(10-22-2014, 02:33 PM)isis Wrote: Cayce also wrote,
"An incorrect mental attitude produces more poisons and toxins than does eating bad food."
I think it all produces toxins. The toxins just vibrate at a different level.
(10-22-2014, 02:33 PM)isis Wrote: Is all well or isn't it? I think it is, no matter what.
I'm not that much of a light-being. I see that there is a whole lot here that is not well.
The concept in theory is sound, when seen from a very advanced and evolved perspective. Maybe Ra could see it that way, but all the new-agers saying this (I'm not saying that's you), sound like they're spouting empty words. It sounds like denial and sugar-coating over a lake of real perception and experience to me.
(10-22-2014, 02:33 PM)isis Wrote: There is no spoon. There is no meat. There is no matter. Imo, there's only the OIC forever experiencing completion, wholeness, oneness, & perfection.
Great line for a sci-fi movie with lots of truth in it, but not practical.
Ra Wrote:You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material.
This is simplistic, probably because Ra knew they had to talk down to us.
An atom cannot be pinpointed in space and time (the Uncertainty Principal), and is actually fuzzy when observed. So matter is indeed not what we have traditionally labeled it as. But is does have existence and effect. I find it crazy to deny what we perceive, because it's all perception in the end. We create this framework to evolve and exist within. Why deny physicality? It has its existence even if only in our minds.
So, there is meat, even though it may boil down to thought. Pain is a thought. Eating is a thought. The planet is a thought. Sex is a thought. So what? Does that mean we dismiss everything here that we have created (presumably), as though it's all nothing?
Even if we go with the simplistic, all is thought, how does that change the experience we have with it? There is still cause and effect. Is anyone here such an advanced light-being and so beyond this kindergarten school of Earth that they have no experience here but joy and oneness with all of existence? For the rest of us, we are apparently here experiencing much more than love, light, and joy.
No amount of new-age sayings are going to change that.
(10-22-2014, 02:44 PM)Unbound Wrote: My point is that "minimizing" suffering isn't something you have any way to actually keep track of, and so if we are going to frame an idea around the alleviation of suffering then the focus should never be on quantity. I know that wasn't your intention, but I think it's a key point in this "argument" of "more suffering" vs "less suffering".
I think we're getting lost in semantics here. More, less...I'm not looking at quantity. I'm simply looking at this:
I am here as a human. There is an enormous amount of suffering in the world. I don't resonate with suffering. Oftentimes the suffering breaks my heart because I care for beings other than myself. I try to assist in alleviating that suffering where I can. If I see a homeless person on the street, I give him/her cash I keep in my car if I have it. I frankly don't care if they by wine or food with it, that's their choice.
I am well aware that there are many nuances to the concept of alleviating suffering. What I didn't mention in my confession of not doing all I can, is that the pain I would feel "helping" others, would also contribute to the negativity here. It's another reason I don't do certain things.