a while ago someone posted this video on how trees talk to each other and how they communicate. 



I then found this today http://humansarefree.com/2014/03/people-...other.html



And what stuck out at me was the chart on the website:

 

The article talks about how plants can siphon energy from each other. But in the video it shows they don't just siphon, they allocate and share the energy or food where it's needed most. 

Either way I think stuff like this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least for me personally that 2nd Density Life, plants not just animals, has awareness.

I don't know if this has been looked at before.
I noticed Carla predicted harvest to be in 2012 and it was assumed she got it wrong. I tend to disagree. There's a lot of wanderers and the like out there and all are making a big difference. You just have to notice how many are fighting for the planet and all that dwell here. Harvest doesn't have to go off in one big bang. It can and should take time. Did I read somewhere that it could take hundreds of years? Did she get it wrong? Was her time prediction just the start of the harvest and it is going on right now? I'd like to think so and I think she was spot on. Just got the process mixed up.

Another thing on 4D/3D . In the late 1970s I heard about an organization/group, that where working out how to deal with a time in the not to distant future when there would be people like there is now and allso others that are more advanced that knew what everyone was thinking and were capable of manifesting things. They were trying to work out protocols on how not to upset things. Sounds like 4D to me. If so can 4D live in 3D? Does/can 4D inhabit a 3D planet but at a different frequency ? If so would they be able to switch to 3D at will ? I haven't read all of Ra but I sure a lot of you have. I was wondering if anyone could tackle these queries for me ?

WanderingOZ

Would it just seem to the veiled entity that the pre-veil one was enlightened? Ra also said that the pre-veil experience was extremely pale and shallow in comparison to the rich and vivid experience of the veiled third density, so would the pre-veil entity even be spiritually intelligent enough to know what was going on?

This is so weird a concept, it must have been done somewhere in the creation. Also Ra stated that yes, many pre-veil third density civilizations traveled across planets before entrance into fourth density, so I wonder if that could have set up encounters with veiled planets.

Would the pre-veil entity even be able to use the veil as catalyst?? or would the whole notion of "pre-veil" be shattered once the PV entity lays eyes upon the Veil??

Quote:Ra:You may consider any possibility/probability complex as having an existence.

I know this is usually only a sexual transfer but I wonder if wanderer primary soul group members who have likely opened indigo Ray in other lives together could have it happen with a very loving open hearted hug.

I've had intelligent information given to me that is googlable to prove its accuracy that named and identified two primary soul group members I'm incarnated with here on earth.. One it was clearly shown is a exact match for me, and we have the same careers and met several years ago, and trusted each other immediately. I can private message  guide given details that were googlable if people need details but it isn't necessary.

Anyways this exact match may even be a parallel incarnation from what I was shown that or just my closest match..apparently "we always travel together, inseparable like Siamese Twins" were the words I was told by a "guide", so clearly we are super close.

Ok so the storey, one day I was emotionally activated by a client who was being nasty to me.
My soulgroup member was with me and was fully empathetic and wanted to show his love and support, and I love him so i was happy to hug him even just a hug goodbye. Despite the circumstances all I felt was love. He is a gift and we don't get time together often so no circumstances could dim the love shared.

Long story short when we put our heads side by side and hugged a Vortex of energy that over powered all senses opened around our heads. I can't say exactly how big around it was because suddenly there was nothing but bliss, like if you were happier than you've ever been, and laughing and swirling, in the vortex. It was like drunken blissed out, heaven  ..... I can't even describe it.

As soon as the vortex started, right till we parted we both were laughing uncontrollably because we were literally over-joyed, like the joy flowed through and out of us, and the sound was deafening but not in a bad way. In a saturating one with the vortex, there is nothing else kind of way. After who knows how long we parted and it was like when a magnet releases there was a snap, like pull, pull snap released.

At the time I had not heard of Law of One, I had prayed to experience source in some way a few weeks earlier, and when I was driving away all I could surmise is that was heaven, heaven always sounded boring how could anyone do anything for eternity but that vortex I can clearly say would be heaven and I'd happily stay there for eternity.

Sooooo sorry for the novel but in Law of One terms, could two extremely close soulmates have an indigo Ray transfer with an open hearted hug? perhaps especially since both being wanderers we have likely penitrated indigo Ray together before in other lives?

Ps it hasn't happened with other hugs, but he isn't generally "open hearted", he stared to awaken but chose to return to sleep though he's had very specific dream premonitions recently that came true.

I'm also quite sure we have energy transfer with hugs even if there is no indigo activation because I can be exhausted for weeks get a hug from him and I'm energized back to my old self, not just for the day but like a battery recharged.
Maybe after a few millennia together energy exchanges don't require sex?

I just studied Session 35, which contains a metaphysical biography of Abraham Lincoln by Ra.

Can someone who knows history of this period help me?

RA claims that in 1853 Lincoln was weary of war and conflict. He was NOT suicidal but he was weary of life. In a dream, a 4 D positive entity (probably from the Confederation) contacted him and agreed to WALK IN and live the rest of Lincoln's life for him. The entity previously known as Lincoln then went to an astral resting place, presumably where Carla goes during her trance channeling sessions.

My problem is the year 1853.

How could Lincoln possibly be laden down with grief and guilt over the massive death caused by the Civil War when the war did not start until 1861?

This does not make any 3 D chronological sense. I am sure there were pressures and great stress leading up to the actual outbreak of the Civil War. But how could Lincoln have been worn out by 1853 in response to an event that did not start until 1861?

Calling all Ra apologists! You are needed to make sense out of this seeming boo boo on Ra's part.

CAVEAT: against all logical advice, I am still focusing on the Scott Mandelker lectures on YOUTUBE to study each session. Perhaps Scott errored in attributing Lincoln's "weariness of life" to the war. Obviously, that is simply not possible unless Lincoln was a time traveler. From the movies we know he was a Vampire Killer. LOL

Thanks.

Hey folks, I greet you in the love and light of the infinite creator! I am in the process of going through the Ra material. Fascinating stuff, much of which resonates with my own awareness. I am very interested in RAs explanation of healing techniques, in particular the use of crystals. Does anyone know of a source that has compiled, or synthesized, RAs thoughts on healing in to one cohesive expression of practice?


love and light,
Anthony

UPDATE: After reading my post, perhaps most of my problems are with the SCOTT MANDELKER COMMENTS on YOUTUBE FOR SESSION 31 MORE THAN JUST Ra.

I would like to post my thoughts on the Ra Law of One Session 31, which talks a great deal about homosexuality. I am not asking anyone to approve of homosexuality. I am simply asking you to calmly reflect on my views as a gay man in response to what Ra and Scott Mandelker have said.

I am studying the Ra Law of One material, using the YOUTUBE series by Scott Mandelker. I have been taking diligent notes (which helps me learn a great deal and concentrate when the material otherwise might fly right over my head). Yesterday I studied Session 31. Frankly, I am very appalled and dismayed by what Ra and Scott have to say about homosexuality.

RA "blames" homosexuality (which he kindly calls a severe confusion) on two causes. I would like to discuss the cause I find most absurd.

CAUSE 1:

RA blames homosexuality on over crowding in large cities, siting studies of RATS that were kept in close quarters together in experiments. Evidently, the rats began having gay sex. The same thing happens in prisons. When I read this as Ra's cause for homosexuality, I burst out laughing. Then I thought "Wait a minute! I am investing serious time into studying the Ra material. Yet Ra has just proclaimed something that (as a gay man) I know is untrue. Does this invalidate everything Ra says?"

Comparing gay people to rats in crowded living conditions, then transferring rat activity to humans is bizarre. So the "big city" turns men gay? Aren't there any women in large cities? RA says that "sensitive" men (code word for gay?) that go to large cities come out? That may be true, but it is NOT the cause of homosexuality. Even our best medical authorities are not clear on the cause yet, although statistically, many gay men are born to mothers nearing menopause. The current meme in the medical field is that the chemical soup in the womb combined with environmental factors in the first 3 years produces gay men, not exposure to a large urban crowded center!

What about men in the military who live in crowded barracks? Do they "turn" gay? With all due respect to Ra, I think he needs to go back to the drawing board on this one. His views suspiciously mirror a layman's view of homosexuality back in the early 80's, NOT the perspective of a 6th Density entity complex.

RA later in the session outrageously claims that sensitive men who go to the big city are much more likely to become Service to Self when confused about gender identification (that would be a transsexual, not a homosexual). So Ra is suggesting that gay men are more likely to be negatively polarized. (If so, it is due to a bitterness that can set in after a life time of being put down by your own society).

What shocked me the most though was Scott's total acceptance of this bizarre theory. As I have gone through the YOUTUBE videos one by one, I have realized that Scott has almost a "born again" fundamentalist viewpoint of the Ra material. He seems to see it as a sacred book that must not be questioned. Because Ra agrees with his pre-existing Buddhist mystical faith in many areas (which he brings up constantly), Scott sees it as the eternal truth. This is very disappointing.

What is also disappointing is that Scott seems to have NO modern understanding of homosexuality, even though he claims to have gay friends. If so, then he has certainly sold them short on this one.
Scott agrees with Ra that ONLY female/male sex can involve a transfer of sexual/love energy involving the 4th chakra. Scott supplements this by saying that gay men cannot share this. Then Scott suggests that gay men can only share 4th chakra love via celibate friendships! In this area, Scott seems to mirror the Vatican's recent announcement that gay men are welcome now in Catholicism AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN CELIBATE! (What a deal, eh?). I have been in a monogamous relationship with another man for 39 years. There is true love there. If anyone has shared 4th chakra love, we have.

Scott repeatedly also makes the comment that gay men feel like women in men's bodies. In effect, that gay men ARE women inside. Dear Scott, please try to keep up. I realize you are living in Asia and may not get the news, but men who feel they are women are called Transgender = transexuals like Bruce Jenner. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. Most homosexual men are quite happy to be men. They simply are attracted sexually to other men. That's it!

Scott also uses his YOUTUBE video to give a lecture AGAINST gay people who feel the need to be "proud" of being gay, such as in gay pride parades. He condescendingly lectures gay people to NOT make their sexuality their identity. He says this is very shallow.

Where has his empathy gone?

Gay people only make an issue of their sexuality because the overall society does so. This all may be invisible to heterosexuals (who presume to lecture gay people on THEIR condition), but the gay person in the USA is constantly reminded (by the GOP, for example) that they are considered evil by the church, criminal by some police, and mentally ill by some psychologists. Gay people are told in many ways that they are WRONG to exist, and that they are inferior. In response to that unending barrage of negativity, gay people have bonded together to refute that programming. As a result, Gay Pride was created. With 50% of teenagers committing suicide due to being gay (official stats), certainly a little gay pride cannot hurt - it could even save lives. Nonetheless, Scott sees it as "very shallow behavior" with NO understanding of the motivation.  Very few gay people make being gay the center of their identity. But in this society, a gay person (like me) has to be wary every time I am in public due to the homophobic tendencies of the general public. I never know when someone is going to pop up and yell at me or even attack me. This is not paranoia. It is the general wariness with which gay people live in our society unless they are in total denial.


Scott says this is not a moral judgment. Oh, no! God Forbid. But then Scott proclaims that heterosexual sex is the only appropriate sex because "there is a plug and an outlet". Ha, ha. (His little snide joke). I can hear a right wing Christian applauding and saying "Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve!"

Scott finalizes his masterpiece of prejudice by at one point referring to the average gay man as a FAG! Can you imagine the outrage that would have arisen already if Scott had referred to a Black person by the "n" word? To the ears of a gay man, the word FAG is just as horrible in its demeaning intent.

Now to be fair to Scott, he does suggest that not all gay men come from large cities. Like me, many come from rural areas and small towns. This leads us to reason 2 per Ra for homosexuality.

CAUSE 2:

When an entity has a long series of female lives, then switches to a male life, there can be a lot of bleedthru, causing the man to be gay in his first male life (after such a long sequence of female lives).
Frankly, for all I know, this MAY BE TRUE. I AM FINE WITH THIS SUGGESTED CAUSE FROM A METAPHYSICAL VIEWPOINT. RA RULES ON THiS ONE! LOL


A Few more sore points:
1. Being gay is presented by Ra as something WRONG, rather than a variation on human sexuality. Per Ra, it is a blockage of red ray reproductive energy. It is a serious confusion. A massive Distortion.

2. Don towards the end asks Ra if the first sexual experience imprints on the sexual identity of the human? RA says yes. At this point, RA claims that homosexuality is a teenage aberration based on curiousity. RA says that if your first experience is bad, then you may have an aversion to sex your entire life. RA gives great power to sexual imprinting during the FIRST sexual experience. This supports the fallacious argument that the cure for impending homosexuality in a young teen is to ensure they go to bed with a woman instead, thereby imprinting in a "proper" manner. This also supports the Christian Gay Conversion Therapy (which includes electric shock treatment and brainwashing). Yet every modern medical practitioner knows that human sexual orientation is not this malleable. Again, RA sound suspiciously like a layman's idea of homosexuality in the early 1980's.

3. Don asks if Orion targets particular people. Of course, says the great and powerful Ra. RA mentions that Orion does this to push gay men to negative polarization. But to be fair, RA says that Orion does this with heterosexual people also. BUT!!! Orion only targets negatively leaning straight people. This remark subtly connects negativity with being gay. In other words, only gay people and NEGATIVE straight people are targeted. Misery loves company and guilt by association?

WRAP UP:

Frankly, I hope I can work past this. I have considered whether to even keep studying the Law of One after KNOWING IN MY HEART that Ra is wrong. Gay people are not rats in a maze being over crowded. Gay men are following their nature and have put up with enough crap from this society without the New Age metaphysical community dumping on them also.

Scott's remarks about gay people were arrogant and ignorant. I was shocked. If you listen to Scott's YOUTUBE series very long, you get the firm impression that Scott considers himself very high consciousness, far beyond the average human. He calls himself a 6th density Wanderer and has proclaimed that humans are stupid (in one case because humans do not accept Ra's views about sentient life on Venus!). Yet how near enlightenment can a man be who holds such nasty views on gay people? His views are condescending and spiteful.

EXPLANATIONS?

Here is a very blasphemous thought (at least to Scott). Could it be that Ra's views on homosexuality reflect Carla's perhaps ignorant 1980's viewpoints? She evidently had a close affinity to traditional (condemning) Christianity since a Bible and other symbols of that religion were part of the set up for her going into trance. Could Ra's information have been filtered through Carla to produce this nonsense?

The other possibility is that the entire Ra material is without any merit. Can anyone with an ounce of empathy respond, or am I the only gay person crazy enough to be interested in the Ra Law of One?  :@  :@

A thought I had was that through the channeling process, energies not available here on earth are transferred to us in 3rd density. Through this process, RA can transfer it's own distortions (aka problems) to those working behind the veil.

I mean, technically it'd be impossible to have this not occur.

Just a thought I had as it seems that exposure to the Law of One tends to produce 'interesting' experiences for those that enjoy it.

What do you think?

Simple question and i hope someone can help, but did Ra ever talk about the ratio of STS to STO entities ? DO more STO entities exist than STS or is it a very close ratio ?

any help would be appreciated, much thanks

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?random=1

here's the 1st result i got:

30.10 Questioner: Can you tell me the philosophy behind this mechanism of propagation of the bodily complex?

Ra: I am Ra. The second density is one in which the groundwork is being laid for third-density work. In this way it may be seen that the basic mechanisms of reproduction capitulate into a vast potential in third density for service to other-self and to self; this being not only by the functions of energy transfer but also [by] the various services performed due to the close contact of those who are, shall we say, magnetically attracted, one to the other; these entities thus having the opportunities for many types of service which would be unavailable to the independent entity.