(08-02-2015, 03:34 PM)Monica Wrote:(08-02-2015, 02:55 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: I have very huge serious doubts that me going vegan would save the life of a single animal.
It wouldn't. But, collectively, the more people who go vegan, the more the market IS affected. It's already happening.
Meat Consumption Plummeting
Quote:But that’s changing, and considering the fairly steady climb in meat consumption over the last half-century, you might say the numbers are plummeting. The department of agriculture projects that our meat and poultry consumption will fall again this year, to about 12.2 percent less in 2012 than it was in 2007. Beef consumption has been in decline for about 20 years; the drop in chicken is even more dramatic, over the last five years or so; pork also has been steadily slipping for about five years.
Simple supply-and-demand dictates that the more the market declines, the fewer animals will be killed to meet the demand. Of course, the population is also increasing, so the net result is that more animals are still being killed. But per capita, meat consumption is way less.
So you do agree that the whole point is actively trying to make it something collective? Individual consumption having no actual power on the balance itself if one doesn't wish to partake to this group work.
(08-02-2015, 03:34 PM)Monica Wrote:(08-02-2015, 02:55 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: With that said, my point is that going vegan or not won't matter unless your goal is to be on a crusade to convert others, which would definitely not be my case even as a vegan.
The goal isn't to convert anyone to anything. The goal is to answer the call of the 2D entities.
Well you hear these calls and cannot hear others, just like others will hear some you cannot hear while not hearing these ones.
(08-02-2015, 03:34 PM)Monica Wrote:(08-02-2015, 02:55 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: So there's trauma and negative energies within the meat? Fine i'll take it upon myself and transmute it along with the rest of my inner darkness
That will serve you, but it won't serve the animal.
It's not necessarily serving me, it actually adds up very small amounts to the work I have to do on myself, slowing it down.
Likewise, does not eating the animal serve him or serve yourself? (the animal being already killed of course) In my animal consumption I do believe I am dealing with the 1D foodstuff and not 2D animal whose soul already is elsewhere.
(08-02-2015, 03:34 PM)Monica Wrote:(08-02-2015, 02:55 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: and take what has already been sacrified with grattitude and compassion for the path that was taken by the said animal.
The animals didn't sacrifice themselves. They are being killed against their will. That isn't a sacrifice because it wasn't done willingly.
Ultimately I do believe each and every experience is chosen as building blocks to create what we are to become, and that's quite a lot of them throughout each densities. The freewill infringer being a tool/catalyst created by the victim to pursue it's path. Well we spoke of this quite a lot already, the "sad" notion where you've always only been what you were needed to be and where you were needed to be since your very origination. Moving in awareness through the strings of time, space and fate.
I did call it path because I do associate my own with this kind of path and I do not think what comes out of it is worthless. You are of course free to disagree.
(08-02-2015, 03:34 PM)Monica Wrote:(08-02-2015, 02:55 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote: Honnestly if this planet would turn vegan overnight, I wouldn't mind it. I just think it's not the only aspect that needs focus to be worked on.
Of course it's Not the only issue that needs to be worked on. But it is a very big issue, one of the biggest issues that affects us all.
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I do think it is more of a manifestation of a more complex and less physical issue, this being one of the apparent physical manifestations of it.
I wouldn't have chosen the earth to incarnate because of it's meat eating, it's just already there whether I eat meat or not.