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    07-09-2010, 09:06 AM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2010, 10:28 AM by lightning.)
    I find that I agree with Ali on the non-causality of experience. Causality is an illusion that constitutes the fabric of what Ra refers to as the veil. Ra speaks of space/time as being an illusion, and it is because it's related to the dynamic of force. Synchronicity is the primary means for 3rd density to glimpse beyond the veil. An example would be that you think of someone you haven't seen in years, 5 minutes later you find a photo of this person in the bottom of a drawer where you were looking for something else, and then a few minutes later this person calls unexpectedly. These events have no causal relationship between them, yet they are all clearly related. This is glimpsing beyond the 3d veil and reflects the true nature of reality which is that mind or will is the creator. We are all mini-versions of the Creator in that experience comes from the will and what is held in mind. Within 3d, the ego is what must be transcended to contact intelligent infinity. In doing this, the forgetting is finished. "Remembering" is not only about remembering events, etc., it's about claiming our true heritage. Both faith and love serve to dismantle 3d because both of these things require one to step beyond the confines of 3d. In time/space, which lies outside the illusion, there is no causality in the sense that "this makes that happen". I'm not trying to come across as an authority here. Each person's path is different, and what is profound to me might seem meaningless to someone else. However, what has helped me immensely in making progress in penetrating the veil has been to find and dedicate myself to one of the many pathways of spiritual discipline. Ra was right when he said there is resistance at the point of breakthrough, or something like that. In my most humble opinion, the LOO material is wonderful and informative beyone anything else I've ever been exposed to. Nonetheless, it is somewhat short on technique. I know the reason is that Ra doesn't want to violate the "Law of Confusion" and I understand that, but it takes a concerted application of the will and the transcending of a multitude of obstacles to break through the veil. For us on earth, is it possible that this veil was somewhat more intense than was intended? If so, then I suppose it could have come from the logos. If so, then my guess would be that it would be the "Sun" logos rather than the logos of our galaxy. My understanding is that each logos sort of refines or individualizes experience in a way that is slightly unique, and that apparently applies to each sub=logos or star as well. In other words, the milky way logos would somewhat individualize experience for the entire galaxy, but this individualization would also apply to the sub-logoi. That was confusing to me in the material in numerous instances where I didn't know when Ra referred to Logos whether Ra meant the galaxy or the sun. An example of that would be when Ra said it is not known why the logos chose the "second-density apes to invest" with 3d consciousness. Surely that didn't mean that all 3d life in our galaxy evolved from apes, or did it?
    That's my sermon for the day. I love you all.
    PEACE

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    2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 04:09 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 04:41 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 04:52 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by βαθμιαίος - 07-17-2010, 05:34 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 07-17-2010, 09:43 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by βαθμιαίος - 07-17-2010, 11:16 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 07-18-2010, 08:41 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by βαθμιαίος - 07-18-2010, 11:29 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Confused - 02-11-2011, 11:37 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 02-12-2011, 04:52 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Confused - 02-12-2011, 06:32 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 05:07 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 05:17 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by David Junior - 09-20-2011, 02:24 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 05:36 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 05:43 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 05:49 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 06:08 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 06:35 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 06:43 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 06:59 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Cyclops - 05-30-2010, 06:59 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Observer - 12-08-2011, 06:23 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-30-2010, 07:18 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 07:23 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Cyclops - 05-30-2010, 10:05 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Peregrinus - 05-31-2010, 12:38 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-31-2010, 06:56 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Confused - 02-26-2011, 03:01 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Tenet Nosce - 09-10-2011, 04:19 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Tenet Nosce - 09-10-2011, 10:03 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Tenet Nosce - 09-14-2011, 12:57 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-31-2010, 04:43 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by peelstreetguy - 05-31-2010, 11:11 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-31-2010, 01:27 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 05-31-2010, 08:02 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 05-31-2010, 10:49 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-01-2010, 07:16 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by LsavedSmeD - 06-01-2010, 10:43 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-02-2010, 12:33 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-02-2010, 05:35 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-02-2010, 05:50 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 06-02-2010, 06:20 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-01-2010, 06:10 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 06-01-2010, 08:52 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-01-2010, 09:55 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 06-02-2010, 01:55 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by LsavedSmeD - 06-02-2010, 02:30 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-02-2010, 03:44 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by thefool - 06-01-2010, 10:19 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 06-02-2010, 05:13 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-03-2010, 03:30 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-03-2010, 04:31 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-04-2010, 06:21 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by LsavedSmeD - 06-04-2010, 10:40 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-04-2010, 11:23 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-04-2010, 12:45 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-04-2010, 12:57 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-04-2010, 06:26 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-05-2010, 01:59 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-04-2010, 11:54 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-04-2010, 12:31 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-03-2010, 06:07 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-03-2010, 06:30 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by LsavedSmeD - 06-05-2010, 12:18 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-05-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-04-2010, 09:48 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-04-2010, 09:55 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-04-2010, 11:18 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-04-2010, 08:27 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by crystl37 - 06-04-2010, 10:17 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-04-2010, 10:22 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-05-2010, 11:34 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-05-2010, 12:07 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-05-2010, 07:12 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-06-2010, 03:04 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-07-2010, 11:41 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-07-2010, 12:39 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-07-2010, 06:14 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by crystl37 - 06-05-2010, 07:53 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-05-2010, 11:26 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by crystl37 - 06-06-2010, 07:06 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-06-2010, 08:23 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Cyclops - 06-06-2010, 11:58 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by xlsander - 06-07-2010, 05:25 AM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-08-2010, 12:09 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-07-2010, 01:28 PM
    RE: Failure of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-07-2010, 03:30 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-08-2010, 03:29 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-08-2010, 03:07 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-08-2010, 03:30 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-09-2010, 05:34 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-09-2010, 11:03 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-08-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-08-2010, 08:51 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-09-2010, 10:46 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-09-2010, 11:33 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-09-2010, 12:12 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-09-2010, 11:02 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-09-2010, 11:06 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-09-2010, 12:09 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-09-2010, 12:46 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-09-2010, 01:22 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-09-2010, 06:53 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-09-2010, 07:20 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-10-2010, 07:38 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Cyclops - 06-10-2010, 12:33 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Turtle - 06-10-2010, 04:39 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-10-2010, 11:50 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-10-2010, 02:36 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Aaron - 06-10-2010, 02:21 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Truth_and_Love - 06-10-2010, 02:38 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-10-2010, 03:04 PM
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    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-11-2010, 05:13 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-11-2010, 08:42 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-11-2010, 11:22 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Richard - 06-11-2010, 11:40 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-11-2010, 11:56 AM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Ali Quadir - 06-11-2010, 03:13 PM
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    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-11-2010, 08:39 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by Monica - 06-11-2010, 08:59 PM
    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-11-2010, 09:10 PM
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    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 06-11-2010, 09:51 PM
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    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by unity100 - 07-17-2010, 08:19 AM
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    RE: 2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose - by βαθμιαίος - 07-17-2010, 11:38 AM
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