06-04-2010, 12:31 PM
(06-04-2010, 11:54 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I think it depends on the curriculum each particular entity is enrolled in, during his/her time here in 3D Earth. Some are enrolled in Love 101, and their goal is simply to make the choice and graduate to 4D. Wanderers, however, may be simultaneously brushing up on Love and working on a mission to raise the vibration of the planet, while being enrolled in a higher density course of study, such as Wisdom.
The veil exists for a reason. Depending on that particular soul's chosen curriculum, it may or may not be in the best interest of the entity to penetrate the veil. Doing that might even be a distraction for some and get in the way of the work they chose to accomplish.
quite so, however, there is high chance that anyone who is interested in Ra material, or Law of One, or any such particular specific channeling that imparts knowledge and wisdom of this kind, is probably interested in penetrating the veil.
if it didnt resonate, they wouldnt be attracted to these, would they ...
Quote:In any case, even if we do pursue penetration of the veil and get glimpses of the greater reality, can we totally understand the mysteries of the Creator while in a 3D body? Even Ra stated that they have teachers too, and the octaves above them remain a mystery.
and there are even those who come from the next octave and bring light. probably, they have those that come from higher densities in their octave, to bring light to them.
therefore, its probably a neverending process. we should try to understand as much as we can using the tools we have given to us, as best we can.
on another note, the Law of One, as Ra describes us, is itself a VERY high level law. remember that how first the infinity gets potentiated with self awareness and becomes intelligent infinity, and then as a result of this there happens love, and then there happens light.
at this point, there isnt even the concept of creation present. leave aside logoi, creatures, and all the things we talk about.
so therefore, we are able to understand and contemplate this kind of a high level law, and we are talking and analyzing its implications in our current lives, and learning it step by step .... that means, we can also understand and study similar concepts.
Quote:True. So it really just depends on what each soul has chosen to learn in this particular incarnation. Perhaps some Wanderers have indeed already learned Wisdom, and in their wisdom have chosen to veil their 3D selves from the deeper mysteries, in order to be of service during this time of Harvest.
This presupposes that 'learning the ways of wisdom' is part of that soul's agenda.
Perhaps one does. And perhaps others don't.
yes, however it is illogical to come forth into a brainstorming discussion who are intending to do as such, and 'disparticipate' by communicating to the opposite, if one is not intending to do so himself/herself. it becomes more a call to a certain philosophy/religion than contribution to the work, even if the individual doesnt intend to do so.
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: Hmmm...good point! I haven't studied a lot of other religions, so I can't speak from personal knowledge that no other religion has that "I am wretched" element, but I agree with you that these religions sure do have it. And I agree that it was injected into those religions as an STS element. I find it disturbing when I hear people of those religions speak like that on a daily basis. It's so ingrained in them, that any suggestion that they might actually be beautiful, magnificent beings often tends to frighten them. I find this sad.
quite as such. the wretched part is more dominant in generally the early christian/catholic line of those philosophies. however all of them has the 'you are but a subject, you should hear and heed your prophet and do as he says' feature, discouraging the believers from any contemplation for the fear of discovering any contradictions or misconceptions in the religion, and getting second ideas.
Quote:I agree that, in those cases, references to "helpless, stupid, wretched me" may be a holdover from having been entrenched in those religions. But I don't perceive that as having been the case here. My interpretation of the comment "Who are we to plumb the mysteries of the UniVerse" was one of marvel and humility, rather than religious brainwashing.
i think otherwise, since it took the form of 'who are we to talk about it, with our limited minds, and your incapacity' than 'isnt the creation so endless, so beautiful, so mysterious'.
on another sidenote, it escapes me how one can marvel at the nature of existence, by not contemplating and wandering about it with his/her mind.