Finding Yourself

[Aion]

If you may so enlighten me, what else is the enjoyment of the negative path? And I'm not being sarcastic, I really do want to know. Maybe it's something that I'm sensing that I can't put into words.

Power, self-control, dominance in life. The negative path isn't about pleasing the self, it's about perfecting the self, it's about rising to the top. It's about becoming the Creator exclusively, without others. In that, the negative enjoys much wisdom, cleverness and influence.

And that's exactly the kind of thing that I'm drawn to. I think that society views those kinds of things as taboo to want to pursue, or at least to admit that you want to pursue. But maybe that's because this planet is gearing towards 4D positive, if anything. Or else be destroyed and society becomes mothmen.

I believe there are positive manifestations of these attributes, but indeed are much longer coming and less likely to be desired following the positive path. In positive there is competition but not to the extent of dominance and control.

How is there competition on the positive path? I can see it on a distorted positive path. Maybe that's what you're referring to.

Not all competition is a matter of one or the other striving for dominance but can be a mutually agreed testing of abilities. Say two people are runners and they want to test their abilities. They have a race, one wins, one loses, but they remain friends and both continue on as runners. Thus, there is a difference between living through competition to dominate and engaging in competition for mutual empowerment. In negative, competition is always for the empowerment of one. In positive, it is for both or many.

[Lighthead]

Power, self-control, dominance in life. The negative path isn't about pleasing the self, it's about perfecting the self, it's about rising to the top. It's about becoming the Creator exclusively, without others. In that, the negative enjoys much wisdom, cleverness and influence.

And that's exactly the kind of thing that I'm drawn to. I think that society views those kinds of things as taboo to want to pursue, or at least to admit that you want to pursue. But maybe that's because this planet is gearing towards 4D positive, if anything. Or else be destroyed and society becomes mothmen.

I believe there are positive manifestations of these attributes, but indeed are much longer coming and less likely to be desired following the positive path. In positive there is competition but not to the extent of dominance and control.

How is there competition on the positive path? I can see it on a distorted positive path. Maybe that's what you're referring to.

Not all competition is a matter of one or the other striving for dominance but can be a mutually agreed testing of abilities. Say two people are runners and they want to test their abilities. They have a race, one wins, one loses, but they remain friends and both continue on as runners. Thus, there is a difference between living through competition to dominate and engaging in competition for mutual empowerment. In negative, competition is always for the empowerment of one. In positive, it is for both or many.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes, that is very true.

[Lighthead]

I actually think that making my intent clearly known to everyone here on this forum is an initiation of sorts. A doorway. The possibilities are open wide now.

[Aion]

I actually think that making my intent clearly known to everyone here on this forum is an initiation of sorts. A doorway. The possibilities are open wide now.

You have been able to admit to yourself your true feelings.

[Plenum]

Have you found yourself?

Do you know who you really are?

identity is one of those very key and cornerstone type questions.  Before I found out that I was a Wanderer, I searched endlessly for my identity.  I did personality profiles - INTJ - it explained some personality aspects very well, but was it complete?  it didn't feel so.  I explored some basic elements of astrology - I'm a double Capricorn (Sun sign and Ascendent both capricorn) - and that explained some things, but was it enough?  it didn't feel so.

The reason why the quest for identity is so key is that once you know who are you, you should have a very good idea about what you should be doing.   Think of it in professional terms.  A blacksmith is trained to do a certain thing, and do it well.  A lawyer is trained to do a certain thing, and also to do it well.  Who you are gives a very important clue as to what you should be doing.  You don't want to be in the situation of being a blacksmith thinking you are a lawyer; and vice-versa.

When I first came across the definition and explanation of a Wanderer, it shook me to the core.  I cried for about 5 minutes, in a corner of my room.  This was during the day, and fortunately no one was home, otherwise they might have been very curious as to what had moved me so.  I don't think I've had such an intense upwelling of emotion, for such an extended period of time.  It was the joy of recognition of my Identity, and the tears were just an outpouring and release of the pain and frustration and struggle for so many years of vain pursuit previously.

From that moment, I've never doubted that I am a 6th Density Wanderer, as Ra describes it.  It's not something I look for evidence for, not something I need to convince others of.  It was a moment of recognition, as clear as seeing the five fingers on my left hand, and the five fingers of my right hand.  There is no personal doubt, no personal uncertainty.  I just know it to be the case; after pursuing questions of Identity for the 10 years before that moment.

How does knowing who am I am affect what I do?  Well, for me, the Wanderer is here to serve in whatever way possible.  They also have an obligation unto themselves to make themselves as clear as a channel as possible for the spirit complex to reveal itself in whatever ways seem fit.  The spirit complex is what distiguishes Wanderers from native 3d'ers.  We both experience the same body complex - there are no inherent different abilities.  We both experience the same mind complex - there are no inherent powers to being a Wanderer in a 3d mind complex.  But the spirit complex enables the brighter, more focussed, and more dense light of their soul to aid the situation on this planet.

Therefore, to me, it's incumbent for a Wanderer to work on their blockages so that this spirit complex may shed it's unique light on this planet.  And working on personal blockages is a tough task!  The lower triad is something that is filled with the pain and difficulties of every experience from our childhood that was non-loving.  Things that happened to us which were non-loving (which are truly in abundance in the school system of ours, plus dealing with difficult family members, if you had them), and choices that we made ourselves which were non-loving in response to other's lack of love towards us.  We may have chosen to withdrawal, develop attitudes of superiority, or just make a choice to withdrawal from certain types of interaction altogether.  All non-loving responses of a younger mind, just trying to survive as best it knew how at the time.

Once you know who you are; you know what you need to do.

It's one of the most important questions we can ever ask of ourselves.  Who the heck am I?

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Addendum: going beyond the Wanderer identification is the identification with the Creator.  That is the ultimate answer to the 'Who am I?' question.  The book I Am That is an example of someone who knows they are the Creator.  Many people think they are the Creator, and it is a truth that Ra also expresses.  But if someone really is the Creator, they would dwell in a place of unshakeable joy and certainty; no catalyst could rock them, because all catalyst has been usefully analyzed as a matter of experience, and the nourishing juice extracted from it.  They would also speak with the constant Intelligence of the One Source, as the individual in that book amply demonstrates.

also: trying to answer the question of 'Who am I?' is also why so many people seek the assistance of past-life regressionists.

[Enyiah]

Tan.rar :
Power, self-control, dominance in life. The negative path isn't about pleasing the self, it's about perfecting the self, it's about rising to the top. It's about becoming the Creator exclusively, without others. In that, the negative enjoys much wisdom, cleverness and influence.

At the expense of others – the element through which it qualifies as the «negative» path.

Lighthead :
How is there competition on the positive path? I can see it on a distorted positive path. Maybe that's what you're referring to.

Tan.rar :
In negative, competition is always for the empowerment of one. In positive, it is for both or many.

My understanding is :
«negative» ''completion is achieved at the others expense. «positive» completion is arrived at one's own personal expense which benefits  ALL.
 
What I personally misunderstand is how the «negative» path equally benefits ALL... in the whole picture.  I resist the explanation that it is ''called'' for and desired.  It is not logical that anyone ''desires'' the consequences of negative behaviour.

The experience of the ''negative'' path is a tool for learning, that is the only validity I can ascribe to it, it's sole purpose in the bigger picture.

[Lighthead]

Tan.rar :
Power, self-control, dominance in life. The negative path isn't about pleasing the self, it's about perfecting the self, it's about rising to the top. It's about becoming the Creator exclusively, without others. In that, the negative enjoys much wisdom, cleverness and influence.

At the expense of others – the element through which it qualifies as the «negative» path.

Lighthead :
How is there competition on the positive path? I can see it on a distorted positive path. Maybe that's what you're referring to.

Tan.rar :
In negative, competition is always for the empowerment of one. In positive, it is for both or many.

My understanding is :
«negative» ''completion is achieved at the others expense. «positive» completion is arrived at one's own personal expense which benefits  ALL.
 
What I personally misunderstand is how the «negative» path equally benefits ALL... in the whole picture.  I resist the explanation that it is ''called'' for and desired.  It is not logical that anyone ''desires'' the consequences of negative behaviour.

The experience of the ''negative'' path is a tool for learning, that is the only validity I can ascribe to it, it's sole purpose in the bigger picture.

I'm still just an "aspirant" as Tan.rar mentioned, but let me see if I can unpack this for you. Somebody on the negative path doesn't necessarily not help others. If that person has to help you to reach their goal, then there is almost no doubt that they would. For example, let's say that it is the negative entity's purpose to perfect its own wisdom. If sharing their own wisdom with others helps them achieve this goal, then there is a greater than average chance that the negative entity would do this. The only difference is the intent. The entity on the negative path doesn't delude themselves into thinking that their end goal is to help others more than they want to help themselves. I'm not saying that all on the positive path do this, but I would say that the ones that deny themselves the reality that they have a preference for the negative path most probably do.

As far as the purpose of the negative path in the bigger picture, this whole reality of this octave benefits from there being a negative path. If it weren't for the negative path, 3D would be dull and practically lifeless. There would be almost no motivation for 3D entities to advance further. There would be almost no motivation to progress, make the choice and go beyond that.

[Enyiah]

Lighthead :

The entity on the negative path doesn't delude themselves into thinking that their end goal is to help others more than they want to help themselves.
I'm not saying that all on the positive path do this, but I would say that the ones that deny themselves the reality that they have a preference for the negative path most probably do.

I made my choice a long time ago of choosing the positive path which to me is the natural extension of ''who'' I am.  I feel I have come full circle within much experimentation of lifetimes in 3D. I have no clue what my purpose was/is this time around but I feel I am about to find out.

Lighthead:
As far as the purpose of the negative path in the bigger picture, this whole reality of this octave benefits from there being a negative path. If it weren't for the negative path, 3D would be dull and practically lifeless. There would be almost no motivation for 3D entities to advance further. There would be almost no motivation to progress, make the choice and go beyond that.

I must come from another world/dimension because my inclination is to disagree with the bolded statement. In a sense, you might be right, but I dream of another reality where there is Great Wisdom and Understanding in my Reality. I dream of a reality with infinite possibilities within Creation itself. It is within this concept of Reality that I wish to progress and I often feel that the «negatives» are holding this reality back. In a sense they are trying to prevent/delay its fulfillment.

I am ready for the Harvest and even to move back to my Origin if I am called.  I am not comfortable in the 3rd Dimension and often wonder why I chose to come into it.

I've always «known» that I came here to evolve.  So there's an answer to start.


Namaste

[Lighthead]

Lighthead :

The entity on the negative path doesn't delude themselves into thinking that their end goal is to help others more than they want to help themselves.
I'm not saying that all on the positive path do this, but I would say that the ones that deny themselves the reality that they have a preference for the negative path most probably do.

I made my choice a long time ago of choosing the positive path which to me is the natural extension of ''who'' I am.  I feel I have come full circle within much experimentation of lifetimes in 3D. I have no clue what my purpose was/is this time around but I feel I am about to find out.

Lighthead:
As far as the purpose of the negative path in the bigger picture, this whole reality of this octave benefits from there being a negative path. If it weren't for the negative path, 3D would be dull and practically lifeless. There would be almost no motivation for 3D entities to advance further. There would be almost no motivation to progress, make the choice and go beyond that.

I must come from another world/dimension because my inclination is to disagree with the bolded statement. In a sense, you might be right, but I dream of another reality where there is Great Wisdom and Understanding in my Reality. I dream of a reality with infinite possibilities within Creation itself. It is within this concept of Reality that I wish to progress and I often feel that the «negatives» are holding this reality back. In a sense they are trying to prevent/delay its fulfillment.

I am ready for the Harvest and even to move back to my Origin if I am called.  I am not comfortable in the 3rd Dimension and often wonder why I chose to come into it.

I've always «known» that I came here to evolve.  So there's an answer to start.


Namaste

It seems that your knowledge and wisdom of the way things work is incomplete. I recommend looking deeper within yourself as well as further contemplation of the negative path. Just know that there is nothing that can hold back progress. Progress happens regardless.