Quote:(06-01-2010, 06:10 PM)Richard Wrote: Who are we to judge the failure (or eventual success) of a cosmic experiment measured in the span of human years? A million years of human experience measured agains a universe whose inception spans billions of years? As far as we know? Because our personal lives are not perfect…or our remembered history isn’t everything we imagined it should be? Therefore the experiment is a failure?
because, we, as entities have the precise duplicate of the logic of this existence, this creation in ourselves.
simply, the 8 level energy center infinity concept, inwards and outwards.
simply, because the galaxy and then universe are entities like you and me, with 8 energy centers each, and 8 within each center and so forth.
therefore, just like how you meditate, and try to open all your chakras in a bright, clear, unmuddied and equal manner, universe has to do the same things.
anything that causes extended blockage of any chakra, is something that needs to be fixed, for that chakra.
this is just one of the approaches. you can approach in numerous ways to conclude the failure of this local plan.
Quote:It’s the philosophical equivalent of 5 yr olds who think they have the way of the world figured out…yet have no concept of money..much less balancing a checkbook or driving a car.
quite wrong.
first, 3rd density entities seeking to open 4d chakras, generally have no business with such information - chakras, centers, creation, evolution and whatnot. they basically live the 3d experiences, and try to come to a conclusion for their orientation, generally without knowing it.
it is generally wanderers' desire to consciously know about stuff like these, and therefore it is highly likely that most of the ones reading these information are wanderers.
if, you check wanderers' composition, you will see that most of them are from 6th density. if you check Ra's statements, most of them in 1980 were from Ra, an entity which was speedily closing down fast to 7th density.
if you think that the heavy 3d existence accelerates spiritual development, it is easily concludeable that there could be quite a few of those from 6th density that are in, or nearing 7th density.
it is also possible that, there were wanderers who came from 7th density start themselves.
if, from this point, you move to the fact that, 7th density existence is the existence that speedily closes the infinity, the octave, to the state of unison with everything which you so unwisely understand as a 'creator' outside yourself, you can easily conclude that an entity near the end of 7th density, as Ra and others put it, is an entity that already learned itself to the degree that it can in this octave, and after a certain point, leaves all the experiences and any kind of identity it had behind, and merges to infinity.
since, it is already said by many that 'you contain the creator', knowing yourself, would mean knowing the 'creator' you speak of.
therefore, it is highly possible that there are 6-7th density entities who already know enough of that 'creator' you speak of (as if it was something outside you), and therefore, there are those who quite easily can conclude the failure of any particular plan.
that is, unless, that plan was intended to TEACH what should NOT be done, and what is extreme, of course.
in both cases, that would directly mean that, what is happening in this solar system are stuff that should NOT be done, lest if you do them things end up like this.
Quote:Quo’ said it best when they said perhaps you (meaning us) should ask the creator….
'ask the creator', whereas you are yourself 'creator' and include the 'creator' inside you, as the very source you speak of says ?
in that case, asking that creator, would mean asking yourself. which is, something you are not doing, according to what you say.
Understanding…or perhaps a better term…feeling that one is a Wanderer or upper density entity stuck on this planet doesn’t necessarily make it so. You or I may just be maladjusted to society in general. We’ll never know who or what we are (or were) until we pass from this lifetime.
Every statement of supposed spiritual knowledge in all these pages is just opinion, supposition and philosophy seasoned with a liberal dose of personal beliefs….and faith.
Actual spiritual fact remains to be seen….and perhaps only truly understood in hindsight since even our supposed 7th density teachers admit to not totally understanding the ways of the creator themselves
Richard