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    03-11-2015, 03:46 AM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2015, 09:59 AM by dreamliner.)
    (03-11-2015, 02:33 AM)Minyatur Wrote: An unlucky soul is a needed experience of Infinity to explore manyness. There are also those long before Ra who had not the free will to even polarize themselves in a STS manner. Were these souls more fortunate? It was thought that this manner of creation did not bring further to Infinity and was not repeated. On the other side of the coin, earth might still be a fortunate world in the grand perspective of things.


    Quote:77.17 Questioner: Now, would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, there was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function only of this positive polarization evolving from our original creation of sub-Logos?

    Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true-color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.

    Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.

    Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.

    77.18 Questioner: I guess, under the first distortion, it was the free will of the Logos to choose to evolve without free will. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

    What's interesting with the first distortion, is that there is not a single soul which hasn't experienced what it wanted to experience wether it is fortunate or not.

    Infinity does not need anything; individualized portions of it chooses to explore freely; the nuance in your expression imposes/burdens a kind of "obligation" to souls, which is negative somehow.

    Early logoi had chosen lack-of-free-will-foundations, and yes, those souls were more fortunate in their (those souls') own perspective. However, those early logoi's perspective/evaluation had been such in time that, especially the 3rd and 4th densities of the overall evolution was not efficious, the efficiency was low. Therefore, they chose to extend the free will down to the sub-sub-logoi, in order to overcome the efficiency problem.

    Which means; your expression, "It was thought that this manner of creation did not bring further to Infinity and was not repeated" is another overinterpretation/misinterpretation/misrepresentation, because the concern was efficiency, they could keep going as it was. Basically, the concern for the unlucky soul -who was displaced into negative time/space- is similar to the early logoi's concern.

    Positive path should appreciate the free will only, not the negative path; otherwise, one may weaken/lower their armor -if there is any- and may welcome negative influences.

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    negative wanderers - by dreamliner - 03-08-2015, 09:41 AM
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    RE: negative wanderers - by Minyatur - 03-08-2015, 04:44 PM
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    RE: negative wanderers - by dreamliner - 03-10-2015, 04:37 AM
    RE: negative wanderers - by Minyatur - 03-11-2015, 02:33 AM
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    RE: negative wanderers - by AnthroHeart - 03-08-2015, 07:42 PM
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