Bring4th Forums
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:
  • Archive Home
  • Members
  • Team
  • Help
  • More
    • About Us
    • Library
    • L/L Research Store
User Links
  • Login Register
    Login
    Username:
    Password:

    Menu Home Today At a Glance Members CSC & Team Help
    Also visit... About Us Library Blog L/L Research Store Adept Biorhythms

    As of Friday, August 5th, 2022, the Bring4th forums on this page have been converted to a permanent read-only archive. If you would like to continue your journey with Bring4th, the new forums are now at https://discourse.bring4th.org.

    You are invited to enjoy many years worth of forum messages brought forth by our community of seekers. The site search feature remains available to discover topics of interest. (July 22, 2022) x

    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density A possible future dark night of the soul?

    Thread: A possible future dark night of the soul?


    Cannon (Offline)

    Member
    Posts: 153
    Threads: 16
    Joined: Oct 2016
    #1
    04-05-2017, 03:36 PM (This post was last modified: 04-05-2017, 05:09 PM by Cannon.)
    What happens to the saint (edit: a 'saint' being a person who is completely polarized in service to others) who lives to serve the other, when he or she discovers through the Law of One that there are no others?

      •
    sjel Away

    Account Closed
    Posts: 794
    Threads: 138
    Joined: Jun 2016
    #2
    04-05-2017, 03:41 PM
    I think you are talking about the ego rather than the deep Self. There is no other deep Self, that is true, but the deep Self is infinitely fulfilling. There is no loneliness in the deep Self. There is only loneliness when stuck in the ego.
    [+] The following 4 members thanked thanked sjel for this post:4 members thanked sjel for this post
      • Cannon, anagogy, sunnysideup, kevn
    Cannon (Offline)

    Member
    Posts: 153
    Threads: 16
    Joined: Oct 2016
    #3
    04-05-2017, 03:43 PM
    Thank you, I hadn't considered that.

      •
    Aki "Hkelukka" Greus (Offline)

    Member
    Posts: 50
    Threads: 18
    Joined: Sep 2016
    #4
    04-05-2017, 04:31 PM
    (04-05-2017, 03:36 PM)Cannon Wrote: What happens to the saint who lives to serve the other when he or she discovers through the Law of One that there are no others?

    You take another breath

      •
    Bearly (Offline)

    Newbie
    Posts: 8
    Threads: 0
    Joined: Jun 2016
    #5
    04-05-2017, 04:36 PM
    As I have grasped it, there are individualized portions from the ONE, the service being done from one portion to another.
    Service cannot be given if it is not requested first (speaking about STO not STS), for it depends on the true desire of the one being served.

    So the "saint" at realizing there is no separation, also understands that when his service is not needed he can rest with the creation in a balanced manner or can choose to return to the creator by graduating all the octaves.

    I don't really know though what your concept of a 'saint' is. If you mean someone polarized completely to STO or someone who has achieved enough mastery in order to mantain an unobstructed flux of the one through himself and perform "miracles". (e.g. Jesus, Buddha, etc.)
    [+] The following 1 member thanked thanked Bearly for this post:1 member thanked Bearly for this post
      • kevn
    Cannon (Offline)

    Member
    Posts: 153
    Threads: 16
    Joined: Oct 2016
    #6
    04-05-2017, 05:06 PM
    (04-05-2017, 04:36 PM)Bearly Wrote: I don't really know though what your concept of a 'saint' is. If you mean someone polarized completely to STO or someone who has achieved enough mastery in order to mantain an unobstructed flux of the one through himself and perform "miracles". (e.g. Jesus, Buddha, etc.)

    I apologize for being so imprecise. I meant the former.

      •
    Coordinate_Apotheosis (Offline)

    Account Closed
    Posts: 1,376
    Threads: 55
    Joined: Jan 2017
    #7
    04-05-2017, 05:43 PM
    (04-05-2017, 03:36 PM)Cannon Wrote: What happens to the saint (edit: a 'saint' being a person who is completely polarized in service to others) who lives to serve the other, when he or she discovers through the Law of One that there are no others?

    If I might be of aid...  I'd like to paraphrase.

    What happens to a person who lives to serve others, when s/he discovers through experience through the Law of One that there are no others?

    They'd probably have an ever easier time being of service considering that the joy they recieve from helping another is the same if they'd have helped themselves only twofold.  Greater than the sum of, you could say.

    They'd also probably be met with greater catalyst, and ultimately would be driven back to an egoic central consciousness like a rubber band.  What goes up must come down, what moves away ultimately comes back.  Source to source.

    Or nothing at all would happen, they'd just faithfully continue about the life they find themselves in.

    Or, they begin to discover themselves in others, and begin to 'learn thyself' through discovering parts of thyself in others.

    Who knows, we're all pretty unique lol
    [+] The following 1 member thanked thanked Coordinate_Apotheosis for this post:1 member thanked Coordinate_Apotheosis for this post
      • Bearly
    Agua del Cielo Away

    Account Closed
    Posts: 379
    Threads: 20
    Joined: Dec 2016
    #8
    04-05-2017, 07:19 PM
    I'd also guess someone who is polarized 100% positive has not only read about oneness but probably experienced it.
    I experienced oneness long before i discovered the Law of One (oneness is actually the Law of One, i meant the Ra material here) and i am not completely at 100% yet Wink

    I dont even know if i am close to 50 percent...or 40...
    [+] The following 3 members thanked thanked Agua del Cielo for this post:3 members thanked Agua del Cielo for this post
      • Glow, kevn, Bearly
    AnthroHeart (Offline)

    Anthro at Heart
    Posts: 19,119
    Threads: 1,298
    Joined: Jan 2010
    #9
    04-05-2017, 10:20 PM
    There's a difference between knowing there is only One, and understanding the One.
    [+] The following 2 members thanked thanked AnthroHeart for this post:2 members thanked AnthroHeart for this post
      • Agua del Cielo, Bearly
    Bearly (Offline)

    Newbie
    Posts: 8
    Threads: 0
    Joined: Jun 2016
    #10
    04-06-2017, 01:04 AM
    (04-05-2017, 10:20 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: There's a difference between knowing there is only One, and understanding the One.

    Well, yes. That is usually what separates awakened/enlightened individuals from the ones still sleeping.

    Intellectual knowing can cause much confusion and most probably will take you in circles for a long time.

    The real knowing/understanding can only be gained not told or given.

    So, yes. Indeed there is a difference.
    [+] The following 3 members thanked thanked Bearly for this post:3 members thanked Bearly for this post
      • Agua del Cielo, kevn, Nau7ik
    Nau7ik (Offline)

    Seeker of Truth
    Posts: 1,168
    Threads: 42
    Joined: Jan 2016
    #11
    04-09-2017, 08:49 AM (This post was last modified: 04-09-2017, 08:54 AM by Nau7ik.)
    The saint realizes that the "other" is the Creator, as are all others and the self. The saint seeks to match his will with the Creator's will. He serves with a full and open heart as the winds of spirit call him to his best and highest service. The mystery deepens across the densities.

    As was said above, there's the intellectual understanding that all is one. Then there is gnosis, direct apprehension of the unity of Creation. You "KNOW" all is one. That's at the level of higher self.

    That's how I see it.

      •
    « Next Oldest | Next Newest »

    Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)



    • View a Printable Version
    • Subscribe to this thread

    © Template Design by D&D - Powered by MyBB

    Connect with L/L Research on Social Media

    Linear Mode
    Threaded Mode