considered more basic than wisdom satya (truth). In the Islamic Sufi tradition of which Rumi is a part, love is the most basic element.

    As Ra says:

    Quote:42.5 Questioner: In the last session you made the statement that “We, that is Ra, spent much time/space in the fifth-density balancing the intense compassion that we had gained in the fourth-density.” Could you expand on this concept with respect to the material you just discussed?

    Ra: I am Ra. The fourth-density, as we have said, abounds in compassion. This compassion is folly when seen through the eyes of wisdom. It is the salvation of third-density but creates a mismatch in the ultimate balance of the entity.

    Thus we, as a social memory complex of fourth-density, had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other-selves. When the fifth-density harvest was achieved we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the efficacy of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time/space in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which imbue love with wisdom


    Fourth density is one where social-memory complexes are formed. In essence, everyone on a planet communicates telepathically so easily, that a planet acts as single unit.

    Fourth density positive itself is one of pure compassion. Fourth density negative is one of pure selfishness, where one will always attempt to manipulate others.

    Note that both lack wisdom. There are flaws in intensive love to the point of martyrdom, but there are also flaws in intense selfishness, just consider how many evil people have fallen because they became so greedy/selfish they thought they were invincible, and then get caught because of mistakes.

    Ra talks about the battle between 4d positive and negative:

    Quote:25.5 Questioner: You spoke of an Orion Confederation and of a battle being fought between the Confederation and the Orion Confederation. Is it possible to convey any concept of how this battle is fought?


    Ra: I am Ra. Picture, if you will, your mind. Picture it then in total unity with all other minds of your society. You are then single-minded and that which is a weak electrical charge in your physical illusion is now an enormously powerful machine whereby thoughts may be projected as things.
    In this endeavor the Orion group charges or attacks the Confederation armed with light. The result, a stand-off, as you would call it, both energies being somewhat depleted by this and needing to regroup; the negative depleted through failure to manipulate, the positive depleted through failure to accept that which is given.

    25.6 Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you mean by the “failure to accept that which is given?”

    Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded and engulfed, transformed by positive energies.

    This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.


    It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.

    So, when Jesus says to "Turn the other cheek" or "Resist not evil", this would be "purely positive", but "for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel"

    Ok, so we now understand the nature of love. Though the salvation of 3rd density, our density, and thus the essential message that the populace needs, ultimately there are flaws when not balanced with any wisdom, thus wanderers, adepts, and other advanced students will want to consider wisdom/light, as well.

    On 43.14 Ra says:
    Quote:fifth density entities may choose to learn as a social memory complex or as mind/body/spirit complexes and may graduate to sixth density under these conditions, for the wisdom density is an extremely free density whereas the lessons of compassion leading to wisdom necessarily have to do with other-selves.

    On 16.39 Ra says:
    Quote:The fifth density harvest is of those whose vibratory distortions consciously accept the honor/duty of the Law of One. This responsibility/honor is the foundation of this vibration.

    I generally refusal to comment on any issues other than civil liberties or the national security/warfare state. And of course Ra on 34.9 says
    Quote:There are some few whose desires to aid society are of a green ray nature or above. These entities, however, are few due to the understanding, may we say, of fourth ray that universal love freely given is more to be desired than principalities or even the rearrangement of peoples or political structures.

    3rd density is of course, based on social interactions, thus, the vast majority of people follow politics because they want to belong to a group. These groups do not have any real philosophy behind them other than the maintenance of power.

    However, Ra does mention a few political figures, most notably, Lincoln, was was asked about, was a 4th density walk-in. Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, names who Ra actually volunteered, were wanderers.

    The nature of Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin's work is not specifically mentioned. Rather, it is mentioned only in the larger context of wanderers of the time.

    Quote:26.12 Questioner: Then did the Confederation step up its program of helping planet Earth some time late in this last major cycle? It seems that they did from previous data, especially with the Industrial Revolution. Can you tell me the attitudes and the reasonings behind this? is there any reason other than they just wanted to produce more leisure time in the last, say, one hundred years of the cycle? Is this the total reason?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is not the total reason. Approximately two hundred of your years in the past, as you measure time, there began to be a significant amount of entities who by seniority were incarnating for learn/teaching purposes rather than for the lesser of the learn/teachings of those less aware of the process. This was our signal to enable communication to take place.

    The Wanderers which came among you began to make themselves felt at approximately this time, firstly offering ideas or thoughts containing the distortion of free will. This was the prerequisite for further Wanderers which had information of a more specific nature to offer. The thought must precede the action.

    It is obvious how their work concerns free will. They were, after all, liberals (though now would be called classical liberals).

    The term liberal, of course, stemming from liberty. Originally, liberals supported both personal and economic freedom.

    At this time, of course, The enlightenment was in full swing. The essence of the enlightenment is that, with wisdom alone, everything can be perfected. I divide it into three areas: 1: Man Himself with theories of knowledge and morality, 2: Man's personal freedom and political activities, 3: Man's economic activities.

    Figures such as Immanuel Kant wrote on #1, knowledge and morality with (In "Critique of Pure Reason", and "Metaphysics of Morals").

    Adam smith wrote on #1 and #2 in "Theory of Moral Sentiments" and of course, "The wealth of nations"

    Locke wrote mostly on #1 and #2, founding empiricism in"An essay concerning human understanding", and classical liberalism itself in "Two treatises on government", but he did write a bit on economics, mostly affirming the consensus at the time of the necessity of physical currency for any fair and workable system of national and international trade.

    Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were born at the height of the enlightenment. Their work was to put into practice many of the ideas which had been circulating.

    They both had an extremely wide variety of interests though Franklin was more scientific and literary, and Jefferson more law and philosophical, and influenced most of all, by Locke.

    Also interesting, both were deists, which is somewhat an approximation of LOO, far moreso than Christianity, at least.

    Ra says the message was about free will. Locke's theory was of course Natural Rights that are inalienable, which everyone is born with, life, liberty, and property.

    These, in essence, are simply affirmations of free will.

    The bill of rights were specific instantiations of respect of free will.

    Yes, Locke included property, and, free market economics were in fact, an absolutely essential part of enlightenment thought.

    Yes, RA does talk about money in one of the most interesting passage in the Ra material:

    Quote:22.5 Questioner: Can I assume then that this drastic drop in average life span from seven hundred years to less than one hundred years in length during this second 25,000 years was caused by an intensification of a lack of service to others?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is in part correct. By the end of the second cycle, the Law of Responsibility had begun to be effectuated by the increasing ability of entities to grasp those lessons which there are to be learned in this density. Thus, entities had discovered many ways to indicate a bellicose nature, not only as tribes or what you call nations but in personal relationships, each with the other, the concept of barter having given way to the concept of money; also, the concept of ownership having won ascendancy over the concept of nonownership on an individual or group basis.

    Each entity then was offered many more subtle ways of demonstrating either service toward others or service to self with the distortion of the manipulation of others. As each lesson was understood, those lessons of sharing, of giving, of receiving in free gratitude—each lesson could be rejected in practice.

    Without demonstrating the fruits of such learn/teaching the life span became greatly reduced, for the ways of honor/duty were not being accepted.

    That is, money is not evil in itself, but rather it's existence forced humans to make choices which were not necessary before it existed.

    With choice came responsibility. The responsibility to use money to serve others or self. As time passed, humans became more able to understand the concepts of STO/STS. Still, they did not choose, thus the lifespan decreased.

    Ra mentions the law of responsibility as well as honor/duty in several other places, and this is a bit difficult to understand, but I feel I may understand it.

    In essence, responsibility is the opposite side of the coin of liberty/free will.

    In order for freedom to persist, it must be used properly, for serving others. If not, the freedom turns negative.

    The enlightenment figures generally emphasized how important it was for people to be educated about their government, and most of all, to be moral.

    Benjamin Franklin focuses far more on personal morality such as in books such in poor Richard, while Jefferson of course focuses on liberty, but both recognized the intertwined nature.

    Of course, for example, the freedom to, say, have lower taxes and thus have more money and time, is inseparable from the concept of then using that time and money to serve others.

    And I would add, insofar as we do have taxes, they should be progressive, as Jefferson was one of the first to support.

    Thus, I feel, those who get elected merely promising, say, lower taxes are somewhat STS, exploiting selfishness because they do not include the concept of "your taxes are being lowered, you are thus being given more freedom, in order that you take responsibility to help make society better"

    But I digress..

    So, what is wisdom?
    1. The respect of free will of others.
    2. The acceptance of responsibility of every action one takes out of one's own free will.

    Yes, pure love also accepts free will. But pure love finds it extremely difficult to accept the free will of those doing actions which one knows are harmful to themselves. That is, they wish stop them. But sometimes one must let people persist and learn from their mistakes.

    Ra also says, in 48.6:
    Quote:There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with otherself.

    Wisdom is also greatly associated with truth and fidelity.

    1.Truth, because one must accept responsibility for their actions.
    2. Fidelity, because one must accept responsibility for their commitments.

    Promises and commitments, are in essence contractual in nature. Government is a contract, called the social contract, and idea formed by locke. One in which ideally, there would be no secrets. Enlightenment figures saw that espionage, assassination, and other forms of secret treachery, conducted by monarchies, as especially repugnant. Note the USA did not have an similar institution until the CIA in 1947. (probably in response to UFO issue, but which sadly is now far beyond that)

    Another form of contract are relationships. Marriage is a contract to be faithful with each other.

    Ra says that our logos is biased towards being with one partner at a time, so that one may enter a "program of service".

    Promiscuity is not necessarily STS, it does not violate free will if both people agree to is a one-night sand or open relationship, but the fidelity inherent in monogamy helps one learn wisdom.

    Note that Ra does called marriage "adversary relationships" though.

    I personally feel the problem with marriage is 1. People enter into because our laws make it a necessity. 2 People are generally not very religious anymore, and thus the sanctification element has also become meaningless, I mean, who gets an annulment anymore?

    Wisdom is also the ray of the co-creator. Why?

    Wisdom, or light, allows one to create that which has not existed before. during the enlightenment, huge amounts of new philosophy were created.



    But wisdom too, ultimately can be overbalanced.

    The philosophies of wisdom, when taken alone and to the extreme, can be just as absolutist as those martyrdom is with love.

    One instance, is in Kant's insistence on always and ever tell the truth, even to the point of a murder asking him directions to someone's house (assuming he was forced to say something).

    It seems quite absurd that one would not lie here. Sometimes one must keep secrets for a limited time.

    Sometimes one must lie, sometimes contracts must be broken, sometimes one falls more in love with another.

    To physically prevent another from committing suicide would violating free will.

    To be certain, it should always and everywhere be the absolute last resort, but sometimes violence, in self defense, is necessary,

    Therefore, ultimately, a balance of wisdom and love must be achieved.

    While only love is necessary for 4th density, To balance love and wisdom is the path of the adept.

    What is the balance of love and wisdom?

    What is faith? To act (love) but pay no regard to physical results of the action (wisdom).

    What is mystery? To know (wisdom) without knowing (love).

    What is power? When acting (love) to produce exactly the planned/desired effect (wisdom).

    What is magic? To act (love) without acting (wisdom). To create an effect without any visible action.

    What is free will? Your greatest gift (love). Your greatest responsibility (wisdom).

    These are all concepts of adepthood, the balance of love and wisdom.

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    Posted by: turtledude23 - 12-06-2010, 03:19 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (30)

    Is it possible in 3rd density for an adept, or someone on their way to becoming one, to be able to know someone else's thoughts, feelings, fears, desires, biases, etc. or is that only possible in 4th density? I think this would be a super useful skill for someone polarizing on either path.

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