11-21-2014, 09:13 PM
(11-21-2014, 05:28 AM)XionComrade Wrote:(11-20-2014, 11:27 PM)Unbound Wrote: Sure, but if we can't actually tell who was/is actually negative or not, how can we garner any truth beyond each individual's moralistic speculations? An entity you view as negative may not be viewed as such by another, or vice versa, so how do you talk about "negative individuals" without an agreement on what actually constitutes that in the first place?
It doesn't seem to always be so hard to figure it out when someone is of a very negative nature(And sometimes it is ridiculously obvious), sure not everyone will ever agree, but it would take the fun out of it all if everyone did I suppose. Granted nowadays it is much easier to just work in the shadows and never be known at all historically, negativity is much subtler work it seems, as is possitivity of course.
Aha Things aren't always as they seem and the obvious is not always obvious as what seems obvious to one may be completely the opposite for another. The problem in my eyes is taking particular "life themes" and saying they are either positive or negative, that doesn't make much sense to me. It doesn't seem so obvious to me that those who keep their hands "clean" are always more positive. I believe that there are individuals throughout history with very positive, empowering stories, but I feel nothing but manipulation through them so for me it is certainly not always obvious by observing the actions of an entity what their apparent spiritual disposition is.
Also note, each person has for themselves a collection of thoughts, ideas and traits they consider "negative" so it's hard for me to not just think that in these cases what is identified as negative is what is seen by the self as self-serving, but that isn't the same for everybody so that's a bit of block for me...