08-02-2015, 03:24 PM
I replied to your original post and missed your edits. So I just now read all this.
We did agree to the conditions. But the conditions exist for a reason: to provide a stage upon which 3D entities can experience catalyst and polarize, which is the purpose of 3D.
The fact that we agreed to interact with STS entities doesn't mean that we should behave like them. That is, if we wish to polarize STO.
As I recall, this is true even for many 3D humans, so I don't see that as telling us much.
I agree, and I don't have an answer for that. I intend to ask them why they did that. My speculation is that those of us who are hearing the calls of the suffering entities have taken on the task of bringing it to the attention of those who aren't hearing it (or who are ignoring the calls), as well as reporting back to our elders once we leave this place. I speculate that it's part of the experiment of a veiled planet, and it has gone dreadfully awry.
If my speculation is correct, then continuing to knowingly support this system isn't acceptable.
A 10-year-old child and a newborn baby both have the potential and capability for learning to read. But, the 10-year-old child has made more progress in that direction.
First of all, I just felt a great big wave of compassion for you as I read that!
Are you saying that you are feeling guilt when you eat anything at all? Even plants? Or only meat?
If you feel guilt when you eat anything at all, then may I suggest that it might be stemming from the belief that plants and animals are exactly the same. Perhaps, if you might entertain the notion that this is erroneous, it could free you from this unnecessary guilt.
We must eat something while we're here. There are stories about people becoming breatharians and they even provide a system for doing so: Sungazing. There is some controversy about that so I don't know if the stories are all true or not, but there at least a few documented cases of people who have successfully ceased eating. They get all their nourishment from pure Light, from the Sun.
Plants just condense that Light into nutrients, so eating plants is eating Light vicariously. Notice how the chakra colors are found in plants! Plants are high-vibration food, but not as high as just consuming Light directly!
I find the idea of being a Breatharian intriguing, and I have dabbled a bit with Sungazing. But I have never stuck with it long enough to feel its reported benefits. It is something I will likely try again sometime, but I admit I'm not quite ready for that yet.
In the meantime, since the human body must eat something, then eating plants is closer to consuming light than eating dead animals. The Light from the Sun has long since departed the dead, grey carcass called meat that is bought wrapped in plastic from the grocery store.
There's a difference between healthy remorse and unhealthy guilt. Healthy remorse prods us to examine our choices, learn from them, make amends if appropriate, and hopefully make better choices in the future. Whereas, unhealthy guilt comes from staying stuck in remorse without ever learning from the situation. Healthy remorse responds to catalyst; unhealthy guilt stays stuck without ever utilizing the catalyst.
Are you feeling healthy remorse because you know how to improve your choices but aren't, or is it unhealthy guilt because you don't really know how to make dietary choices without harming any entities at all, and, since you believe that plants and animals are equally harmed, yet you must eat something, this is keeping you stuck?
Unless you feel ready to become a Breatharian, then you simply must eat something. I invite you to consider re-examining your beliefs that eating plants is the same as eating animals. Should you modify that belief, it could free you from this unnecessary guilt.
Or maybe your mission in this life is to become a Breatharian, and then teach all of us!
In any case, staying stuck doesn't seem to be working well, from what you say. The design of this planet is difficult to work with. The only reference to diet from Ra, in regards to diet for humans in general, is this one:
Ra clearly did say that plants foods are acceptable. This supports my case that there is indeed a difference between plants and animals. Else, why didn't Ra give any cautions about eating plants?
Ra did give a caution about eating animal products: to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism
Only you can decide if your consumption of animal products is truly necessary for your individual metabolism. We know that, biologically, the human body doesn't need animal products. The science is quite clear on that. It does, however, require nutrients found in plants. There are many nutrients Not found in animal products, but are found in plants, that are necessary for health. This is a clue!
At the same time, it's clear that humans are in various stages of transitioning away from eating animals and towards the consumption of plants only, with the ultimate goal in the higher densities of consuming only nectar, or only Light. A handful of humans are even doing that now, while in the 3D vehicle.
Ra gave us a little bit of wiggle-room with their statement to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism. Most of the people arguing in favor of eating meat say it's totally ok, so are they eating it out of true necessity while transitioning, or are they eating it because they like the taste of bacon?
In your case, from what you say, it sounds like you aren't eating enough foods in general, and if that's the case, then you probably aren't getting enough calories and nutrients. When the body gets depleted, it will reach for the easiest thing to quickly restore vital energy. Meat is concentrated; hence your body tells you to eat meat. That makes perfect sense to me.
My suggestion would be to consider the possibility that allowing yourself to indulge in more plant foods might be preferable to denying your body's needs, which then results in craving meat. Cravings are usually indications of deficiency, and they often mask the real deficiency. (For example, a craving for soda pop does Not indicate a deficiency in sugar and artificial flavorings!)
So your body might actually be trying to tell you that you're missing some nutrients, and the solution isn't necessarily to give in to the craving, while ignoring the underlying cause of the craving.
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(08-01-2015, 04:49 PM)Aion Wrote: Okay, it doesn't make more sense from my perspective. I don't think either have any form of contract or agreement to be consumed per se however they are involved in the conditions of the vibration of their density. There are conditions that are involved with incarnation that have been agreed to.
We did agree to the conditions. But the conditions exist for a reason: to provide a stage upon which 3D entities can experience catalyst and polarize, which is the purpose of 3D.
The fact that we agreed to interact with STS entities doesn't mean that we should behave like them. That is, if we wish to polarize STO.
(08-01-2015, 04:49 PM)Aion Wrote: However, I would make the point that as I understand it the entity does not choose consciously the elements of its incarnation but rather lives are organized by guardians whom attempt to situate them so they can make the progression from second to third density.
As I recall, this is true even for many 3D humans, so I don't see that as telling us much.
(08-01-2015, 04:49 PM)Aion Wrote: So, it then seems a little strange to me that such guardians would allow and create so many second density lives under conditions of suffering, plant and animal alike.
I agree, and I don't have an answer for that. I intend to ask them why they did that. My speculation is that those of us who are hearing the calls of the suffering entities have taken on the task of bringing it to the attention of those who aren't hearing it (or who are ignoring the calls), as well as reporting back to our elders once we leave this place. I speculate that it's part of the experiment of a veiled planet, and it has gone dreadfully awry.
If my speculation is correct, then continuing to knowingly support this system isn't acceptable.
(08-01-2015, 04:49 PM)Aion Wrote: I see plants and animals as equal, I see both as having potential and capability for higher being
A 10-year-old child and a newborn baby both have the potential and capability for learning to read. But, the 10-year-old child has made more progress in that direction.
(08-01-2015, 04:49 PM)Aion Wrote: I do not view my fellow selves as food, the food is the energy. This has been an increasing issue for me lately and it is worrying my girlfriend because I am having a hard time eating. I have no appetites. However when I do crave it is almost always for meats, salts, proteins (I don't feel at all satisfied by just nuts) and a huge wave of guilt because I had somehow built it in to my philosophy that that was fundamentally evil. I am realizing it is functional.
I have a lot of issues with vital energy for the last bit of time as I have seemingly attempted to 'dehumanise' myself to be more accepted in the eyes of apparent compassion. I'm beginning to see however that I've been having an enormous repression within myself because of these rules and expectations I have had for myself that I, and this is absolutely key to my point, do NOT actually believe in in my heart.
I realized that I have been so heavily swayed by others' justifications that I have constantly been trying to suppress what I actually feel is true and natural.
First of all, I just felt a great big wave of compassion for you as I read that!
Are you saying that you are feeling guilt when you eat anything at all? Even plants? Or only meat?
If you feel guilt when you eat anything at all, then may I suggest that it might be stemming from the belief that plants and animals are exactly the same. Perhaps, if you might entertain the notion that this is erroneous, it could free you from this unnecessary guilt.
We must eat something while we're here. There are stories about people becoming breatharians and they even provide a system for doing so: Sungazing. There is some controversy about that so I don't know if the stories are all true or not, but there at least a few documented cases of people who have successfully ceased eating. They get all their nourishment from pure Light, from the Sun.
Plants just condense that Light into nutrients, so eating plants is eating Light vicariously. Notice how the chakra colors are found in plants! Plants are high-vibration food, but not as high as just consuming Light directly!
I find the idea of being a Breatharian intriguing, and I have dabbled a bit with Sungazing. But I have never stuck with it long enough to feel its reported benefits. It is something I will likely try again sometime, but I admit I'm not quite ready for that yet.
In the meantime, since the human body must eat something, then eating plants is closer to consuming light than eating dead animals. The Light from the Sun has long since departed the dead, grey carcass called meat that is bought wrapped in plastic from the grocery store.
There's a difference between healthy remorse and unhealthy guilt. Healthy remorse prods us to examine our choices, learn from them, make amends if appropriate, and hopefully make better choices in the future. Whereas, unhealthy guilt comes from staying stuck in remorse without ever learning from the situation. Healthy remorse responds to catalyst; unhealthy guilt stays stuck without ever utilizing the catalyst.
Are you feeling healthy remorse because you know how to improve your choices but aren't, or is it unhealthy guilt because you don't really know how to make dietary choices without harming any entities at all, and, since you believe that plants and animals are equally harmed, yet you must eat something, this is keeping you stuck?
Unless you feel ready to become a Breatharian, then you simply must eat something. I invite you to consider re-examining your beliefs that eating plants is the same as eating animals. Should you modify that belief, it could free you from this unnecessary guilt.
Or maybe your mission in this life is to become a Breatharian, and then teach all of us!
In any case, staying stuck doesn't seem to be working well, from what you say. The design of this planet is difficult to work with. The only reference to diet from Ra, in regards to diet for humans in general, is this one:
Quote:40.14 Questioner: In dietary matters, what would be the foods that one would include and what would be the foods that one would exclude in a general way for the most or the greatest care of one’s bodily complex?
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we underline and emphasize that this information is not to be understood literally but as a link or psychological nudge for the body and the mind and spirit. Thus it is the care and respect for the self that is the true thing of importance. In this light we may iterate the basic information given for this instrument’s diet. The vegetables, the fruits, the grains, and to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism, the animal products. These are those substances showing respect for the self. In addition, though this has not been mentioned, for this instrument is not in need of purification, those entities in need of purging the self of a poison thought-form or emotion complex do well to take care in following a program of careful fasting until the destructive thought-form has been purged analogously with the by-products of ridding the physical vehicle of excess material. Again you see the value not to the body complex but used as a link for the mind and spirit. Thus self reveals self to self.
Ra clearly did say that plants foods are acceptable. This supports my case that there is indeed a difference between plants and animals. Else, why didn't Ra give any cautions about eating plants?
Ra did give a caution about eating animal products: to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism
Only you can decide if your consumption of animal products is truly necessary for your individual metabolism. We know that, biologically, the human body doesn't need animal products. The science is quite clear on that. It does, however, require nutrients found in plants. There are many nutrients Not found in animal products, but are found in plants, that are necessary for health. This is a clue!
At the same time, it's clear that humans are in various stages of transitioning away from eating animals and towards the consumption of plants only, with the ultimate goal in the higher densities of consuming only nectar, or only Light. A handful of humans are even doing that now, while in the 3D vehicle.
Ra gave us a little bit of wiggle-room with their statement to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism. Most of the people arguing in favor of eating meat say it's totally ok, so are they eating it out of true necessity while transitioning, or are they eating it because they like the taste of bacon?
In your case, from what you say, it sounds like you aren't eating enough foods in general, and if that's the case, then you probably aren't getting enough calories and nutrients. When the body gets depleted, it will reach for the easiest thing to quickly restore vital energy. Meat is concentrated; hence your body tells you to eat meat. That makes perfect sense to me.
My suggestion would be to consider the possibility that allowing yourself to indulge in more plant foods might be preferable to denying your body's needs, which then results in craving meat. Cravings are usually indications of deficiency, and they often mask the real deficiency. (For example, a craving for soda pop does Not indicate a deficiency in sugar and artificial flavorings!)
So your body might actually be trying to tell you that you're missing some nutrients, and the solution isn't necessarily to give in to the craving, while ignoring the underlying cause of the craving.
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