12/21/2012: David Wilcock, Harvest, Ra, New Age Gurus. What does it all mean?

[yossarian]

Hello Yossarian, Before you read this I want you to know that it does not come from a place of judgement and if it comes off that way I apologize.

Hello Spaced. Before I answer your questions I'd like for you to answer my questions. Are you a human being?

Have you ever been angry in your life?

What would be a good reason to be angry at someone?

If someone lies to you, does the liar deserve to be called out?

If someone gets rich by telling lies to vulnerable people, is it the fault of the victim?

Now I'll proceed on to your victim-blaming.

2012 entered the public consciousness and became a focal point for thoughts and directed energy. Everyone put all kinds of energies into this event, and what they got out of it is directly proportional to what they put in.

Why should I believe you?

This isn't what the New Age channellings told me. The channellings and the associated gurus said there would be a shift for all of humanity leading us into a world that is 100 times more harmonious.

So what the hell is this metaphysics you're talking about and why should I accept it? Are you even human, because your little theory there has no relation to the human reality that I'm familiar with.

What sort of energies did you put into this idea of December 21st? Did you build this date up in your mind or did you simply acknowledge it and the potential it may or may not have or move on with your life. If you are disappointed that the event did not live up to the hype how can you blame another for your choice to focus on it?

Energies... like gasoline? What kind of energy are you even talking about? Do you call feelings "energy" or something? Why would you use such strange words to talk about feelings or emotions?

If you're asking me what kinds of FEELINGS I had, rather than what kinds of "ENERGIES" I had, I can probably answer. But first please clarify. I assume you have a good reason for using these words and you're not just peddling New Age bullshit, so help me out.

You ask us for our thoughts and then get upset when we share them. Why?

That's precisely what I have been explaining.

1. Victim blaming all the people who were defrauded by the frauds and charlatans.

2. Denying responsibility for promoting the kind of fuzzy thinking and bullshit that allowed the above frauds to victimize their victims.

3. Dodging the uncomfortable discussion. Claiming that no one really believed in 2012 and therefore there is nothing to discuss.

4. Ordering people around. Telling them that they shouldn't feel angry because anger is non-spiritual. Anger is for the spiritually inferior and if you are angry at being victimized you have some growing up to do!

5. Using words like "energy" and "vibration" instead of "feeling" or "emotion." What is the purpose of using such imprecise words that are out of line with conventional language?

6. Saying stuff like "I'm not trying to convince you of anything" while you try to convince people of something, some world view, some perspective on reality.

I could go on. There are many reasons why I'm angry. My main source of anger at this moment is the fact many people here want to tell me that my anger is invalid. They are literally invalidating my feelings and pretending this is compassionate or loving. Wow. This is classic psychological and emotional abuse.

If it is because we do not share the same disappointment you do that is not our fault. You ask us to share of our experience and then call our responses 'New Age Bullshit' and act like we are trying to control your line of thinking. Why?

Shin'Ar directly told me what to do. He even phrased it as a request. Don't pretend that all New Age people aren't always telling everyone else to be spiritual and loving and so on. THEY ARE.

We do not share our wisdom because we want you to accept it as truth, it's because you asked us too and we want to give you the chance to see things our way. This is a service we are doing for you because, and I apologize if I am generalizing here, we honestly want to help heal this feelings of disappointment you are feeling at this time. In the end it's always you who gets to choose what to believe.

How can you speak for everyone who posted in this thread?

You are sharing your perspective. Ok. You think it is service to others to share your New Age beliefs with them in a persuasive way. You think this will heal their disappointment or whatever. Fine.

How can you pretend that this is what EVERYONE is thinking? Is that not the perfect example of New Age bullshit? Thinking you can talk for everyone and that everyone only has the PUREST, MOST SPIRITUAL, MOST HIGH-MINDED INTENTIONS? No one would ever be unconsciously trying to psycho-spiritually dominate others by spinning tales of love and peace and harmony and being-better-than-ness.

No one would ever base their entire career on being more spiritual than everyone else, right?

Cmon. The New Age community is full of frauds and abusers and if you don't want me to point it out, you are COVERING for them!