Are dolphins and whales third density?

[Minyatur]

From what is said, it seems like the choice of the bipedal monkey predates even the formation of our 1D. So I highly doubt Yahweh had any play in any of it.

I don't see these as being necessarily contradictory.  You don't create the flowers, but you arrange them per your garden design.  And you may breed some plants for various characteristics.  The Yahweh group, so they say, chose to "help" the process along by doing what they did while Logos provided the raw materials.  Does that make sense?

I do see a contradiction between these two:

"Q: Logos seemed to be in favor of the bipedal monkey [physical body]" -> "A: The one infinite Creator, my brother, was not responsible for choosing the bipedal monkey, or great ape, over any other species. Rather, it was the social memory complex known as Yahweh who felt that this form would be a very efficient one for exploring the question of polarity."

versus

"Ra: I am Ra. The choice of form is prior to the formation of the archetypical mind. As the Logos creates Its plan for evolution, then the chosen form is invested.

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We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest."


So to me saying that the Logos had no choosing is in contradiction with saying that it was indeed the choice of the Logos and predates long before the storyline with Yahweh and their involvement in genetic modifications. The line of questioning seem to hint it predates even the formation of our 1D and so much more before there were even any ape to genetically modify.

Even when Ra  describes the experience of 4D, they say: "it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life", so to me that says that even our 4D is planned to be as such. In another session they do say that Universe-wide there are other forms that are invested for both 3D and 4D, so this hints to me that although the question was general regarding the conditions of 4D, they have answered about our local experience of it as part of our Logos, which I guess includes their own 4D experience as they do say "our" Logos for the part in regard to the investment of the bipedal form. So the investment of bipedal form, at the 3D-4D level experience, might actually apply to any and all planet of our solar system.

I've seen a few times that it was said that the veil is not worth the more accelerated evolution it offers. There were multiple reasons associated to that, the hells we can experience and the dynamics it creates among us and other species for examples.

I'd like to read these.  Can you give me a clue as to where I might find them?

They are opinions lost within the endless threads of this forum, who knows they might surface anew again. I've brought up the comparison of the pre-veil and veiled experience multiple times throughout the years.

[Sacred Fool]

I do see a contradiction between these two:

"Q: Logos seemed to be in favor of the bipedal monkey [physical body]" -> "A: The one infinite Creator, my brother, was not responsible for choosing the bipedal monkey, or great ape, over any other species. Rather, it was the social memory complex known as Yahweh who felt that this form would be a very efficient one for exploring the question of polarity."

versus

"Ra: I am Ra. The choice of form is prior to the formation of the archetypical mind. As the Logos creates Its plan for evolution, then the chosen form is invested.

Yes, there is an implied contradiction, made more confusing by the first question asking about the Logos, but the answer being about the "one infinite Creator."

I'm not sure it really matters, however.  I guess I can live with that ambiguity.