2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose

[Ali Quadir]

mind is much more than that. mind also the shape giver, the organizer. the mover.

In your definition of mind. But that's okay I'm trying to understand your definition. The shape giver/organizer I would call a mixture of lightbody and astral body. The mover as root cause for all movements is simply the soul. Even physical moves originate there. Not specifically as the impulse designed to move the muscle. But as the cause of the intent.

you are still stuck on the 'information processor' concept that is the approach of the current planetary societal mind to the concept of mind.

No I am not and no it is not. I'm stuck much more on a systems model. Where various systems evolved to answer specific challenges building from the same building block materials. I'm getting the idea that your version of mind is what Ra calls intelligence, not the same as societal mind as you say. But also not the same as my version. I would call intuition an expression of that intelligence too but I would not call it mind.

Again it's just words. I'm trying to build a bridge. I try to wrap my head around what you're saying, you could try to do the same. If I deny something 3 times and you still come up with the same objection you're not exactly trying.

For example, you would call instinct mind? You would call the subconscious mind? But you would not call intuition mind right? That's a more feminine energy right there.

instinct, is a deep knowing that stems more from subconscious. its probably not a singlehanded, isolated concept. but, it is more a mix of two. intuition is also the same. inspiration, now, is a subconscious act.

Answer the question clearly please, is it mind? Also, what is the other one in "A mixture of two"? I want to get your terminology clear and defined so we can really talk about the same subject.

I mentioned instinct, intellect, intuition emotion and sensation. Would you please categorize those as "unity mind" or not "unity mind". If your definition of the word mind is vastly different than mine we can talk for days and get no where. And it's true I came from an occult background. So it's not weird to expect some differences in vocabulary.

Let me remind you once more though because it's important to me that I NEVER EVER said that you should NOT use a system. I simply stated that various of our systems cannot handle certain tasks. If you were to use ONLY that system. As it seemed you were doing. Then you'll get no where... Just like the bird trying to climb a tree. It's just not going to work for him. He also does not need to unless he's an ostrich or something and even then failure is imminent.

you are getting fixated on the perception of mind that this current planetary society has about mind. it is just a subset of mind, and its processes and procedures are just subsets of the mind's grand scheme.

Again.. No I am not... As long as you think so you're clueless about my perception of mind.

So I never suggested only using 25% of capacity as per the example you used. I suggested the opposite, going from 25%, (A lot less actually if you use my limiting definition of mental reasoning) to 100% by using everything you've got... My goal just like yours is to optimize my function. So if it seems I choose to use less of my faculties please assume something was distorted in translation.

mind/body/spirit. as far as what Ra says and quo later explained in regard to usage of slashes in between them, mind and body are parts of the entity as important as the spirit.

that makes mind + body = 50%, spirit = 50% with a blunt calculation.

Very blunt indeed. 50% of what? Of the whole? Of the whole in what regard? Mass? Clearly not. Volume? Clearly not.

If you have two sides of a coin. What percentage of the coin is one side and what is the other? In your body, which is more important, your heart or your brain? It just doesn't work that way.

That makes mind, up to 25% basis of the very discrete existence (existing as entities, the entire reality, creation) itself.

I use the principle of what we can see as a difference in information processing ability between those who use only mind and those who use other mechanisms. My perception of mind, the thinking part of it is only a fragment of our capacity. Subconscious mind is already vastly bigger in it's processing capacity. Intuition blows conscious thought out of the water when it comes to pure information processing and answer finding ability.

And it's not even the strongest thing we've got...

Namaste