Hi everyone,

As we know, something Ra and Q'uo are determined to do is maintain our free will by not giving us information that would alter our evolution in any way... The information given is always open to be interpreted in whatever way we chose to interpret it, because each individual must have the ability to make whatever choices they want for themselves. For example, although it would no doubt be easy for Q'uo to do, he/she/they would never give us the results of tomorrow's rugby match, because even something as non-relevant as that with regards to our evolution would have profound implications on how we move forward. (In a similar way that characters in sci-fi movies are oh so careful not to make any changes when they go back in time, less they significantly impact the present and future).

This is all and well, but I guess I just still don't quite understand. How can these entities give us ANY information at all, without violating our free will? I mean, the information is certainly, certainly welcome beyond all the means that I could express. I think the information has been crucial to the spiritual development of who knows how many people. But there's the paradox, we're changing the way we think and do things based on what's given. Even if it's a good thing, isn't it a violation of free will? Or are these entities not in violation because we have chosen to read the material, or made a request for it on an unconscious level? (hope I haven't just answered my own question there). If the Ra material suddenly came up in all the top newspapers in the world, would that then be the free will violation?

The other confusing part of the free will idea is how Q'uo sort of passes off the free will responsibility on to the reader. At the start of most sessions Q'uo asks that we use our judgment on what is said, so that they might speak more freely. We should hold on to what resonates, and discard what does not. What does this imply, exactly? Q'uo tells us what they know to be the truth, which we can probably assume is almost always accurate coming from their position compared to ours. If I read something that does not resonate, how can I know that it is not true, vs. something that I am simply not comfortable with? For example, there are a lot of things I see in the news that I am not comfortable with (and some times can hardly believe), yet I won't deny that they aren't happening or true. Am I perhaps thinking about this the wrong way?

Very interested to hear your thoughts. And I have to add that I'm simply overjoyed that we have this forum to chat these things up with!

Hello all,

I have been talking with my partner off and on about children recently. She is not a follower of the LOO. She does, however, radiate an amazing light of compassion and I am sure, with or without knowledge of it, she will be by my side for the transition.

So, she wants children while I am hesitant about it. There is little to no information about children and ascension. The children incarnating today with understandings of the 4D are not truly "ascending" as they already inhabit a 4D body.

As far as I understand some of the children who are incarnating now are not wanderers in the sense of a mission/work anymore. That phase is over with, now we are just riding it out and those incarnating currently are here for the harvest experience and Terra/Gaia will be their 4D home. They are simply the first through the door.

Now I don't think all children being born now are of this persuasion. I know that there is a seniority list as to who incarnates closer and closer to harvest day, and souls better able to use the energies as springboard into 4D have a better place in line.... but does that mean that all new entries are ready for harvest?

Certainly if the rate of animals moving forward is increasing then this cannot be true. As those souls will be entry level 3D not exit level as they are incarnating. There is a huge amount of material pertaining to harvest rights and methodology but in the end all remains cloaked in mystery.

LoO:
Questioner: Would the purpose in transitioning to Earth prior to the
complete changeover then be for the experience to be gained here before the
harvesting process?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. These entities are not Wanderers in the sense
that this planetary sphere is their fourth-density home planet. However, the
experience of this service is earned only by those harvested third-density
entities which have demonstrated a great deal of orientation towards serviceto-
others. It is a privilege to be allowed this early an incarnation as there is
much experiential catalyst in service to other-selves at this harvesting.

Questioner: There are many children now who have demonstrated the
ability to bend metal mentally which is a fourth-density phenomenon.
Would most of these children, then, be the type of entity of which we
speak?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Is the reason that they can do this and the fifth-density
Wanderers who are here cannot do it the fact that they have the fourthdensity
body in activation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Wanderers are third-density activated in
mind/body/spirit and are subject to the forgetting which can only be
penetrated with disciplined meditation and working.

Questioner: I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities
of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are
coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization
through their teachings. They are not infringing upon the first distortion
because they are children now and they won’t be old enough to really affect
any of the polarization until the transition is well advanced. However, the
Wanderers who have come here are older and have a greater ability to affect
the polarization. They must do their affecting as a function of their ability
to penetrate the forgetting process in order to be within the first distortion.
Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

In the final question it states "I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization through their teachings."

Ra states that this information is correct.... yet this was written nearly 30 years ago..... which means the children being born.. well.. when I was born cannot affect the polarization? Because they are too close to the end of the cycle?

This is obviously not correct as here I am, sharing and being of service. Does that mean my actions do not have the capability to polarize another entity? To help polarize humanity positively?

Unless it means they will not be old enough to be in positions of power by that time meaning the wanderers are people in their 40's onwards which also doesn't feel right to me...

I could see how that statement would be correct say... 6 years from harvest day but how it is correct nearly 30 years from that date I do not know.

LoO:
Questioner: Can you explain what you mean by a seniority by vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question of this session of working.
The seniority by vibration is the preferential treatment, shall we say, which
follows the ways of the Law of One which encourages harvestable
individuals, each individual becoming aware of the time of harvest and the
need on a self-level to bend mind/body/spirit towards the learn/teaching of
these lessons, by giving them priority in order that an entity may have the
best possible chance, shall we say, in succeeding in this attempt.

Here is very direct info about the seniority of vibration being a major sway in the incarnative process. So entities coming from elsewhere get to incarnate based on seniority, whereas entities from here are still chugging along as usual, even more so now that pets are such a major part of first world cultures.

That means the odds of your child being harvestable are up in the air? If a child is not harvestable then it would be filtered and placed somewhere else to continue 3D experience with the harvest being a powerful catalyst in the continuation of its seeking.

If one is not willing to leave their child in the transition does that mean they are choosing to stay? Being unattached to the 3D world and everything in it is integral in the forward movement. One must leave behind that which is no longer of the same vibration if one is to move forward. Like the separation of oil and water, the energies will no longer be cohesive.

I would imagine a strong earthly attachment would lead one to choose to remain, as in the end it is totally up to the individual soul whether it moves forward or not. One must become free of any binding energies in order to progress.....

Perhaps I will wait a few years before I seriously consider having kids... like 10. We will see what has happened at that point. As releasing them would be a difficult choice for me to make and I don't need to get caught in the wheel. I am pretty sure you can still "procreate" in 4D in one way or another, as there are multiple lifecycles in 4D existance.

Just some thoughts, if anyone has anything to add please feel free to do so

All,

I'd like to start a mini project in this thread. It will require the help of all of you, so those of you who are just visiting Bring4th to "lurk"... Get out your Law of One books!!! You've got some great opportunities ahead of you to be in service.

What I'd like to do is to start compiling topics that have been discussed, but not continued due to the complexity of the subject matter, or because additional elaboration would throw the direction of Don's questioning off.

For those who have read the series, there are numerous occasions where Ra had to excuse themselves from elaborating too deeply in order to keep focused on teaching the proper answer. I'd love for us to go digging for those small little nuggets that are pending further study!

Some ideas that we can look into involve the pyramids, crystal use, and the archetypes of the mind. These are just a couple of topics amongst myriad of others that we could dig up.

Once these are discovered and identified, we can certainly begin having interesting conversation about them, but we might also want to ask Carla how interested she would be in continuing lines of questioning that relate to the original texts.

Before we get started, how many of you think this is a good idea? I certainly don't want to get jazzed up about this if it's my own fantasy. lol

Thanks for your input, everyone!

Steve

Greetings all

I am relatively new to The Confedreation's message and would like some clarification on the following terms - which to be honest - still baffle me...

Firstly, the term "Intelligent Infinity"...

My best guesses at the moment are that this term either refers to the consciousness of our eternal-souls - or to the universal-consciousness,

Secondly, the term "Logos"...

I can think in terms of souls, planets and stars and atoms - but what exactly does the term "Logos" refer to...

But if someone has a clear understanding of these terms - I would be most grateful if somone could clarify them for me!

Thank you!

Jim Kent +

All, I've had a question about polarizing on my mind for a while, and while I think I might have a good grasp on the answer (after having meditated on it), I would still like to hear what you all think!

The question has to do with playing violent video games and the effects it has on polarization. By violent, I'm not just talking about the extreme end of games where an avatar yanks the spinal cord out of its defeated opponent. Rather, I'm talking about the kind of violence that trickles way down to Super Mario squashing an innocent mushroom head with the intention to dominate and subdue it for self-gain (coins! who doesn't want to dominate for coins? C'mon! hehe)

Anyway, my original confusion hovered around whether the artificial reality of video games really had an impact on one's polarization. Are we not simply pressing a joystick and moving pixels of color around a television screen? There's no soul to infringe upon, right? My actions won't affect anyone around me, since I am manipulating a disposable environment... Right??

But then I started thinking about the concept of "intention". I thought that perhaps the fact that I am intending to squash that evil-looking mushroom head is really a way for me to express a fraction of my shadow-side, while mistakingly thinking there's no repercussion. However, if I squash 200 mushroom heads and slowly become drunk and satisfied with my skills and power to dominate, or if I'm a war mongering soldier who is blowing up graphical buildings, nature, animals and any human-like figure that moves on my screen, what is that really doing to my polarization? Am I slowly conditioning myself to become more Service to Self (STS) as I gradually intend to dominate and destroy through the physical manifestation of a video game? Isn't it true that one becomes what he/she thinks?

It's an interesting topic to me, because I find this not only applies to video games, but to taking sides with the villain in a movie, laughing at the expense of someone else on a reality show, or taking to a song on the radio, not realizing that the lyrics are STS-oriented. At first glance it's all good because we're not directly affecting another soul. But since we're all one, I am affecting them because I am affecting myself! So if I play violent video games, then I'm putting that negative conditioning out into consensus reality for others to absorb, as well.

Right? I need some help on this one! Please chime in if you have any ideas. :-/

Thanks,
Steve

Hi everyone! Whenever I read of hear about being in service to others (STO), I often see a follow up rule of thumb that as long as an individual is over 51% STO, he or she would be eligible for harvesting:

Quote:17.31 Questioner: I don’t wish to take up extra time asking questions over again. Some areas I consider important enough in relation to the Law of One to ask questions in a different way in order to get another perspective in the answer.

In the book Oahspe it states that if an entity goes over fifty one percent service to others and is less than fifty percent service to self, then that entity is harvestable. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct if the harvesting is to be for the positive fourth dimensional level.