Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group?

Apologies if this has been answered - I don't have the strength or will to search.

There was an interesting exchange where Don asked Ra if he could ask this question - Ra said he may.

And then it seemed Don got sidetracked in that exchange. I think it's when Ra first told them they were all Wanderers.

Obviously they were and probably the vast majority of people posting here or who read this forum.


Ra did say the majority of Wanderers on Earth were from their soul group.

Just searching for answers

TIA

When Ra refers to "density" what do you think that they mean?

Personally I think they mean "density of consciousness".  I think that a greater amount of "spiritual gravity" (which is synonymous with polarity) results in a higher concentration of awareness. It would seem to me that higher densities are NOT more dense with matter.  

In fact, it seems that the lower the density is, the more concentrated or dense the matter is, and the higher the density, the more concentrated the presence of mind or awareness (and the lighter the manifestation of matter).

What do YOU think?

Quote:13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the earliest, first known thing in the creation?

Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.

13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must have come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?

Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.

What does Ra mean here when he says that fifth density is an extremely free density?
Why are other densities not mentioned to be so free?

43.14 Questioner: Then the big difference in harvestability between third and fourth density is that at the end of the third density the individual is harvested as a function of individual violet ray, but in fourth density, is it the equivalent of violet-ray then for the entire social memory complex that must be of a harvestable nature to go to fifth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct although in fifth density entities may choose to learn as a social memory complex or as mind/body/spirit complexes and may graduate to sixth density under these conditions, for the wisdom density is an extremely free density whereas the lessons of compassion leading to wisdom necessarily have to do with other-selves.

Hello all! I found an interesting phenomenon in the category "psychic greeting". I assume this has been discussed previously. However, in curiosity I wonder what does "arranging opportunities" mean in this context? Did the negatives subtly organize certain entities together and predicted the outcome? Without deeply plunging into the specificity of what happened in Carla's life at that time, could you please share your view on what you think that means? Do you think there were telepathic influences from the negatives, and if there were, how do you think that affected the free will of the ones in the situation? Thank you.

Quote:25.1 Questioner: …asking first what cause or complex of causes has led to the instrument’s chest cold, as it is called?

Ra: I am Ra. This distortion towards illness was caused by the free will of the instrument in accepting a chemical substance which you call LSD. This was carefully planned by those entities which do not desire this instrument to remain viable. The substance has within it the facility of removing large stores of vital energy from the ingestor. The first hope of the Orion entity which arranged this opportunity was that this instrument would become less polarized towards what you call the positive. Due to conscious efforts upon the part of this instrument, using the substance as a programmer for service to others and for thankfulness, this instrument was spared this distortion and there was no result satisfactory to the Orion group.

Since we already have one good discussion going on regarding space/time vs time/space, this seems like a good time for me to throw out a (probably somewhat trivial) question I've been pondering for awhile.

At multiple points, Ra refers to both "probability/possibility" AND "possibility/probability" vortices, when he talks about the intricacies of trying to read the future.  He seems to favor "possibility/probability" by about 2:1, judging by search results, but still uses both versions.  He even occasionally uses both in the same sentence, such as "This is approximate due to the fact that parallel possibility/probability vortices cease when action occurs and new probability/possibility vortices are begun."  (11.3)  At another point, he uses them alternately in back-to-back answers, 36.2 and 36.3.

Which leads me to wonder:  Is there actually a difference, as there is with space/time vs time/space?  Or are the terms effectively interchangeable, with the slash merely representing overlapping definitions?

Personally, I really can't find that much which would suggest they have significantly different definitions.  But it seems unlike Ra to use terminology in a vague or unclear fashion, especially since his use of slashed words is generally more precise than that.  If there was only one definition, wouldn't he have picked one variation on the term and stuck with it?

Anyone got an opinion on this one?  

Quote:6.11 Questioner: How did they come here?

Ra: They came through the process of harvest and were incarnated through the processes of incarnation from your higher spheres within this density.

Quote:69.13 Questioner: You said the higher self is reluctant to enter negative space/time. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The incarnative process involves being incarnated from time/space to space/time. This is correct.

Quote:21.6 Questioner: I see. Then no incarnation occurred before this master 75,000-year cycle of Maldek entities. Correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct in the sense of incarnation in third-density time/space.

21.7 Questioner: Were there any of these entities then incarnated in second density before the 75,000-year cycle?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. These particular entities were incarnate in time/space third density, that is, the so-called inner planes, undergoing the process of healing and approaching realization of their action.

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69.11 Questioner: Can you tell me of the situation that the Wanderer finds itself in and why the path back cannot be the simple moving back into the same value of positive time/space?

Ra: I am Ra. The path back revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time①. This may be a significant part of the length of that path. Secondly, when a positively oriented entity incarnates in a thoroughly negative environment it must needs learn/teach the lessons of the love of self thus becoming one with its other-selves.

70.6 Questioner: In the last session Ra stated that “the path back from sixth-density negative time/space revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative time/space②.” Could you explain the higher self’s position with respect to positive and negative time/space and why it is so reluctant to enter negative time/space③ that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?

Ra: I am Ra. In brief, you have answered your own query. Please question further for more precise information.

70.7 Questioner: Why is the higher self reluctant to enter negative time/space④?

Ra: I am Ra. The Higher Self is reluctant to allow its mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space⑤ for the same basic reason an entity of your societal complex would be reluctant to enter a prison.

70.14 Questioner: Oh yes. Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Now, if a positive entity is displaced to negative time/space I understand that the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space⑥. And for some reason this makes it necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time. Why is it necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, let us remove the concept of reluctance from the equation and then secondly, address your query more to the point. Each time/space is an analog of a particular sort or vibration of space/time. When a negative time/space is entered by an entity the next experience will be that of the appropriate space/time. This is normally done by the form-making body of a mind/body/spirit complex which places the entity in the proper time/space for incarnation.

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In this particular case the answer we are looking for comes from logic and previous information on time/space and space/time from Ra. We know from Ra’s previous comments that in every density entities incarnate from time/space into space/time. We also have numerous instances in Sessions #68 and #69 where Ra correctly states this information in regards to displacement into negative time/space for a positive entity.

Ra occasionally would make errors due either to Carla’s low vital energy or to pain flares in her body. Ra did this a couple of times in Session #70 and Don was drawn into making mistakes in his questions regarding the time/space and space/time situation. So we need to go with logic here and what we know from previous comments from Ra about the time/space and space/time situation.

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70.6 Questioner: In the last session Ra stated that “the path back from sixth-density negative time/space revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time②.” Could you explain the higher self’s position with respect to positive and negative time/space and why it is so reluctant to enter negative space/time③ that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?

Ra: I am Ra. In brief, you have answered your own query. Please question further for more precise information.

70.7 Questioner: Why is the higher self reluctant to enter negative space/time④?

Ra: I am Ra. The Higher Self is reluctant to allow its mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative space/time⑤ for the same basic reason an entity of your societal complex would be reluctant to enter a prison.

70.14 Questioner: Oh yes. Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Now, if a positive entity is displaced to negative time/space I understand that the higher self is reluctant to enter the negative time/space⑥. And for some reason this makes it necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time. Why is it necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time?

• why it is so reluctant to enter negative time/space that it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back?
  

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In 70.6, in my interpretation, there may be just one mistake in Don's second mention of time/space. The cause for this mistake, as I mentioned, is that Don misused Ra's first part of answer ("the path back revolves, firstly, about the higher self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time" where he intentionally replaced space/time with time/space) in 69.11 to explain why "the displaced mind/body/spirit cannot be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet". Thus, although Don made a mistake in understanding, he did not misspeak the word here. Accordingly, the question in 70.7 may be dealing with time/space rather than space/time. 

I infer that, when the question was being asked in 70.14/17, the reasoning in Don's mind is that: (1) entering negative time/space is like entering a prison =(thus)=>  (2) the higher self is reluctant for its own mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space, which Don said he understood in 70.14 =(thus)=> (3) there are still some reason in between, which Don still had not understood =(thus)=> (4) the positive wander cannot be extracted from negative time/space to the home planet  =(thus)=> (5) it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back.

Then from Ra's view, since time/space is no more homogenous than space/time, it is understandable that the displaced positive spirit cannot be extracted from the negative time/space to its home planet. Thus, the reasoning of Ra in 70.6/7 may simply be that: (a) entering negative time/space is like entering a prison =(thus)=> (b) the higher self is reluctant for the displaced mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space, although the higher self is also reluctant (to a less extent) for the displaced mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative space/time  =(thus; no need for (3)(4) in Don's reasoning)=> © it is necessary for the mind/body/spirit complex to incarnate in negative space/time to find its path back. Consequently, Don's question (why it is necessary for this incarnation in negative space/time) in 70.14 is "perplex" for Ra when Ra had not perceived the basic miscalculation of Don until Ra did in 70.17. 

Note: Don may also have made one another mistake; that is, Don thought it is for the higher self's own mind/body/spirit complex that the higher self is reluctance to enter negative time/space. However, Ra meant that it is for the displaced mind/body/spirit complex that the higher self is reluctance to enter negative time/space.

Thank you all very much for your energy, patience and tolerance of my poor writing in English. I appreciate the opportunity to start this discussion with you.

Quote:21.7 Questioner: Were there any of these entities then incarnated in second density before the 75,000-year cycle?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. These particular entities were incarnate in time/space third density, that is, the so-called inner planes, undergoing the process of healing and approaching realization of their action.

Quote:In the project with the new Ra Contact book, procedure will be to not change any of Ra's words directly, even in instances where they make corrections themselves. At most, footnotes will be added where mistakes and confusions are seen, just like on http://www.lawofone.info

I have found many times in the Ra Material instances when Ra withhold info. I will list them here as I re-read. And I do not mean the occasions when intermediate material is required or knowledge they themselves do not plumb. I mean the ones withheld for obscure reasons. I find these particularly intriguing, trying to guess what's going on with them, and it would be great if we were to discuss them here. The first one from session 16:

Questioner: Well, roughly how many total planets in this galaxy of stars that we’re in have aware life regardless of density?

Ra: I am Ra. Approximately six seven, oh oh oh, oh oh oh [67,000,000].

Questioner: Can you tell me what percentage of those are third, fourth, fifth, sixth density, etc.? Roughly, very roughly.

Ra: I am Ra. A percentage seventeen for first density, a percentage twenty for second density, a percentage twenty-seven for third density, a percentage sixteen for fourth density, a percentage six for fifth density. The other information must be withheld. The free will of your future is not making this available. We shall speak on one item. There is a fairly large percentage, approximately thirty-five percent of the intelligent planets, which do not fit in the percentiles. These mysteries are of sixth and seventh density and are not available for our speaking.

I'd love to make a start on this one, but I'm pretty much clueless. A good start would be to figure out what "intelligent planets" means, and then what "do not fit the percentiles" could be all about. And 35% of what exactly are we talking about again? Also I thought I had an idea what the "free will of your future" may refer to, but then Don was obviously asking about current percentages, which is what the given figures apply to, obviously, ignoring the deeper truth of the illusory nature of time. So no idea on that one either. Also notice that Don was asking about "aware life", which then he further specifies in his second question an understood by him to be 3rd D on, yet the reply includes 1-2nd. And is Ra's "intelligent" planets" then synonymous with Don's "aware life", even though they ignored that bit initially, or is that supposed to be some different categorization? And finally, what could be the mysteries of 6-7th D? Apart from that we do know about them from materials already channeled. Up for the guessing!

Whoa, not sure when Tobey dropped this, but within each question/answer you can now listen directly to the audio of the Ra contact!  There's a little "play" triangle next to each q/a pair.  I haven't heard most of this and it sheds some light on how much patience one must have had to communicate with those of Ra.