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    07-08-2013, 10:10 PM
    first of all; this is a touchy subject, so moderation may be required.

    first of all (after the first of all), all things are permitted under Free Will; so there is no judgement one way or the other (regards the topic at hand).

    but let's see what the Ra has to say about death and dying:

    1) disease (deadly disease that is, say cancer, influenza in the old) serves a function of ceasing bodily viability when the time is right. This is usually the case when the life plan has been accomplished, and one can go home, or (more likely the case), that one has ignored the opportunities for poliarization in this lifetime, and the incarnation is ended by the Higher Self (or maybe not the higher self, but the significant self??).

    Quote:76.20 Questioner: What was the form of disease, and why did this exist at beginning third density?

    Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, that which you speak of as disease is a functional portion of the body complex which offers the body complex the opportunity to cease viability. This is a desirable body complex function. The second portion of the answer has to do with second-density other-selves of a microscopic, as you would call it, size which have in some forms long existed and perform their service by aiding the physical body complex in its function of ceasing viability at the appropriate space/time.

    2) if you truly want to die, then your Higher Self will make such possibilities happen for you; no need to take it into your own hands. This was the case with Carla as a teenager, dealing with extreme self-worth issues:

    Quote:63.2 Questioner: Was the original problem with the kidneys some 25 years ago caused by psychic attack?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is only partially correct. There were psychic attack components to the death of this body at that space/time. However, the guiding vibratory complex in this event was the will of the instrument. This instrument desired to leave this plane of existence as it did not feel it could be of service.

    63.3 Questioner: You are saying that the instrument itself then created the kidney problem at that time?

    Ra: I am Ra. The instrument’s desire to leave this density lowered the defenses of an already predisposed weak body complex, and an allergic reaction was so intensified as to cause the complications which distorted the body complex towards unviability.

    The will of the instrument, when it found that there was indeed work to be done in service, was again the guiding factor or complex of vibratory patterns which kept the body complex from surrendering to dissolution of the ties which cause the vitality of life.

    in both cases, you may see the will of the self (the lower self, or incarnational self) having the Determining Say in what goes on. Want to die? then ways will be found. Want to live? then ways will be found.

    that is the true almighty power of Free Will of the incarnated self.

    - -

    So you see, Carla did die as per her wish, but she met the Holy Spirit in the Tunnel of Light (from what I remember of her story) and was given the chance to come back, and give things another shot.

    and aren't we glad that she did?!!! No Carla, means no Ra group (Don, Carla, and Jim), and absolutely no Ra contact.

    so who says that a life is unworthy to continue in operation?

    - -

    plenum
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    The Spiritual Ethics of Suicide - by Plenum - 07-08-2013, 10:10 PM
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